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Posted on 09-21-13 11:03:46 PM Link | Quote
Greetings, I've been looking through the wiki and have not seen some of the things I've discovered since I started hacking games.

So let me start with JESUS for the NES. You're missing a password that brings you to the end of the game. It literally translates to To Ms. Emi Haimoto: Will you be Mr. Toku’s bride?

はいもとの　えみさんへ　とくさんの　よめにこい

Also this mashes a bunch of song titles from the soundtrack together.

さりゆくも のたちきら めくひとみ そらのはて

This translates to Young Motsu played {keyboard} since he was young

もつくんは わかままて れいさろん ひきたかる
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Posted on 09-22-13 07:29:04 PM Link | Quote
Twinbee 3.

There are alternate endings in the game. There's one normal credits section for the easy difficulty and a joke credits for the hard difficulty. Furthermore, there is more hidden text after the credits. Based on a variable in RAM, the picks alternate ending messages other than CONGRATULATIONS. Stuff like OH MY GOD, ARE YOU OK etc.

Pariodius Da!

There are several hidden stages in the game.

Stage 1: Equip a weapon that doesn't fire straight...
(Like the RIPPLE or DOUBLE weapon) and fire at the
ceiling just past the first pirate ship. The ceiling
will break open and you can go up into the sky stage.
Start shooting early, because if you break it open
too late, the screen won't pan up, and you can't enter
the stage.

Stage 3: When the roller coaster takes a downward
turn, there's a wall that seals shut at the top of
the screen. Blow the wall open, and continue to the
right before the screen pans down. If it pans to the
right, you're in the new stage. If it doesn't, you're
dead. (Be prepared to die many times before you get
into this stage.)

Stage 5: Blow the mouth apart at the front of the
spaceship, and then enter the mouth.

Stage 6: The second time you enter the water, you'll
see a black square with sparkles. Touch it to enter
the last extra stage.
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Posted on 09-22-13 08:00:18 PM Link | Quote
Have these already been documented elsewhere, or were you the first to find them? We typically don't document things like secret passwords and levels unless nobody else has found them yet, they're unused, or they are related to debugging functions.

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Posted on 09-22-13 08:19:17 PM Link | Quote
To my knowledge, no. You already list the passwords in Jesus, so I figure someone can add the fifth one in. Also there are unused graphics in Parodius. I know there is one unused the end graphic in Japanese.

But here's one that can be documented. Castle Quest for the NES. There are several names that trigger hidden content, including a secret message and sound editor mode. Also if you don't pick a default name, the game names you after an obscenity.

Tarot[END]
//たろっと[END]

#WHB(Block2, $181AB)
#WLB(Block2, $181AF)
Demo[END]
//でも[END]

#WHB(Block2, $1824F)
#WLB(Block2, $18253)
Cumin[END]
//くみんし-ど[END]

#WHB(Block2, $18277)
#WLB(Block2, $1827B)
Morikyuu[END]
//もりきゅう[END]

#WHB(Block2, $181CF)
#WLB(Block2, $181D3)
Portrait[END]
//よこがお[END]

#WHB(Block2, $181E1)
#WLB(Block2, $181E5)
Pics[END]
//さしえ[END]

#WHB(Block2, $181F3)
#WLB(Block2, $181F7)
Cards[END]
//とらんぷ[END]

#WHB(Block2, $18205)
#WLB(Block2, $18209)
Sound[END]
//もにた-[END]

#WHB(Block2, $1821A)
#WLB(Block2, $1821E)
Ohkubo[END]
//おおくほななこ[END]

#WHB(Block2, $18232)
#WLB(Block2, $18236)
Masato[END]
//なかしままさと[END]

#JMP($1FFC4)

#WHB(Block2, $18182)
#WLB(Block2, $18186)
Shithead[END]
//ざけんなよ[END]
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Posted on 09-22-13 09:48:51 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Pennywise
ざけんなよ
I'm pretty sure that's not an obscenity, but all of the results on Google are copied verbatim from JMDict.

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Posted on 09-23-13 02:19:35 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Joe
Originally posted by Pennywise
ざけんなよ
I'm pretty sure that's not an obscenity, but all of the results on Google are copied verbatim from JMDict.


Zankennayo could be an obscenity. You can translate it as is either "Don't mess with me" or "Don't fuck with me" or "Stop playing around", that sort of thing.
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Posted on 09-23-13 02:23:12 PM (last edited by ICEknight at 09-23-13 02:29:44 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Mr.Tickles
Originally posted by Joe
Originally posted by Pennywise
ざけんなよ
I'm pretty sure that's not an obscenity, but all of the results on Google are copied verbatim from JMDict.


