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Posted on 03-07-08 02:11:30 AM Link | Quote
Well, I'm trying to get into doing more web design stuff. So far I've not been paid for any work I've done, but it's a start....?

I've created a very basic "about me" / "portfolio" web site.

Taryn Hicks: Digital Design and Illustration

The page does some slightly strange things in Internet Exploder, but is okay. The text is intentionally minimal and simple, as is content in general.

I intend to include a web form for contact information later.

Thoughts? Advice?

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Posted on 03-07-08 03:28:28 AM Link | Quote
Looks pretty good here (Opera 9.26/win32)

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Posted on 03-07-08 03:36:04 AM Link | Quote
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Posted on 03-07-08 04:29:52 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Shadic
Having support for Widescreen could always been nice..


Trying to stretch small, targeted statements across large spaces horizontally tends to dilute any impact it has.

I have deliberately chosen to keep my content concise and to the point, but without making it look like I have nothing to say. I'm choosing what I say carefully and I want it to make an impact.

At this width I can also optimise the line-length for readability as per general typography recommendations.

P.S. It was actually designed on a widescreen monitor.

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Posted on 03-07-08 03:02:27 PM (last edited by Tina at 03-07-08 12:03 PM) Link | Quote
The bright-on-bright colorscheme is uncomfortable to read. The yellow links are very distracting, as well, so it's hard to focus on the text.

The background gradient also looks a bit rough.

Overall, kind of neat, but the text problems are kind of bleh.

(Also somehow I get that feeling this might actually be a bit neat if it cycles though 3 color schemes per day or something)

Edit: Also, about 60-70% of my screen is basically unused, which is kind of annoying.

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Posted on 03-07-08 06:53:44 PM Link | Quote
I think it's great. I've been making myself one of these lately, and, well, I'm considering going back and starting again from scratch in Photoshop

Don't listen to Grumpy, I think the colours are great and it really sells you well. I especially love the border and the fade to the bottom of the screen. It's not too narrow, either - the content is presented well, and if it was any wider you'd seriously sacrifice readability due to wide paragraphs. I'd argue that websites shouldn't be designed to extend beyond 1280 pixels wide, so using the max-width and min-width properties in CSS I design sites to start stretching at 800 pixels wide, and stop stretching at 1280 pixels.

It's a really complete, very accomplished website that sums you up really well
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Posted on 03-07-08 10:31:22 PM Link | Quote

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Very nice site.

But I'd advise you to begin charging for the work you do in the future; Offering work for free can make you, the developer, look desperate for work and the employer may even lack confidence in your ability.
Luckily, you have plenty of it. Use it to your advantage.

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Posted on 03-08-08 01:36:37 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by sk26
Very nice site.

But I'd advise you to begin charging for the work you do in the future; Offering work for free can make you, the developer, look desperate for work and the employer may even lack confidence in your ability.
Luckily, you have plenty of it. Use it to your advantage.


Yes, ordinarily I would charge for my work -- however as some of my clients right now have been Schools, and I work on the School Help Desk, this has posed an Ethical Dilemma, a conflict of interest. I cannot use my current full-time employment position to my advantage in that way, so those clients from Schools have not been charged. I have used their requests though as experience and portfolio material.

The other website I won't charge for is for the Surf Life Saving Club. But that's cause I them. Sooo much. I will ask that my work is considered "sponsorship" though.

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Posted on 03-08-08 01:59:44 AM (last edited by Xkeeper at 03-07-08 11:10 PM) Link | Quote
Thoughts? Advice?

Originally posted by Kas
Don't listen to Grumpy [...]

I appreciate the compliment. I guess I shouldn't bother writing anything about anything if it's not going to be "Ooh, this is perfect and I love it", eh?

But I'm being serious and trying to give opinions.

The top of the "main gradient" is #79b6d3 (or close), the text is #ffffff.
I ran it though a color contrast checking application, and:

Brightness Difference (should be >=125): 87.9
Color difference (should be >=500): 251
Compliant: No

Even the bottom of the gradient isn't much better:
Brightness Difference (should be >=125): 107
Color difference (should be >=500): 303
Compliant: No


I'm not trying to be an asshole; I'm just saying this color scheme hurts my eyes, not because they're horrible colors, but because there simply isn't enough contrast.

This is one of Vincent's biggest pet peeves and it's one of mine, too.




(Ed.note: My layout doesn't fare so well either, but it's bright on dark, and it isn't being used as a "look, I'm a web designer, please give me work" advertisement)

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Posted on 03-08-08 09:22:08 AM (last edited by sk26 at 03-08-08 06:39 AM) Link | Quote

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Originally posted by Tarale
Originally posted by sk26
Very nice site.

But I'd advise you to begin charging for the work you do in the future; Offering work for free can make you, the developer, look desperate for work and the employer may even lack confidence in your ability.
Luckily, you have plenty of it. Use it to your advantage.


Yes, ordinarily I would charge for my work -- however as some of my clients right now have been Schools, and I work on the School Help Desk, this has posed an Ethical Dilemma, a conflict of interest. I cannot use my current full-time employment position to my advantage in that way, so those clients from Schools have not been charged. I have used their requests though as experience and portfolio material.

