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Posted on 05-09-14 02:26:54 PM Link | Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_YXCm4Ie48

Not on the wiki as of yet. Thought someone might be able to articulate it better than I.

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Posted on 05-11-14 05:59:45 PM (last edited by divingkataetheweirdo at 05-12-14 02:06:53 AM) Link | Quote
There's another PS2 game, Conflict: Desert Storm, that has a debug mode in there that uses the keyboard. I'm neither sure if there are any other games that use the keyboard, nor if any PS3 titles use the keyboards for debugging.

Needless to say, that video demonstrated those features nicely. I wish I could take screenshots, but I have no idea how PS2 emulators would work with keyboards and I don't have the game.

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Posted on 05-12-14 12:03:04 AM Link | Quote
Apparently you can use the Nuvee PS2 USB Plugin to emulate a keyboard, but the plugin is rather old.

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Posted on 05-13-14 02:57:08 AM (last edited by Phugolz at 05-13-14 08:16:11 AM) Link | Quote
I just gave conflict desert storm a shot and it didn't react to the keyboard at all. You sure you have the correct game?

EDIT: was an issue with the connection. I see them now

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Posted on 05-28-14 05:03:44 AM Link | Quote
Harmonx Guitar Hero (and, I believe, Rock Band as well) games on the PS2 have functions in the .dta scripting to handle several debug-related keyboard commands, but I have never been able to get the game to activate them. There seems to be a missing USBKB.IRX (that I'm not sure whether it's a Sony-provided library or not), and I believe some settings would have to be changed. I have successfully made GH2 load a USB driver and power the keyboard, however, but have not gotten it to actually accept keyboard commands.
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Posted on 05-29-14 10:42:36 PM Link | Quote
Hey LH, had no idea you came here! Here's that USBKB.IRX for you: https://www.mediafire.com/?lcjjqdj7qoxbz4y

That's from Shifters. And here's USBKEYBD.IRX from Desert Storm: https://www.mediafire.com/?b2twt9yw79ptiek

They're different sizes, but they might help your research.

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Posted on 05-30-14 08:41:53 PM (last edited by divingkataetheweirdo at 05-30-14 09:09:28 PM) Link | Quote
Here are some other games with USBKB.IRX:
Juiced
Venus & Braves: Majou to Megami to Horobi no Yogen
Shadow of the Colossus (JP version)
Legion: Legend of Excalibur
World Soccer Winning Eleven 8: Liveware Evolution (abbreviated here as WSWE8: LE)
NBA Ballers: Phenom
ATV Off Road Fury 4
Star Wars: Battlefront (US version)
Max Payne 1

Max Payne 1 and WSWE8: LE have that and USBKEYBD.IRX, so they might have a debug mode. Also, I think they are similar, but the actual contents may vary depending on what version of the SDK they used to develop the game with. Jak 3 also has USBKEYBD.IRX, but not USBKB.IRX.

Personally, I think Legion is the most likely to have any kind of debug mode. Haven't checked out any of the games yet for debug modes, but most of these had online capabilities. So, for those games, that file is there for stuff like inputting your name and password, chatting with other players, etc.

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Posted on 05-30-14 08:45:14 PM Link | Quote
Thanks, Phug. I'm under the impression that the specific driver needed relies on the version of the SDK that the game was developed on (which can be gleaned from the IOPRP*.IMG file). I also don't know if USBKEYBD.IRX is the same driver or not, I found one of those on a prototype revision of Frequency and had no luck with it. Of course, my issue may not be with the driver itself, but with merely making the game load it. It's worth searching through other games that don't normally support keyboards for evidence of debug keys.
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Posted on 05-30-14 11:15:07 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by divingkataetheweirdo
Here are some other games with USBKB.IRX:
Juiced
Venus & Braves: Majou to Megami to Horobi no Yogen
Shadow of the Colossus (JP version)
Legion: Legend of Excalibur
World Soccer Winning Eleven 8: Liveware Evolution (abbreviated here as WSWE8: LE)
NBA Ballers: Phenom
ATV Off Road Fury 4
Star Wars: Battlefront (US version)
Max Payne 1

Max Payne 1 and WSWE8: LE have that and USBKEYBD.IRX, so they might have a debug mode. Also, I think they are similar, but the actual contents may vary depending on what version of the SDK they used to develop the game with. Jak 3 also has USBKEYBD.IRX, but not USBKB.IRX.

Personally, I think Legion is the most likely to have any kind of debug mode. Haven't checked out any of the games yet for debug modes, but most of these had online capabilities. So, for those games, that file is there for stuff like inputting your name and password, chatting with other players, etc.


A handfull of prototypes use the usb keyboard too

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Posted on 05-30-14 11:17:47 PM Link | Quote
Also LH, here's some ps2 dev tools if you want to check through them: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/25ucax1ihi8r8/Sony_-_Playstation_2

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Posted on 05-31-14 12:28:59 AM Link | Quote
I think I have all of that except maybe one of the SDKs, I'll have to check when I get back to my computer. Thanks again, Phug.
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Posted on 06-07-14 08:42:14 PM Link | Quote
You try rebuilding an ISO with that file LH?

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Posted on 06-11-14 05:44:59 PM Link | Quote
Not yet. I'm going to further study the .dta scripting to see if I missed something before when I tried to enable it.
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Posted on 06-12-14 05:39:16 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by LocalH
Not yet. I'm going to further study the .dta scripting to see if I missed something before when I tried to enable it.


Keeping any notes?

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Posted on 06-14-14 04:20:12 AM (last edited by LocalH at 06-14-14 04:25:52 AM) Link | Quote
I do when there's something really interesting. Otherwise, it's mostly just parsing the scripting format when detokenized/decompiled/de-whatever-the-fuck-you-want-to-call-it, which would be better served by a short guide explaining the syntax and a list of file locations and non-wrapped line numbers). Since it's a Harmonix-specific format (as best as I can tell, it's only used in GH series before GH3, RB series (of which the PS2 version of RB1 only actually mistakenly contains the pre-tokenization .DTAs with original dev comments) and possibly other HMX-developed games like Frequency or Amplitude (although being earlier games, tool support is much more sparse)).

That reminds me, I still have to get back to the work I was going to do on the GH2 page, and should probably at least make a basic RB1 page to dump some of the .DTA files on the Notes page). Although I'm not sure if I still have any unmodified copies of the GH2 demos (the copies on my PS2's HDD are hacked to expose more of the menu flow than the unmodified copies let the user access, like video options or even career mode). Plus my hack to the "10-song" store demo adds an unlock all code, making it possible to access all 31 songs without the old hacky way which consisted of downloading (or patching) the original ISO to make three different ones, each with a different 10 songs on the setlist, and which also left one song (which, I forget) inaccessible at all even with the hack. My hack, you boot the game, press YYY (or triangle three times on DualShock) to unlock all, then go into the setlist. It even shows the placeholder songs they "left" in which refer to existing files (so no unused songs like in GH1 aside from Bang Your Head). I'll do some work on that when I get back from Indiana, I'm on a working trip at my uncle's military reunion (shooting video).

Probably should also make sure others have the tools I'm using with GH/RB games in case they want to dig around.
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