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Posted on 11-27-18 07:35:25 AM Link | Quote
SMF is horrid for local mods, you can't even give access to staff boards if you assign them.

Plus it hasn't been updated in a year or so...

I'm starting to like MyBB more, however, again.

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Posted on 11-28-18 07:42:19 AM Link | Quote
I don't think I ever got to use any forum that used phpBB unfortunately (and I'm too inexperienced to just set up a test one just to see how it works). MyBB is also kinda nice I guess, shame the only experience I had with it was with a terrible forum. Something I still stand by is that vBulletin sucks.

Anyone have any opinions on Xenforo? I kinda liked its interface, but I didn't get to use it for very long before the forum that I went to that used it closed down for good.

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Posted on 11-29-18 02:22:45 AM Link | Quote
I only got to play around with Xenforo briefly maybe 5 years ago, but I didn't like it. I don't know if it's as social media-y and bloated as I'm remembering or if I'm just kneejerk reacting

vBulletin does suck. I don't even know if the latest versions even work with a modern PHP setup or what's going on there because I tried messing around recently and I just could not get it to install no matter what. I think you might need to use some ancient PHP version from 10 years ago to even run it

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Posted on 11-29-18 05:25:09 AM (last edited by headache booth at 11-29-18 08:57:07 AM) Link | Quote


i don't really like xenforo from just a user perspective, but that really might just be because all of the xenforo forums i've used had shitty users and/or staff.
it kind of seems like a lot of forums nowadays have shitty users (not jul though, otherwise i wouldn't be here!)

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Posted on 12-02-18 07:04:10 AM Link | Quote
GBATemp is a good example of shitty XenForo site... also IPS is bloated as fuck, using about 20-30MB on a fresh install for the DB...

As well, vB was good until they were bought out by some other company and the good devs left for XenForo

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Posted on 12-06-18 01:25:33 AM Link | Quote
Whoa, when did GBATemp switch to XenForo? Jeez, they were one of the last IPB holdouts.

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Posted on 12-06-18 05:09:05 PM Link | Quote
UESCTerm 802.11 (remote override)
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BZPower still uses IPBoard :V

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Posted on 12-11-18 11:01:40 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
I never really got the hate phpBB got. I mean it's not great, sure, but it was a pretty solid forum system for a long time, even if it had its fair share of security oopsies.

been moderating RVLution for a while, including when it was still a phpBB, and eventually built that little list of gripes I had with it. of course that was with RVLution's setup, might have been different elsewhere.

• ban lists are presented in tiny, non-resizable list boxes. When your board has been running for a few months, they become a pain to use.
• trashing a thread requires 8 clicks.
• when a post is deleted, it is permanently destroyed, and no indication is given that it ever existed. Bad bad bad, what if your board gets hacked? Thread deletion seems to work the same way, too.
• relatedly, banning a user provides no visual indication that the user is banned. More generally, phpBB seems geared towards opaque moderation; I believe transparent moderation is more efficient.
• the permission system is a giant pain. There are several levels of permissions waiting to backbite you if you haven't configured them right.
• making a phpBB skin is a giant pain because there are tons of elements to customize
• similarly, phpBB's codebase is a huge mess, making it a pain to customize at code level
• no way to detect users with similar IPs or other kinds of potential duplicate accounts
• vanilla phpBB is spammer-friendly (although that's the fate of any popular board software)


the general sentiment was shared with Treeki, too, which is why it was eventually switched to Blargboard. (and lord was that whole affair a mistake)

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Posted on 12-11-18 05:25:24 PM Link | Quote
I mean, if I wanted to, I could formulate a list of gripes not terribly unlike that. You get little gripes any time you deal with software that you can't (or won't) fix

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Posted on 12-22-18 03:05:06 PM (last edited by Jamie at 12-22-18 03:09:06 PM) Link | Quote
Goddamn, RVL should have stayed phpBB, at least then there wouldn't have been the 'kid AcmlmBoard' union cult thing that seems to existed back in 2014 or so (idiot Jamie was included in that ofc), I remember all the shitty NSMBW hack derpboards back then... - basically, a bunch of 12yo's that followed every fucking AB around and somehow formed some sort of cult following between lame kids like me back then

...and then there was the boards that actively seemed tried to be derpy in 2016 (mine, TMolter's, xkitten's, etc.)

