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Posted on 10-22-18 11:01:12 PM Link | Quote
I would love to go electric myself; I dunno if I could get a charger put in near my parking lot but it'd be cool if I could, I use my car so rarely and usually not to go far, so I imagine I could get 100% of my car usage just from home charging.

But they're still so expensive... I was able to get my Chevy Sonic (same platform as Bolt, but with a gas engine) used for payment in cash, no way I could afford that on an electric.

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Posted on 10-23-18 04:36:50 AM (last edited by Dprotp at 10-23-18 04:37:11 AM) Link | Quote
god fuck i meant volt, i couldn't go full electric. i definitely want long-distance driving too. want my go juice!!

and full electric in an apartment complex would be .... an interesting move

oops

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Posted on 10-23-18 04:40:46 AM Link | Quote
My girlfriend got a Volt a little while back, too. I don't normally have opinions on cars other than "they move people to places" and "they spew horrible poison gas into the air", but it seems like a pretty nice car.

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Posted on 10-23-18 08:33:08 AM Link | Quote
There's no way I could use an electric. I literally drive 40 km each way to work every day.
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Posted on 10-23-18 06:53:39 PM Link | Quote
kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/617

There's no infrastructure that supports owning an electric vehicle around here if you live in an apartment, and lol at the concept of buying a townhouse starting at 400 fucking thousand dollars.

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Posted on 10-23-18 06:59:57 PM Link | Quote
also, replacing all the vehicles roaming the Earth by electrical ones isn't going to be a solution

because much of the underlying problems would still be there

green capitalism is a mirage

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Posted on 10-23-18 07:16:15 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by StapleButter
because much of the underlying problems would still be there


...Such as?


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Posted on 10-24-18 02:06:41 AM Link | Quote
kazinsal@araxes> show file jul:/posts/kazinsal/618

China's fossil fuel CO2 emissions last year were equivalent to 3 billion passenger vehicles. Fucking Bitcoin's CO2 footprint is equivalent to 6 million passenger vehicles. There are about a billion passenger vehicles worldwide.

Replacing gasoline and diesel engines with electric ones would remove the direct carbon output of the vehicles but it would increase the energy requirement from the worldwide electrical capacity significantly, and guess how much of that is being generated by fossil fuels?

capitalism dot txt. Absolute shame that a couple relatively minor accidents caused by bad design and poor materials handling totally smashed the future of nuclear power.

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Posted on 10-24-18 02:56:12 AM Link | Quote
yeah my basic understanding of it is that it just displaces where the harm is done, but doesn't actually remove it

(it may be more beneifical now because demand is lower, but is it scalable? iono i'm no expert)

i have to admit the environment had very little impact on my decision, which is shitty to our current situation and rather selfish--i was mainly thinking about what i'd save by not getting gas as often

to quote rambly


I don't normally have opinions on cars other than "they move people to places" and "they spew horrible poison gas into the air", but it seems like a pretty nice car.


pretty much my thoughts there. the emissions suck (and the manufacturing behind them, regardless of the motor, sucks/probably sucks too) but fuck man i gotta get to work you know? and my old car was on its way to killing me--losing traction on a simple left turn because of a bump in the road and having to countersteer to fight that is asking for trouble (i've almost had bad experiences on turning highway ramps and the slight bumps on them)

capitalism sucks and i'm pretty much just looking out for myself at this point. i mainly just feel relief now, for my safety and some slight optimism in a hopefully long-term return on savings on fuel

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Posted on 10-24-18 05:11:02 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dprotp
capitalism sucks and i'm pretty much just looking out for myself at this point
yeah... it's not like most people have a real choice otherwise when it comes to "voting with your dollar"

no ethical consumption under capitalism, and whatnot.

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Posted on 10-25-18 12:41:14 AM Link | Quote
Alrighty, here we go

Originally posted by Kazinsal
China's fossil fuel CO2 emissions last year were equivalent to 3 billion passenger vehicles.


China has been working toward reducing fossil fuel usage for energy, so that is becoming less and less the case.


Originally posted by Kazinsal
Fucking Bitcoin's CO2 footprint is equivalent to 6 million passenger vehicles.


Which will become less and less once as we move away from fossil fuels for energy production.

Originally posted by Kazinsal
Replacing gasoline and diesel engines with electric ones would remove the direct carbon output of the vehicles but it would increase the energy requirement from the worldwide electrical capacity significantly, and guess how much of that is being generated by fossil fuels?


That's a typical argument that can be easily refuted. Claims like this is under the false pretense that electric vehicles that get their energy through fossil fuels ad traditional combustion engine vehicles are similarly efficient. This couldn't be further from the truth. power plants are far more efficient at producing energy than gas vehicles, thus, an electric car getting it's energy from a much more efficient source would produce less CO2 to run than a gasoline car would, not to mention that electric cars getting their energy from a renewable source would produce fuck all.

