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You know, somethin' else.
Not at all
 
5.3%, 3 votes
Maybe once or twice
 
14.0%, 8 votes
Every now and then
 
22.8%, 13 votes
Tons, like, daydreaming about it level
 
14.0%, 8 votes
I AM the other gender
 
43.9%, 25 votes
Multi-voting is disabled. 57 users have voted.

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Posted on 07-16-18 02:30:33 PM Link | Quote
More so than I used to admit, but that could also be because I'm unhappy with myself in other ways.

I won't go into detail right now since I have a hard time putting my private thoughts into words. Besides, it's my journey so I can take it at the pace I want. I just hope I end up happier.

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Posted on 08-06-18 08:45:27 PM Link | Quote

By now I think the best I can tell is I'm genderfluid, tending to lean feminine a little more often. That is, I've been trying to log my feelings daily since late April and with many gaps earlier, I seem to do pretty well, now. Feminine/Female moods last longer.

Originally posted by Xkeeper
...the fact it's basically been reduced to "what parts do you have" / "what parts do you want to have" in most cases is p awful


Although I'm (hopefully!) better than that in general with other people that's more or less as sophisticated as my process goes at the moment... Hello there feeling like a fraud.

Maybe it'll get better as I get attuned more to these feelings.



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Posted on 08-07-18 03:29:01 AM Link | Quote
I had a dream about it once... It felt weirdly realistic, and I think my brain struggled to comprehend sensory inputs from my dream body's new features. (At least, I'm assuming it was a dream... )

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Posted on 08-07-18 09:04:46 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BatElite
Originally posted by Xkeeper
...the fact it's basically been reduced to "what parts do you have" / "what parts do you want to have" in most cases is p awful

Although I'm (hopefully!) better than that in general with other people that's more or less as sophisticated as my process goes at the moment... Hello there feeling like a fraud.

Maybe it'll get better as I get attuned more to these feelings.

To be clear, if that's the most important aspect of it to you, that's okay. It's just good to understand that it's not the be-all end-all of gender for everyone.



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Posted on 08-07-18 02:53:30 PM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Q
Originally posted by BatElite
*Stuff I might as well trim*

To be clear, if that's the most important aspect of it to you, that's okay. It's just good to understand that it's not the be-all end-all of gender for everyone.



Oh I know, and I hope in fact things turn out a bit more sophisticated for me at some point. It feels like I'm taking the piss at times, comparing how I judge things to others. :/

Gender as it relates to others is something I've been watching a bit from the sideline, learning as I go.

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Posted on 08-08-18 03:23:10 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BatElite
Oh I know, and I hope in fact things turn out a bit more sophisticated for me at some point. It feels like I'm taking the piss at times, comparing how I judge things to others. :/

Gender as it relates to others is something I've been watching a bit from the sideline, learning as I go.

i think something that's important to know is that nobody else but you gets to determine how you interpret your feelings relating your gender, and how you designate your gender

gender is a personal thing. there's no "right" or "wrong" or "sophisticated" or "overly simple" way to experience it. be you, whatever that you is

(of course, if you feel like there's more complicated feelings there and you want to unravel them, by all means, keep exploring... but don't feel pressured into anything based on comparison to others)

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Posted on 09-16-18 10:45:52 AM Link | Quote
i wish i was a girl

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Posted on 09-16-18 11:15:21 AM Link | Quote
Wish granted

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Posted on 09-17-18 12:34:46 AM (last edited by Darkhero at 09-17-18 04:28:01 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rambly
i wish i was a girl

Good news! You already are.

As for me... A lot has happened since my egg cracked in July and I'm currently in the cycle of confidence followed by doubts and dysphoria, and it's been preventing me from taking any steps beyond small things here and in private. Doesn't help that I'm a broke college student.

Maybe I should talk it out with someone here, if I ever get the confidence.

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Posted on 09-17-18 03:49:18 AM Link | Quote
I'm up for talking with people about gender stuff if anybody feels like they need to talk to somebody about it.

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Posted on 09-17-18 10:17:49 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Q
Wish granted

about damn time

Originally posted by Darkhero
Originally posted by Rambly
i wish i was a girl

Good news! You already are.

nope wrong >:(

Originally posted by Q
I'm up for talking with people about gender stuff if anybody feels like they need to talk to somebody about it.
ok i'll PM you

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Posted on 09-17-18 06:54:43 PM Link | Quote
my new poll response is "[something about Judith Butler]"

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Posted on 09-17-18 07:11:37 PM (last edited by Luigigamer4718 at 09-17-18 07:12:25 PM) Link | Quote
Yeah. On and off since about early 2016, though it's noted in my specialist doctor's letters to my parents that I'm suspected of having gender dysphoria after I mentioned it to them. Perhaps it's true feelings as they never went away fully, and they are pretty strong feelings indeed.

