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Hiryuu Level: 206     Posts: 2496/14435 EXP: 127482475 For next: 130904 Since: 07-06-07 Since last post: 11.8 years Last activity: 11.7 years
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neotransotaku Member wonders why OSX does not come with their version of MSPaint? Level: 52 Posts: 173/603 EXP: 1083497 For next: 343 Since: 08-24-07 From: The Landmark @ One Market Since last post: 2.6 years Last activity: 29 days
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| I wonder if I should be surprised that an israeli researcher came up with this. *shrugs* |
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Randor 750  Level: 58 Posts: 127/755 EXP: 1518276 For next: 59270 Since: 08-22-07 From: Not Oklahoma Since last post: 8.7 years Last activity: 7.5 years
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Religion is something that I always try to stay out of. It just ends up inciting arguments and lots of drama explosions.  ____________________  |
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Lyskar 12210     -The Chaos within trumps the Chaos without- Level: 192  Posts: 1338/12211 EXP: 99212563 For next: 661008 Since: 07-03-07 From: 52-2-88-7 Since last post: 7.4 years Last activity: 7.3 years
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Hiryuu Level: 206 Posts: 2508/14435 EXP: 127482475 For next: 130904 Since: 07-06-07 Since last post: 11.8 years Last activity: 11.7 years
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Tanks 360? Yessum. Level: 121  Posts: 876/4170 EXP: 19786949 For next: 269747 Since: 07-10-07 From: VA Since last post: 9.5 years Last activity: 9.5 years
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Nicole Disk-kun Level: 146  Posts: 838/6469 EXP: 38242899 For next: 270395 Since: 07-07-07 Pronouns: she/her From: Boston, MA Since last post: 66 days Last activity: 9 days
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Kirby Mario Resident BEMANI fan. Level: 87  Posts: 288/1947 EXP: 6236205 For next: 156569 Since: 11-17-07 Since last post: 6.5 years Last activity: 2.0 years
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I like how people try to do stuff like this with religion. It's entertaining, even though it's probably not even true in the first place.
Originally posted by Imajin Maybe if they have incriminating evidence that it's true, or the newspaper is a tabloid. ____________________ Can finally say that I became The Guy! |
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paulguy Green Birdo Level: 93  Posts: 53/2294 EXP: 8023466 For next: 29344 Since: 09-14-07 From: Buffalo, NY Since last post: 9.7 years Last activity: 9.6 years
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| I'm not religious at all but I can say that even if this were true, why does it matter? The ten commandments are, for the most part, pretty reasonable rules for anyone to live by (except the religion specific ones). |
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Kagome Member Level: 25  Posts: 7/113 EXP: 87634 For next: 1986 Since: 09-24-07 Since last post: 10.0 years Last activity: 9.6 years
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| Eh, to be honest, I always thought whoever wrote the bible was high while doing so. In the end, that research holds as much weight as someone saying the bible is true. |
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We need to find Noah's ark 
Well, regardless, while I do not go to church (I used to), I believe everything that is written in the bible. Besides, drugs! Back then!? All that time ago and there were drugs!? Oh my... ____________________ =================== [Posted by Jelly Beanie] |
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Stigandr 1440 Some say they're what landed at Roswell in 1947, and that their right eye sees infrared light. All we know is, they're called The Stigandr. Level: 77  Posts: 230/1441 EXP: 4015147 For next: 175982 Since: 07-21-07 Since last post: 1.5 years Last activity: 1.5 years
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Originally posted by TanksOriginally posted by Kagome Kagome's statement was about someone saying "the bible is true" - that is, as a whole, not in individual parts. Think more, react less, please. ____________________ 
I swim through a sea of stars, without looking back to shore. Faster than light, bending time. Forever Wherever |
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Kles Level: 87  Posts: 1125/1947 EXP: 6304987 For next: 87787 Since: 07-23-07 Since last post: 66 days Last activity: 20 hours
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Originally posted by Jelly Beanie I fear that you are somewhat naive. 