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Posted on 10-25-18 05:32:35 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Reaper Man
Originally posted by Kazinsal
Fucking Bitcoin's CO2 footprint is equivalent to 6 million passenger vehicles.


Which will become less and less once as we move away from fossil fuels for energy production.
sounds great, but it's working off of the assumption that we're going to actually move away from fossil fuels in electricity production, particularly at a rate fast enough to avert global catastrophe (i.e. a future where climate change is reducing arable land and livable land in coastal areas and oligarchical income inequality synthesizes with it). market forces alone aren't likely to significantly reduce fossil fuel output, and there's very little pressure being applied from most states that have the power to fix it (China's doing something now, but it remains to be seen whether or not it's reversing, and the U.S. is actively moving away from renewable energy). when there are powerful actors, inside and outside of the state, working to prevent the modernization of fuel there's not really very much reason to be optimistic

there's no doubt that electric vehicles would help the situation, and from a purely utilitarian perspective i think that using an electric vehicle is demonstrably better than not. but on one hand, it would still be a bandaid over a severed limb, and on the other, there's significant resistance there, especially in the United States (even just culturally)

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Posted on 10-25-18 01:18:00 PM Link | Quote
Most power around here comes from natural gas, and to be fair, natural gas has less emissions than gasoline. It still has CO2 emissions, of course, but it's a net win even if you exclude the renewable component in the power grid.

The people in power in the US may talk about coal a lot, but economically it's pretty much a loser. Pretty much everything else in the grid is equal or better for the environment than gasoline burning afaik. (And it's easier to capture and filter emissions when they're at a central power plant rather than on every individual car)

Obviously, electric public transit is a better and substantially more efficient solution. But I would say that, as an effete Northeastern liberal elitist.

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Posted on 10-25-18 02:20:02 PM Link | Quote
One other thing that would help is urban planners (and "housing developments" in general) not designing their layouts like a goddamn maze.

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Posted on 11-19-18 03:46:21 PM Link | Quote
"Happy holidays!"

me: wha

"It's Thanksgiving week!"

me: ...oh

Good grief, that was fast...

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Posted on 11-19-18 03:53:09 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
"Happy holidays!"

me: wha

"It's Thanksgiving week!"

me: ...oh

Good grief, that was fast...

Local stores have had Christmas decorations since October....

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Posted on 11-20-18 10:09:11 AM Link | Quote
Lol posting from college internet

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Posted on 11-20-18 07:24:12 PM Link | Quote

I somehow managed to forget I naturally write tersely and that I probably shouldn't worry too much my posts on here are so short.

Re: holiday decorations - The existence of Sinterklaas somewhat supresses early Christmas decoration, but that mostly just means Sinterklaas stuff can be found in shops starting September instead.

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Posted on 11-20-18 10:18:09 PM (last edited by Kawaii-e at 01-30-22 05:35:52 AM) Link | Quote


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Let's have a good time together!
Somehow, I'm in the mood to post here, once again.

I think it's about the only place I think I could just write about almost anything (Lot's of buts in here).

It's just a great atmosphere.

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Posted on 11-21-18 01:49:14 PM Link | Quote
Same, I look at all the new posts and don't have anything to reply to most of them.

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line 646 column 580 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 672 column 108 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 737 column 1820 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 737 column 1903 - Warning: <img> attribute "width" has invalid value "37.3"
line 737 column 1903 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 746 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 747 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 747 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 776 column 43 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 776 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 776 column 241 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 785 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 790 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 420 column 960 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 733 column 503 - Warning: trimming empty <p>
line 733 column 771 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 733 column 768 - Warning: trimming empty <p>
line 737 column 2035 - Warning: trimming empty <p>
line 770 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 205 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 207 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 235 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 261 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 287 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 317 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 347 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 376 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 410 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 412 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 448 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 476 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 515 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 545 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 575 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 601 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 635 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 670 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 696 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 727 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 729 column 111 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "height"
line 733 column 707 - Warning: <tr> proprietary attribute "height"
line 733 column 856 - Warning: <font> proprietary attribute "align"
line 733 column 927 - Warning: <font> proprietary attribute "align"
line 737 column 1194 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 737 column 1194 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 737 column 1320 - Warning: <tr> proprietary attribute "height"
line 737 column 1492 - Warning: <tr> proprietary attribute "height"
line 737 column 1564 - Warning: <tr> proprietary attribute "height"
line 737 column 1747 - Warning: <tr> proprietary attribute "height"
line 763 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 396 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md