If it weren't for that shit I might actually have ended up more stable as a person, etc

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Posted on 12-22-18 04:22:07 PM Link | Quote
I ended up missing out on all the things that happened on RVLution because I kept marking it as "read later" until one day they closed down the forums and never opened an archive of it again. So...yeah, I guess I'll never know.
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Posted on 12-22-18 04:33:29 PM Link | Quote
long story short it was a shitshow of terrible administration from all the parties involved

nothing of value was lost

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Posted on 12-22-18 04:33:51 PM Link | Quote
tbh you saved yourself a lot of hassle there

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Posted on 12-22-18 04:39:29 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by RanAS
I ended up missing out on all the things that happened on RVLution because I kept marking it as "read later" until one day they closed down the forums and never opened an archive of it again. So...yeah, I guess I'll never know.

tl;dr the community itself was toxic. Once Newer was released, people were trying super hard to make themselves look better than everyone else, and then Blargboard was introduced and every single hack had its own board. It was a fiasco that I hated to moderate.

So glad its closed lol

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Posted on 12-22-18 04:59:57 PM Link | Quote
>Blargboard

the old Blargboard forum at K64 was full of idiocy

and, fuck, I mean it

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Posted on 12-23-18 10:10:16 AM Link | Quote
the whole ABXD and Blargboard thing is another completely separate ordeal that I didn't pay attention to but considering the fact that both are not available to download anymore and both of their forums were closed, I'd guess that the whole "every single hack had its own board" prompted them to close it for good and never touch it again

is ABXD/Blargboard still going anywhere or is it dead for good?

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Posted on 12-23-18 10:45:48 AM Link | Quote
Blargboard is dead pretty much. I only ever counted one serious project involving it and it never went anywhere; all that ever say the light of the day was countless derpboards ran by the RVL kids. and RVL itself, which was, in a way, the mother derpboard.

combine that with the fact I disliked how the codebase turned, and you guess how it goes.

trying to make Blargboard public and all was a terrible mistake. esp. taking it to some webdev forums. like, there was that forum where it first met good critics, then that guy game and kept shitting on it because 'muh code standards' and derailing the thread into an argument over stupid shit (like how phpBB spends their time rewriting their code to respect the day's standards instead of adding features... ok whatever), and then going on about how I can't take criticism and just want an echo chamber. ok well...

I guess ABXD has seen the same fate pretty much, except it still serves for NSMBHD.

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Posted on 12-23-18 01:02:51 PM Link | Quote
slowly steps out of the conversation because of the billions of derpderpboards he has run over the past 5 years running ABXD

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Originally posted by StapleButter
trying to make Blargboard public and all was a terrible mistake. esp. taking it to some webdev forums. like, there was that forum where it first met good critics, then that guy game and kept shitting on it because 'muh code standards' and derailing the thread into an argument over stupid shit (like how phpBB spends their time rewriting their code to respect the day's standards instead of adding features... ok whatever), and then going on about how I can't take criticism and just want an echo chamber. ok well...


oh god, i think i ran into that a while back when digging around for acmlmboard-related junk out of curiosity. that was a painful conversation to read and i imagine it was probably way more painful to be an actual part of it

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Posted on 01-22-19 02:16:22 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by StapleButter

• the permission system is a giant pain. There are several levels of permissions waiting to backbite you if you haven't configured them right.



Jeepers I totally forgot about that. Yeah what were they thinking? Those permissions were crazy. Here I was with nostalgia goggles on thinking about how neat and fun phpBB boards were (And I guess if you were just posting on them, hey no problem!) but yeah, that crap was way too much.

Originally posted by Jamie

I remember all the shitty NSMBW hack derpboards back then... - basically, a bunch of 12yo's that followed every fucking AB around and somehow formed some sort of cult following between lame kids like me back then


Bruh, I'm pretty sure all of those accounts were one person.

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line 779 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 759 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 298 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md