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Lyskar
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Posted on 10-22-08 10:10:44 PM Link | Quote

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This one seems to be more effective.

The Test.

My score:
Moral Order: -4.5
Moral Rules: 2

System: Socialism
Ideology: Social Democratism
Party: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter
04' Election: David Cobb
08' Election: Dennis Kucinich

Of the 493,343 respondents (6,253 on Facebook):
5% are close to me.
63% are more conservative.
6% are more liberal.
7% are more socialist.
13% are more authoritarian.


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Posted on 10-22-08 11:30:14 PM (last edited by FelineMotorVehicle at 10-22-08 08:31 PM) Link | Quote

No, I wouldn't have voted for any of the presidents that it said I would've voted for. My party, favorite president, and system are diffrent.

Although slightly incorrect, here are my results...

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Your scored -2 on Moral Order and -1 on Moral Rules.


The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):
System: Liberalism
Ideology: Capital Democratism
Party: Democratic Party
Presidents: John F Kennedy
04' Election: John Kerry
08' Election: Barrack Obama

13% are close to you.
27% are more conservative.
7% are more liberal.
24% are more socialist.
18% are more authoritarian.

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Posted on 10-22-08 11:38:57 PM Link | Quote
WTF? This isn't right....

YOUR SCORE

Your scored -3.5 on Moral Order and -5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

1. System: Liberalism
2. Ideology: Capital Democratism, Progressive NeoLiberalism
3. Party: Democratic Party, Libertarian Party
4. Presidents: Bill Clinton
5. 04' Election: Michael Badnarik
6. 08' Election: Ron Paul



Of the 493,477 respondents (6,259 on Facebook):

1. 1% are close to you.
2. 13% are more conservative.
3. 2% are more liberal.
4. 21% are more socialist.
5. 59% are more authoritarian.

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Posted on 10-22-08 11:40:45 PM Link | Quote

The questions are all liberal biased in some way or based off of liberal views. 'Twas funny to see Hiryuu come out a Neoliberal. XD

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Posted on 10-22-08 11:45:21 PM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Metal_Man88
This one seems to be more effective.


Originally posted by Anya
WTF? This isn't right....


Originally posted by Tanks
The questions are all liberal biased in some way or based off of liberal views. '


Myth busted.

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Posted on 10-22-08 11:49:17 PM (last edited by Tanks at 10-22-08 08:49 PM) Link | Quote

Well if you want me to get technical, they all seemed loaded in some way. Like the God question which only allowed for an answer of "A God who exists and steers us through life" for any practicing theist of any faith. That already is suggesting they believe in "fate." I honestly do believe this one did a bit of a better job than the last one though. The leave it blank option was a plus in my book.

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Posted on 10-23-08 04:13:11 AM Link | Quote
That thing misses some questions IMO. Like what you think about history and politics. :/

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Your scored -2.5 on Moral Order and 1.5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

1. System: Socialism
2. Ideology: Social Democratism
3. Party: No match.
4. Presidents: Jimmy Carter
5. 04' Election: John Kerry, David Cobb
6. 08' Election: Barrack Obama



Of the 493,561 respondents (6,261 on Facebook):

1. 7% are close to you.
2. 53% are more conservative.
3. 15% are more liberal.
4. 16% are more socialist.
5. 14% are more authoritarian.

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Posted on 10-23-08 06:25:55 AM Link | Quote

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Metal_Man88
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I guess, to clarify my position, it's got a better system for choosing things... if it only had more questions and more answers for those further to the right.

My grief with the other one was that it had no real clue what to do with my results; this one gave a specific answer. Then again, it said my results were the most typical on the test, so obviously it finds them easy to evaluate.

Note to self: Just because it works for me, doesn't mean it works for anyone else. XP

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Posted on 10-23-08 06:48:19 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tanks
Well if you want me to get technical, they all seemed loaded in some way. Like the God question which only allowed for an answer of "A God who exists and steers us through life" for any practicing theist of any faith. That already is suggesting they believe in "fate." I honestly do believe this one did a bit of a better job than the last one though. The leave it blank option was a plus in my book.

The choices, since you should include them all instead of cherry picking whichever one conforms to your views:

1. About God (whatever 'God' means for you.).
- God exists and drives our destinies. ("God (as you define it) highly influences our lives and destinies.")
- God may exist and could influence our destinies.
- God does not exist.
- Religion should not exist.
- None of the above

For those answers, they are: strong-religion, weak religion, religion neutral, anti-religion, and, of course, the nonanswer.

I take "Drives our destiny" and "influence" as more of the 'afterlife reward' in most religions; may it be x virgins, eternal life, eternal happiness, getting to hug God, whatever. If I give you $5000 for mowing my lawn, you're probably going to mow it. Welcome to influence.

Further, considering that religion is usually attached to conservitism, I'm, uh, not exactly sure how this is "loaded Liberalism", but okay. There are options there for people of most religious views, and I can't find any inherant bias in it.



For what it's worth, I got somewhere around -1,-1. The test could be a little more exaustive, though. 16 questions isn't a whole lot.

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Posted on 10-23-08 09:22:27 AM Link | Quote

It's simply the wording really. You can tell it was made by one who most likely has liberal beliefs. I would honestly find trouble answering most of these questions if I were a true republican since I'd have to guess the outcome of the question rather than simply taking it for its face value which a democrat could easily do here since the answers are worded in his favor. I'd like to see an actual compass built by both sides for once. It'd probably be a lot easier to take.