The other website I won't charge for is for the Surf Life Saving Club. But that's cause I them. Sooo much. I will ask that my work is considered "sponsorship" though.

Absolutely. Charging is really only important if your dealing with clients who you've never met. Doing it as a favour for people/groups/organisations you know quite well is fine.

Also, Xk has some valid suggestions, but they're not really nessessary. If your aim is to have a simple website to show your work, you've done it. Perfection is not nessessary (but it wouldn't hurt).

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Posted on 03-08-08 10:56:40 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper

I appreciate the compliment. I guess I shouldn't bother writing anything about anything if it's not going to be "Ooh, this is perfect and I love it", eh?

But I'm being serious and trying to give opinions.

The top of the "main gradient" is #79b6d3 (or close), the text is #ffffff.
I ran it though a color contrast checking application, and:

Brightness Difference (should be >=125): 87.9
Color difference (should be >=500): 251
Compliant: No

Even the bottom of the gradient isn't much better:
Brightness Difference (should be >=125): 107
Color difference (should be >=500): 303
Compliant: No

I'm not trying to be an asshole; I'm just saying this color scheme hurts my eyes, not because they're horrible colors, but because there simply isn't enough contrast.

This is one of Vincent's biggest pet peeves and it's one of mine, too.

(Ed.note: My layout doesn't fare so well either, but it's bright on dark, and it isn't being used as a "look, I'm a web designer, please give me work" advertisement)



Hey, you were being really nitpicky . You went into a lot of detail about the things you don't like, but didn't actually say what you liked about it. If it's kind of neat, say why. Besides, the contrast is alright, not optimum, but the colours are well considered and nicely indicate where the reader's attention should be focused. I get more bitchy about "unused" screen space, anyway. I mean, unused by what? There's not enough content there to fill it anyway ;
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Posted on 03-08-08 05:41:32 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kas
Hey, you were being really nitpicky . You went into a lot of detail about the things you don't like, but didn't actually say what you liked about it.

That's everybody else's job.

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Posted on 03-08-08 06:38:51 PM Link | Quote
See what I mean? Grumpy
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Posted on 03-10-08 12:16:56 AM Link | Quote
FYI, I still maintain that a good critique is one that provides both positive and negative feedback, Xkeeper.

As for the contrast thing... maybe. The thing is I want it to be bright and vibrant. I could try darkening it a little more (can't do it today though, about to go to Surf Lifesaving Patrol) but I don't want to kill the bright sunny day blue.

And if the links are drawing your eye, then I've succeeded in my intention there. Your "criticism" just shows me I did what I wanted. The contrast was deliberate there -- to draw the eye to the navigation area.

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Posted on 03-10-08 12:18:17 AM Link | Quote
I guess, but my problem is that it's distracting. It gets my attention, but it doesn't leave me alone.

I think it should be enough to stand out, but not so radically different as to be hard to ignore. (Otherwise, I'd make all my important posts about downtime in giant flashing point-99 font)

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Posted on 03-10-08 12:22:19 AM Link | Quote
You already do that

I'll have to look at the colour stuff later, perhaps when I'm home again. Right now I'm at Mum's, preparing to go to Patrol in a bit.

I find yellow to be a bloody difficult colour to work with in general, but it is the Complimentary Colour to blue. Using a Complimentary Colour IS supposed to draw the eye, as well as create tension and vibrancy.

I tried some Split Complimentary combinations which I didn't like as much at all. I also tried a Triad, and that didn't work at all.

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line 457 column 2144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 457 column 2249 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 465 column 21 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 465 column 62 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 465 column 111 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 465 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 476 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 492 column 1721 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 492 column 1721 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 492 column 1792 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 492 column 1792 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 493 column 2122 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 493 column 2122 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 495 column 2380 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 495 column 2380 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 503 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 514 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 522 column 182 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 522 column 182 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 545 column 1462 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 545 column 1462 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 545 column 1939 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 545 column 1939 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 564 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 571 column 268 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 571 column 676 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 571 column 676 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 572 column 897 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 572 column 897 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 572 column 993 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 572 column 1194 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 580 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 580 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 591 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 598 column 104 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 598 column 104 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 606 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 606 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 606 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 606 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 617 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 624 column 1125 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 624 column 1125 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 636 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 636 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 636 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 636 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 637 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 647 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 654 column 268 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 919 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 1015 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 1120 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 664 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 664 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 664 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 664 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 665 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 675 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 682 column 1026 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 682 column 1026 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 688 column 1582 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 688 column 1582 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 697 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 697 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 697 column 245 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 706 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 711 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 243 column 1507 - Warning: trimming empty <p>
line 369 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 485 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 691 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 694 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 213 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 240 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 242 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 243 column 1179 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 267 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 301 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 303 column 304 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 335 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 365 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 369 column 40 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 369 column 181 - Warning: <tr> proprietary attribute "height"
line 396 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 429 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 481 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 485 column 40 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 485 column 181 - Warning: <tr> proprietary attribute "height"
line 519 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 569 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 596 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 622 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 652 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 680 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 320 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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