Jul -- General Chat: Presidential Debate III

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Posted on 10-15-08 07:56:04 PM

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If I don't forget about it(Like I did on the second debate...).

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Posted on 10-15-08 08:37:23 PM

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I'll no doubt be seeing it live over CNN via the web once again.

I would just wonder, regardless of the outcome, how much this will actually change.

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Posted on 10-15-08 08:38:23 PM

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If this says anything.

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Posted on 10-15-08 08:41:34 PM

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And Obama's been trending downward in polls depending on ones you look at, as well.

Most of the media is trying to focus on the fact that at least one of the 'red states' is dipping towards Obama now (forget which).

Once again, it depends on where you're at...but I know the democratic party, Michelle Obama at least in a speech, are pushing for your early votes.

Probably so they don't fsck it up in the last three weeks. If the polls are really that true, which I can't fathom as completely true given all the ACORN fraud and bullshit like that as of late that's being investigated by at least 15 states, then all Obama needs to do is play defense then and drag across the finish line when he could've sealed the deal numerous times now and have run away with it.

It's going to end up close no matter how you look at it...and we'll likely get another RECOUNT like '04 with the way things are going.

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Posted on 10-15-08 08:49:43 PM (last edited by Xkeeper at 10-15-08 05:50 PM)

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I'm not sure where you're getting that "trending" thing (Numbers: Today (Yesterday)):

                 Obama      McCain    MoE +/-   RV/LV 

Research 2000:  52 (52)    41 (41)    3         LV 

Reuters/Zogby:  48 (49)    44 (43)    2.8       LV 

Battleground:   51 (53)    43 (40)    3.5       LV   

Rasmussen:      50 (50)    45 (45)    2         LV 

Diageo/Hotline: 49 (48)    41 (42)    3.4       LV 

Gallup:         50 (51)    43 (42)    2         RV

As far as I can tell, most of them are relatively stable, and Obama's still up a great deal.

Besides, you should know by now that nothing in politics is ever stable.

(Of these six, Obama is down in 3, up in 1; McCain is down in 1 and up in 3.)

More than likely just statistical jitter. It's been like this for the past week or so.

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Posted on 10-15-08 09:12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Xkeeper
I'm not sure where you're getting that "trending" thing...

Polls over days time.

Obama was up farther than he is now...

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Posted on 10-15-08 11:15:50 PM (last edited by Xkeeper at 10-15-08 10:22 PM)

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I'll be watching this for sure. Mostly to redeem myself for not watching the VP debate (although now I'm not so sure I missed out on very much.)

edit:
JOE THE PLUMBER

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Posted on 10-16-08 01:22:14 AM

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McCain started out bringing up some decent points, but got trashed on the Palin Rally + Ayers segments.

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Posted on 10-16-08 01:23:31 AM

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I loved it when McCain kept talking about how Obama was going to fine Joe the fucking plumber, then Obama basically kicked him in the nuts when he said zero.

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Posted on 10-16-08 01:25:52 AM

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Ok comon... How long until we start making a Joe the Plumber SMB hack?

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Posted on 10-16-08 01:33:26 AM

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The wave of good jobs from McCain to Obama at the end... Seemed like he was mocking him a little bit.

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Posted on 10-16-08 01:49:42 AM

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Joe the fucking plumber.

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Posted on 10-16-08 01:52:42 AM

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Originally posted by "some IRC channel"
[21:01:05] <Ninetales> Something I see, kinda, in these debates: Obama outlines his points/plans right away and addresses his opposition after, while McCain puts up his opposition first and then points out how he's not going to follow them, followed lastly by his points/plans
[21:03:18] <Ninetales> Am I just getting the wrong impression from the two, or is this how they're formulating their responses to these questions?

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Posted on 10-16-08 01:56:06 AM

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Also, Joe the Plumber.

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Posted on 10-16-08 02:20:25 AM

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I missed that part of the debate, so I have no idea what's going on with Joe. I heard them mention Joe the Plumber in the post-debate.

Heh, the Joe we know on Jul will just LOVE this.

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Posted on 10-16-08 06:07:09 AM

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Yeesh. Canada's election yesterday had way less drama than this.

And at least we have a multi-party system!

(Well, America does too, but... yeah... only two actual parties.)

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Posted on 10-16-08 06:20:47 AM

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Originally posted by Yukito
I missed that part of the debate, so I have no idea what's going on with Joe. I heard them mention Joe the Plumber in the post-debate.

Heh, the Joe we know on Jul will just LOVE this.

Not nearly as much as this guy will.

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Posted on 10-16-08 09:03:29 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
Yeesh. Canada's election yesterday had way less drama than this. And at least we have a multi-party system!

(Well, America does too, but... yeah... only two actual parties.)

Technically we have like 4... Libertarians and some other random group...

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Posted on 10-16-08 12:23:42 PM (last edited by Yukito at 10-16-08 09:25 AM)

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Ralph Nader is running again.
He was invisible to me until like a week ago.

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