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Posted on 10-23-08 10:59:39 AM Link | Quote
You scored -4 on Moral Order and 1 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

1. System: Socialism
2. Ideology: Social Democratism
3. Party: Democratic Party
4. Presidents: Jimmy Carter
5. 04' Election: Ralph Nader
6. 08' Election: Barack Obama



Of the 493,619 respondents (6,262 on Facebook):

1. 8% are close to you.
2. 54% are more conservative.
3. 5% are more liberal.
4. 10% are more socialist.
5. 18% are more authoritarian.

Sounds about right.

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Posted on 10-23-08 12:02:56 PM Link | Quote
SUKASA'S SCORE
Your scored -3 on Moral Order and 2.5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):
System: Socialism
Ideology: Social Democratism
Party: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter
04' Election: David Cobb
08' Election: Barrack Obama


Of the 493,637 respondents (6,262 on Facebook):
8% are close to you.
61% are more conservative.
14% are more liberal.
9% are more socialist.
8% are more authoritarian.

No surprises there.

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Posted on 10-23-08 03:26:20 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tanks
It's simply the wording really. You can tell it was made by one who most likely has liberal beliefs. I would honestly find trouble answering most of these questions if I were a true republican since I'd have to guess the outcome of the question rather than simply taking it for its face value which a democrat could easily do here since the answers are worded in his favor. I'd like to see an actual compass built by both sides for once. It'd probably be a lot easier to take.

I'm extremely sorry, sir, but I believe that the above post was composed during an experiment involving tinfoil hats on conspiracy theorists.


In other words, I'm still not seeing this "OMG LIBURAL BIAZ", nor any sort of substance as to why you magically think it's "easy to answer".

You say it's "simply the wording", yet I've already gone though and pointed out how you're full of shit on that subject, so you're not accomplishing anything here.

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Posted on 10-23-08 08:07:33 PM Link | Quote
PRINCE KASSAD'S SCORE

Your scored -1.5 on Moral Order and -2 on Moral Rules.


The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):
System: Liberalism
Ideology: Capital Democratism
Party: Democratic Party
Presidents: John F Kennedy
04' Election: John Kerry
08' Election: Barrack Obama



Of the 493,998 respondents (6,275 on Facebook):
9% are close to you.
21% are more conservative.
8% are more liberal.
35% are more socialist.
22% are more authoritarian.


Sounds about right to me.

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Posted on 10-23-08 08:45:32 PM Link | Quote
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Posted on 10-23-08 09:13:40 PM (last edited by Fate Testarossa at 10-23-08 06:14 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by XkeeperOut
...You say it's "simply the wording", yet I've already gone though and pointed out how you're full of shit on that subject, so you're not accomplishing anything here.


I went over this in a chat the other night if you want the logs, X. The poll IS loaded...and can be interpreted in a lot of ways or are dead ended in certain questions to not having a selection to agree with. Some of them could make you think you're a democrat or at the same time make you look like one for a dictatorship (Hitler) if you interpreted it as such regardless of whatever the 'hints' had you believe in their OWN interpretation.

Anyways, I got near dead center, 1 point up on the Y (moral rules), 0 points X (moral order)...they said I was a Socialist/Authoritarianist. Doubt it...but like I said I'm generally more towards the center on most of these things.

I'll just call myself a people- or center-ist. The polls like this are laff rigs anyways to make people that aren't already decided think that maybe they should vote a certain way.

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Posted on 10-23-08 09:16:42 PM Link | Quote
Regardless of how biased or unbiased it is, my results are:

Your scored -3.5 on Moral Order and 1.5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

1. System: Socialism
2. Ideology: Social Democratism
3. Party: No match.
4. Presidents: Jimmy Carter
5. 04' Election: David Cobb
6. 08' Election: Barrack Obama

Of the 494,049 respondents (6,276 on Facebook):

1. 5% are close to you.
2. 59% are more conservative.
3. 9% are more liberal.
4. 13% are more socialist.
5. 17% are more authoritarian.

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Posted on 10-24-08 01:22:33 AM Link | Quote
Your scored -5 on Moral Order and 2.5 on Moral Rules.


The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):
System: Socialism
Ideology: Social Democratism, Activism
Party: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter
04' Election: David Cobb
08' Election: Dennis Kucinich



Of the 494,141 respondents (6,282 on Facebook):
6% are close to you.
72% are more conservative.
6% are more liberal.
4% are more socialist.
13% are more authoritarian.

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Posted on 10-24-08 02:13:06 AM Link | Quote
Okay, so the x-axis is "how bad are people, fundamentally?" and the y-axis is "how much better are collective endeavors than individual ones?"

Right?

Anyway, I got -5,0. Which pegs me alright. Beats me how this is supposed to correspond to a political leaning.

I did some science and the more you think God matters, the more you think people are fundamentally bad? Sounds fishy.

And now I feel bad, because I did some science and it probably logged me down as multiple nonexistent people while I was checking how it works.
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Posted on 10-24-08 02:17:08 AM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Miasmir
Okay, so the x-axis is "how bad are people, fundamentally?" and the y-axis is "how much better are collective endeavors than individual ones?"

Right?

Anyway, I got -5,0. Which pegs me alright. Beats me how this is supposed to correspond to a political leaning.

I did some science and the more you think God matters, the more you think people are fundamentally bad? Sounds fishy.

And now I feel bad, because I did some science and it probably logged me down as multiple nonexistent people while I was checking how it works.


Don't think about this too much. It's most likely inaccurate.

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