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Posted on 01-15-08 04:19:01 PM Link
More delays, eh?

Who do they think they are, Microsoft?

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Posted on 01-15-08 04:25:35 PM Link
Delays are good. Means they are doing something.

Its not like with other games where they get delayed and delayed with like little work done.
Also remember Nintendo delayed Twilight Princess. Look how that turned out.

Not like theya re delaying the game and have nothing to show for it *cough*DNF*cough*

They are working on it still. Get over it and let's get to discussion.

The Pikmin stage is awesome. Its only 3 platforms with two to the sides, both being hazordous. Only problems would be there are items on the stage to begin with, meaning its going to be weird under tournament conditions unless its banned.

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Posted on 01-15-08 05:03:02 PM Link

Unless the pellets count as projectiles, I think the onion-spawned items will be affected by Item Switch as well.

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Posted on 01-15-08 08:12:02 PM Link
Considering the Japan delay is only a single week, it's probably something like Sakurai got smashed, woke up in Vegas and found he traded the gold master disc for some whiskey and hookers.
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Posted on 01-15-08 08:33:36 PM Link
Originally posted by Xenesis
Considering the Japan delay is only a single week, it's probably something like Sakurai got smashed, woke up in Vegas and found he traded the gold master disc for some whiskey and hookers.


Guessing it is for Japan not enough copies of the game to go around (remember Amazon Japan ran out quick) and for the NA release its probably because localization isn't complete and online isn't working properly or well enough to warrant a releast at that time.

Oh well. Nothing we can do about that.

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Posted on 01-15-08 11:31:17 PM Link
Originally posted by Skreeny
Originally posted by NightKev
Seriously, can't they predict when their own game is going to come out? Sigh, oh well.
Sigh. How often do you create huge, possibly console-defining video games? Or, failing that, things with even 1/5 the complexity of it?

Perhaps you should keep in mind how much can go wrong before you vilify the developers for not foreseeing every little thing when they made their prediction of a release date. Schedules change. Be happy they warned you a month in advance.
When you're almost done with a game you should know pretty much how much longer it will take to finish. And I'm not "vilifying" anyone, I'm just annoyed.

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Posted on 01-15-08 11:32:29 PM (last edited by cpubasic13 at 01-15-08 08:32 PM) Link
Originally posted by NightKev
When you're almost done with a game you should know pretty much how much longer it will take to finish.

Apparently you have never heard of "unexpected problems."

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Posted on 01-15-08 11:35:10 PM Link
Originally posted by cpubasic13
Originally posted by NightKev
When you're almost done with a game you should know pretty much how much longer it will take to finish.

Apparently you have never heard of "unexpected problems."


At least it won't end up like SSBM v0.00... even though it was a few minor issues. It took them a while to recognize the errors. Just be happy they caught this current problem before they release.

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Posted on 01-15-08 11:36:10 PM Link
Originally posted by cpubasic13
Originally posted by NightKev
When you're almost done with a game you should know pretty much how much longer it will take to finish.

Apparently you have never heard of "unexpected problems."
Well apparently they ran into way too many of those to have to delay the game twice when it's so close to being done.

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Posted on 01-15-08 11:37:35 PM (last edited by cpubasic13 at 01-15-08 08:37 PM) Link
Originally posted by NightKev
Well apparently they ran into way too many of those to have to delay the game twice when it's so close to being done.

No. First delay was done to add more content. Hell Sakurai added an update even stating he wanted to add a bit more content to it. THAT was the first delay.

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Posted on 01-15-08 11:39:51 PM Link
Originally posted by cpubasic13
Originally posted by NightKev
Well apparently they ran into way too many of those to have to delay the game twice when it's so close to being done.

No. First delay was done to add more content. Hell Sakurai added an update even stating he wanted to add a bit more content to it. THAT was the first delay.
What? I don't remember that.

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Posted on 01-15-08 11:40:53 PM Link
You didn't?

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Posted on 01-15-08 11:47:25 PM Link
Originally posted by cpubasic13
You didn't?
I don't see him saying extra content is being put into the game, it looks like he's saying they're trying to polish it up and do other last-minute things that will take them a little longer than expected.

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Posted on 01-15-08 11:50:41 PM (last edited by cpubasic13 at 01-15-08 08:54 PM) Link
I know that many of you will be disappointed by this news, but please understand that the extra development time will enable us to make the game the best it can be. It is my earnest hope that you will all be enjoying this game for many years, and we are all working very hard toward that goal.
I dunno about you, but that sounds like "Hey, if this game is going to be great, I need to add in things to make it THIS good."

EDIT: Video from Nintendo.

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Suicune's attack has changed from Melee, in case no one's noticed.

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Posted on 01-16-08 12:14:32 AM Link
Originally posted by cpubasic13
EDIT: Video from Nintendo.

I'm going to restate this.

This has footage you can't get until the game comes out. Stage editor, trophies, Home Run Contest, etc.

Loads slowly but new content is new content.

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Posted on 01-16-08 12:52:53 AM Link
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Very nice. My brother wonders why I watch videos I can't understand. In reality, HE is the one who doesn't understand.

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Posted on 01-16-08 01:37:47 AM Link
The release date change was already mentioned before, let's move on and not dwell on it like every other board I've been to.
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line 671 column 216 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 665 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
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line 179 column 404 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
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line 179 column 683 - Warning: <tr> proprietary attribute "height"
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line 179 column 896 - Warning: <tr> proprietary attribute "height"
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line 248 column 738 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
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line 301 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 303 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 318 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 456 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
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line 577 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 579 column 73 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 580 column 1179 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 604 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 632 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 658 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 416 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md