My parents don't accept me, but I'm planning to transition when I move out. Not sure how I'm gonna cope with it all though given I'm heterosexual (if you go by my assigned-at-birth sex) and perhaps maybe will ask a certain Nicole at college out, she's a heterosexual female sadly...

... relationships with others will be difficult. This is also the UK, so acceptance and getting through will also be difficult. But hey, if it makes me happy in the long run for who I am and I actually start expressing myself IRL how I want to, rather than having to fill in this stereotypical male personality somewhat (though I actually don't particularly do so, I feel men are more pressured emotionally and women more physically idk)

(Though I do plan to get with another MtF at some point who is actually an inactive member here.)

Seems the nearest gender clinic to me is in London. If I drive there I'll have to deal with idiot drivers (I'm learning to drive pretty soon).
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Posted on 09-18-18 08:20:14 AM Link | Quote
I've thought about it at times, but looking back at it it has mostly come down to general body dysphoria, rather than gender dysphoria specifically.

I mean, that being said I have never really wanted to be particularly masculine with my gender. I guess the desired expression of my gender I wanted was "male but soft", I guess? I dunno how to put it into words.
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Originally posted by Xenesis
I've thought about it at times, but looking back at it it has mostly come down to general body dysphoria, rather than gender dysphoria specifically.

I mean, that being said I have never really wanted to be particularly masculine with my gender. I guess the desired expression of my gender I wanted was "male but soft", I guess? I dunno how to put it into words.


This is literally the conclusion I have reached in these last weeks and my goodness does it feel good!

I think without places like this I might still be wondering and worrying.

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Posted on 09-20-18 02:04:04 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xenesis
I've thought about it at times, but looking back at it it has mostly come down to general body dysphoria, rather than gender dysphoria specifically.

I mean, that being said I have never really wanted to be particularly masculine with my gender. I guess the desired expression of my gender I wanted was "male but soft", I guess? I dunno how to put it into words.

same here for me. i may actually know how to put it into words but i'm worried i might get carried away. plus i'm still not sure i got it 100% figured out yet

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Originally posted by Xenesis
I've thought about it at times, but looking back at it it has mostly come down to general body dysphoria, rather than gender dysphoria specifically.

I mean, that being said I have never really wanted to be particularly masculine with my gender. I guess the desired expression of my gender I wanted was "male but soft", I guess? I dunno how to put it into words.


Sometimes this doesn't feel much easier to attain, honestly...

I guess my ideal would be having this be completely malleable so I can do whatever I feel like based on the situation... Sadly, my body is busy degrading in the usual irreversible ways, so this'll probably never be possible.
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I mean, every once in a while, but not in the sense that I'd want to get a sex change or anything like that, it's just that sometimes I wonder what living would physically feel like if my body was born with .. well, y'know, other parts.

It's not actually something I really care about though, I honestly sort of figured everyone occasionally imagined that. I'm kind of surprised actually at how many people in this thread are not only answering "yes" to this but also saying they outright want to get a change or have already done so (not saying that's a bad thing of course).
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line 155 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 156 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "5.3%"
line 156 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "888888" and has been replaced
line 159 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 159 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 160 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "14.0%"
line 160 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "aaaaaa" and has been replaced
line 163 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 163 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 164 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "22.8%"
line 164 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "cccccc" and has been replaced
line 167 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 167 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 168 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "14.0%"
line 168 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 171 column 70 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 171 column 70 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 172 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "width" has invalid value "43.9%"
line 172 column 70 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "c0ffee" and has been replaced
line 186 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 240 column 1017 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 240 column 1017 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 274 column 734 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 274 column 734 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 306 column 1552 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 306 column 1552 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 621 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 621 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 621 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 621 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 621 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 621 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 621 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 621 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 621 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 769 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 769 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 770 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 780 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 796 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 796 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 796 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 805 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 810 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 274 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 790 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 203 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 233 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 272 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 276 column 861 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 303 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 335 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 371 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 404 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 430 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 456 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 489 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 515 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 548 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 576 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 610 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 638 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 670 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 699 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 731 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 759 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 785 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 369 warnings and 1 error!

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md