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Posted on 10-18-14 07:57:06 PM Link | Quote
I've put this thread through several iterations and I think I should just be blunt.

I don't want to take a passive or corrective role, I want to really do something and actively contribute to the wiki. I'm a good writer but I have no real skills in doing what you guys do with games. Even though I've read the wiki since at least January it's only been the thing I want to do now that has led me here. If someone here can help me with this first I would be very open to learning more on how to dig into more complicated things. I'm a very good writer and I've got lots of free time.


As for what I want help with: it's finding the full picture of the overworld in a .swf game for an online interactive comic about the Elder Scrolls series.
http://www.prequeladventure.com/this/excelsior/Kvatchbound.swf
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Posted on 10-18-14 08:34:26 PM (last edited by hedgehog89 at 10-18-14 08:37:23 PM) Link | Quote
I'd believe this should be easy. Not complex stuff is required to begin.

SWF games can be a standalone file or multiple SWFs where the main one is a loader and the other gets loaded as you progress or view sections of the game.

First, you must load the game's page on Internet Explorer, then play the most areas of the game, view all menues. Exactly do everything that makes the game load something.

You should go now to, well, I will try a rough translation as my system is in spanish, Internet Options -> Browsing History (on General Tab) -> Click Configuration -> Click View Files. This will open a folder in your system containing all cache files from web pages. Toggle the detailed file view and order the files by the Internet Address, in your case find all files from http://www.prequeladventure.com. You will see all swfs, mp3 and other media related to the game.

Just begin copying them to a folder, but trying to recreate the same directory structure (for example if an swf called inventory.swf is in /menues/inventory.swf then copy it inside a folder named menues in the new folder).

By doing that I've managed to dump and run entire swf based web sites on my pc offline.

After that you can get a SWF decompiler software that can dump any media file inside the swf (they are easier to use).

Good luck!
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Posted on 10-18-14 08:58:11 PM (last edited by Rothnihalias at 10-18-14 09:01:32 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by hedgehog89
I'd believe this should be easy. Not complex stuff is required to begin.

SWF games can be a standalone file or multiple SWFs where the main one is a loader and the other gets loaded as you progress or view sections of the game.

First, you must load the game's page on Internet Explorer, then play the most areas of the game, view all menues. Exactly do everything that makes the game load something.

You should go now to, well, I will try a rough translation as my system is in spanish, Internet Options -> Browsing History (on General Tab) -> Click Configuration -> Click View Files. This will open a folder in your system containing all cache files from web pages. Toggle the detailed file view and order the files by the Internet Address, in your case find all files from http://www.prequeladventure.com. You will see all swfs, mp3 and other media related to the game.

Just begin copying them to a folder, but trying to recreate the same directory structure (for example if an swf called inventory.swf is in /menues/inventory.swf then copy it inside a folder named menues in the new folder).

By doing that I've managed to dump and run entire swf based web sites on my pc offline.

After that you can get a SWF decompiler software that can dump any media file inside the swf (they are easier to use).

Good luck!


Thank you! I was really worried I'd get shunned or something.

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Wait. This is premature, I didn't follow all instructions yet.

Sorry.

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Posted on 10-18-14 09:17:25 PM Link | Quote
You can disassemble the game using this. The map data is all stored as text, but I don't know what each value means. (The ones that are all evenly divisible by 16 are probably X and Y coordinates.)

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Posted on 10-18-14 10:28:56 PM (last edited by Rothnihalias at 10-18-14 10:38:32 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Joe
You can disassemble the game using this. The map data is all stored as text, but I don't know what each value means. (The ones that are all evenly divisible by 16 are probably X and Y coordinates.)


Thank you. I appreciate the software tool.

Originally posted by hedgehog89
I'd believe this should be easy. Not complex stuff is required to begin.

SWF games can be a standalone file or multiple SWFs where the main one is a loader and the other gets loaded as you progress or view sections of the game.

First, you must load the game's page on Internet Explorer, then play the most areas of the game, view all menues. Exactly do everything that makes the game load something.

You should go now to, well, I will try a rough translation as my system is in spanish, Internet Options -> Browsing History (on General Tab) -> Click Configuration -> Click View Files. This will open a folder in your system containing all cache files from web pages. Toggle the detailed file view and order the files by the Internet Address, in your case find all files from http://www.prequeladventure.com. You will see all swfs, mp3 and other media related to the game.

Just begin copying them to a folder, but trying to recreate the same directory structure (for example if an swf called inventory.swf is in /menues/inventory.swf then copy it inside a folder named menues in the new folder).

By doing that I've managed to dump and run entire swf based web sites on my pc offline.

After that you can get a SWF decompiler software that can dump any media file inside the swf (they are easier to use).

Good luck!


Ok so I followed your instructions but I don't think it worked.

The only thing from www.prequeladventure.com is this: http://i.imgur.com/0D4sC2b.png

And it doesn't show up under the recently accessed files either: http://i.imgur.com/2abOivT.png

I figure it's either the XML Document or the ASHX File but that doesn't seem right. What do I do from here?
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Posted on 10-19-14 03:29:05 AM Link | Quote
I've found is a single file, just right click on the link you've posted, save as or, open it in Chrome or Firefox and save it in the same way you save a page, it's around 12 MB.

I couldn't find it in IE, maybe it doesn't save it in the cache by some reason.
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Posted on 10-19-14 05:59:19 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by hedgehog89
I've found is a single file, just right click on the link you've posted, save as or, open it in Chrome or Firefox and save it in the same way you save a page, it's around 12 MB.

I couldn't find it in IE, maybe it doesn't save it in the cache by some reason.


It's okay. I should have simply searched how to do it in the first place. In the end it was all pieces put together with hexadecimal data. (Back to plan A) I am already messing around with other swf files.

Thank you very much for the help. The question I can't answer is what to do next. I suppose I'll look to see where I can help with the wiki, but I have no clue what to do when it comes to tearing apart an actual game.
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