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Posted on 03-03-18 09:47:26 PM (last edited by Xkeeper at 03-03-18 09:50:16 PM) Link | Quote


These are displayed on the sidebar (for users using the regular thread layout and using the default, non-customized sidebar), as well as on your profile in all cases.

go nuts



(E: to focus on the presentation, the gender/name color option now reflects what name colors will be used)
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Posted on 03-03-18 09:56:10 PM Link | Quote
Ikachan in the screenshot in a good spot as usual.

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Posted on 03-03-18 09:57:06 PM Link | Quote
Of course. Little bugger always wants to be in the spotlight

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Posted on 03-03-18 09:58:23 PM Link | Quote
ikachan is a friend
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Posted on 03-03-18 10:11:41 PM Link | Quote
Wooo! This may make things easier for some of us, hooray!
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Posted on 03-03-18 10:27:39 PM Link | Quote
(+) Neat! But also: huh. This doesn't go in meta?
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Posted on 03-03-18 10:28:09 PM Link | Quote
I mean technically it can, but I can just move it there later.

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Posted on 03-03-18 11:04:58 PM Link | Quote
Does this mean ikachan is a girl? 'w'

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Posted on 03-03-18 11:05:11 PM Link | Quote
Ikachan is a PNG.

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Posted on 03-03-18 11:18:26 PM Link | Quote
neat

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Posted on 03-04-18 02:22:40 AM Link | Quote
This is useful. I never assumed anyone's gender by their username color (everyone has fun with the colors anyway) so this helps. Although probably would be more useful if English distinguished genders in the 2nd person as I don't find myself referring to people on the third person here often

Although, I can't help but wonder where we'd be if English had a usable (not "it"), truly gender-neutral (not "neutral he") third person singular personal pronoun (not "they").

In Mandarin Chinese for example, "he" and "she" are homophones, so technically it's always neutral
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Posted on 03-04-18 02:26:17 AM Link | Quote
Neat! Also nice to see the de-prioritization of the gender element of the gender field.
Originally posted by FieryIce
In Mandarin Chinese for example, "he" and "she" are homophones, so technically it's always neutral

They are written differently, though, right?

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Posted on 03-04-18 02:29:19 AM Link | Quote
I think this is really useful. This helps because I'm not good with memorizing at times.
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Posted on 03-04-18 03:46:31 AM (last edited by Xkeeper at 03-04-18 03:46:52 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Nicole
Neat! Also nice to see the de-prioritization of the gender element of the gender field.

It had already been largely de-emphasized 17 years ago when we all used it for the color, anyway (or set it to ... well, hm)

This just makes it official, and made N/A into "Other / N/A", so it's at least slightly less binary now. In the future, maybe it will be replaced with a "choose your own name color, smarty pants" feature.

E: For now, it still affects grouping in the Memberlist sort options, but that particular choice is going to get removed eventually™.

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Posted on 03-04-18 12:09:24 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
It had already been largely de-emphasized 17 years ago when we all used it for the color, anyway (or set it to ... well, hm)

oh gods now i'm remembering back when we'd have the christmas theme and i'd change my gender to female... because, you know, i just want my username to be red

no other reason

what are you talking about



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Posted on 03-04-18 12:47:51 PM (last edited by FieryIce at 03-04-18 12:48:49 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Nicole
Neat! Also nice to see the de-prioritization of the gender element of the gender field.
Originally posted by FieryIce
In Mandarin Chinese for example, "he" and "she" are homophones, so technically it's always neutral

They are written differently, though, right?

Yeah, the characters are different in writing (他 vs 她 vs 它) so it only really works in speech. The third one is essentially the Chinese equivalent of "it."

It gets worse in writing though, you can actually specify gender in the 2nd person singular, too. 你 is usually used and for all intents and purposes is neutral, but you can use 妳 to specify female gender (this is fairly rare, though, in my experience). Two characters like this was a natural evolution of 尔 (classical Chinese for "you"), I suppose.
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Posted on 03-04-18 02:42:44 PM Link | Quote
Nyanners' Post
Nice, now people will finally know the correct pronoun to use when describing me!

Time had to come, colours are colours.

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Posted on 03-04-18 05:29:39 PM Link | Quote
I was hoping that people would use it somewhat seriously, but at least that one isn't terrible, I guess.

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I’m a big fan of pronoun fields but I never know what to do with them

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Posted on 03-04-18 07:35:59 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
I was hoping that people would use it somewhat seriously, but at least that one isn't terrible, I guess.

not too bad compared to Kuribo64's gender field, I guess

mysql> select gender from users where gender!='' limit 20;

+----------------------------------------------+

| gender                                       |

+----------------------------------------------+

| complicated                                  |

| Male                                         |

| Female                                       |

| 42                                           |

| Androgynous                                  |

| Demigirl                                     |

| lamp (male)                                  |

| b01                                          |

| mail man                                     |

| yeah                                         |

| Male                                         |

| Male                                         |

| jeff                                         |

| Female                                       |

| Female                                       |

| n/a                                          |

| Male                                         |

| A Captain Toad™ Treasure Tracker game disc   |

| male                                         |

| Male                                         |

+----------------------------------------------+


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line 570 column 575 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 570 column 575 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 597 column 416 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 608 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 608 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 608 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 608 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 608 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 655 column 1097 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 655 column 1097 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 663 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 707 column 633 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 707 column 633 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 743 column 43 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 743 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 743 column 244 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 752 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 757 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 737 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 211 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 213 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 237 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 263 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 289 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 315 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 341 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 367 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 394 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 420 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 446 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 476 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 504 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 530 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 561 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 594 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 625 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 653 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 679 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 705 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 334 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md