Originally posted by Tanks The majority of the argument comes not from whether or not these events actually occurred, but whether or not the divinity of these events is genuine. Obviously, many believe that it isn't. I don't think that most atheists (or non-Christians in general) are very intimately familiar with the Bible, though. Either way, though, regardless of how much of the Bible's content is validated by historical research, there's no way of proving the divinity of the Bible, either way you look at it. People are always going to have their beliefs and their own "reality" and nothing will change people's beliefs (outside of a very powerful emotional event). That's why the debate between theism and non-theism will never end - not because it's about facts, it's about emotions. The "facts" are called upon to defend the emotion, and if there's anything that threatens the safety and security of that emotion, the mind will rationalize in every way possible to disregard those other "facts" and not analyze it based on rationality. This goes for not only the theists but the atheists. You'd be surprised at how many "open-minded atheist skeptics" are actually more mentally shut out than the theists they dog on. My own personal views are a little weirder, but they're out of place in this thread. I hope what I've said made sense. I'm very bad at articulation. |
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Kles Level: 87 Posts: 1126/1947 EXP: 6304987 For next: 87787 Since: 07-23-07 Since last post: 66 days Last activity: 20 hours
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| Science is also highly faith based, too. The faith is not put in what we know - we have evidence for a whole plethora of phenomena and as such, we have reason to believe these things. The problem is that so many people take assumptions in science to be fact. You would be surprised the wide range of things in science that people take as fact are actually just assumptions.
On the same note, even though we have strong evidence for a huge range of phenomena, we shouldn't take these things as set in stone and unchangeable, which is what so many people do. Never was there a better example than the emergence of quantum physics - it was considered that we were close to completely understanding the universe - ticking along like a big machine. Just a few loose ends to tie up. Then, quantum physics emerge and our image of the universe is completely, utterly shattered. We've gotta remember these things and try to keep our minds open. I've seen lots of people say that "x" is impossible because "Science tells us otherwise." Such statements show me nothing but closed minded dogmaticism. I'm not bashing science - on the contrary, I'm a very scientifically minded person and I take objective, repeatable phenomena over anything else any day. My problem is "scientism," where people take the current scientific knowledge as "Truth" and completely shut their mind off to anything that would ever contradict it. Makes them just as bad as dogmatic religious folk. Ironically enough, these people are the same people who completely fly off the handle when people start advancing religious views. Figures. |
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Kagome Member Level: 25 Posts: 8/113 EXP: 87634 For next: 1986 Since: 09-24-07 Since last post: 10.0 years Last activity: 9.6 years
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Originally posted by TanksNo, I am not. If the Bible was considered to be true, scientifically speaking, there would be no atheists in this world. Originally posted by TanksLike what? Noah's Ark? I'd really like to see one valid arguement when you people say there are proven events in the bible. Originally posted by Tanks I can accept all of those except where you said they have proven the existence of Jesus. That has never been proven. Originally posted by Tanks Or maybe you need to sharpen your reading comprehension. All in all, someone who is high and writes a book can easily write fancy stuff to it. Originally posted by TanksOn the other hand, I'm not going to allow anyone to be confused about the "proven truth" of the Bible. 
Originally posted by Jelly BeanieDrugs are not something from this century.
Originally posted by KlesEh, the Bible is the best book one could read to become an atheist. I'll go as far as saying most atheists know more about the Bible than christians do. Originally posted by KlesThat's why I still say religion is a dangerous disease that should be treated accordingly. Originally posted by KlesI'm proud to say I'm a close-minded atheist. Simply because the chance of some kind of God existing is almost 0. Originally posted by ShionSorry sir, you're wrong. 2 centuries ago we didn't know much about eletromagnetism or the atom, and look at it now. Just because we don't know about something now it doesn't mean we never will. Science evolves. In Gurren Lagann terms (sorry to compare it but I had to) science uses Spiral power while religion is just an UnSpiral being. (didnt spellcheck, i'm in a hurry) |
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