Zankennayo could be an obscenity. You can translate it as is either "Don't mess with me" or "Don't fuck with me"
It seems to me like the degree of obscenity would just depend on the translator's angst (as happens in a number of fan translations).

I'd try asking a native Japanese for the most common meaning and the true degree of rudeness that this word might carry with it, before assuming things.
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Posted on 09-23-13 11:31:58 PM (last edited by Sik at 09-24-13 12:54:43 AM) Link | Quote
EDICT marks it as obscene, though I've heard the term before somewhere so let's not assume things (for all we know it could just be mild).

Originally posted by ICEknight
I'd try asking a native Japanese for the most common meaning and the true degree of rudeness that this word might carry with it, before assuming things.

Eh, I can probably ask somebody (I have quite a large amount of people to who I could ask).

EDIT: https://twitter.com/X2010_Love_Yuma/status/382320359082426368
Originally posted by @X2010_Love_Yuma
@Sikthehedgehog それを言う場面による。Ex: fuck or damn or shit

No idea how obscene would that qualify, but at least shows the use of the phrase (seems to be just a general swear).
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Posted on 09-24-13 01:03:27 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Pennywise
Twinbee 3.

There are alternate endings in the game. There's one normal credits section for the easy difficulty and a joke credits for the hard difficulty. Furthermore, there is more hidden text after the credits. Based on a variable in RAM, the picks alternate ending messages other than CONGRATULATIONS. Stuff like OH MY GOD, ARE YOU OK etc.



Wait what? How do I trigger that? Is it random?
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Originally posted by Sik
Originally posted by @X2010_Love_Yuma
@Sikthehedgehog それを言う場面による。Ex: fuck or damn or shit

No idea how obscene would that qualify,
According to that reply you got, the severity depends on the situation. (Japanese is a really vague language sometimes. )
Originally posted by Sik
but at least shows the use of the phrase (seems to be just a general swear).
I've only ever heard/seen it used in a specific context, though.

I don't think we're going to get a clear answer unless we ask about the game specifically.

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Posted on 09-24-13 01:35:31 AM (last edited by Sik at 09-24-13 01:41:40 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Joe
According to that reply you got, the severity depends on the situation. (Japanese is a really vague language sometimes. )

He's just saying it depends on whether you're in a casual situation (e.g. with friends) or in a formal situation (e.g. you wouldn't shout out swears when talking to a store clerk or a business partner, right?). Pretty much what happens in Western cultures, really.

tl;dr just a generic swear. No biggie.

EDIT: assuming you're talking about the second reply I got in Twitter and not the first reply (the one I quoted here), since he uses that word you linked in the second reply.
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...There wasn't a second reply when I posted.

I agree with your interpretation; it's not polite language. I don't think it's quite the severity that the fan translation chose, but eh.

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Originally posted by Joe
...There wasn't a second reply when I posted.

OK so that was pure coincidence XD (then again I came post as soon as I got that second reply, which is the one that clarified the usage)

Originally posted by Joe
I agree with your interpretation; it's not polite language. I don't think it's quite the severity that the fan translation chose, but eh.

Yep, pretty much exactly this. It seems to be more like when one shouts out "shit" when something goes wrong or stuff like that. The fact it's short (especially when you remove the particles) probably should have given it away, but some people don't get it...

Originally posted by Joe
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Originally posted by Sik
Originally posted by Joe
...There wasn't a second reply when I posted.

OK so that was pure coincidence XD (then again I came post as soon as I got that second reply, which is the one that clarified the usage)

Originally posted by Joe
I agree with your interpretation; it's not polite language. I don't think it's quite the severity that the fan translation chose, but eh.

Yep, pretty much exactly this. It seems to be more like when one shouts out "shit" when something goes wrong or stuff like that. The fact it's short (especially when you remove the particles) probably should have given it away, but some people don't get it...


Pretty much the answer I got, it's not nice, but nothing overly bad.
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Posted on 09-24-13 11:17:59 PM Link | Quote
I didn't expect this thread to turn into a debate on the translation of an insignificant piece of text :/

Anyway, Twinbee, this piece of code triggers the different ending text.

[CODE]CMP #$07

BCC $B0E7

LDA $007F = #$01

CMP #$0B

BEQ $B0F1

LDA $007F = #$01

CMP #$13

BEQ $B0F1

BCC $B0EC

LDA $007F = #$01

CMP #$26

BEQ $B0F1

LDA $007F = #$01

CMP #$3A

BEQ $B0F1

LDA $007F = #$01

CMP #$6C

BEQ $B0E2[/CODE]


#$7F is the variable, but I'm not sure what it is exactly. The only thing I can say for sure is by picking the hard difficulty 7F becomes $07. This extra ending text might not even normally be triggered in the game as far I can tell.

Here's a good one. Metal Slader Glory has a debug mode accessed by password.

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line 633 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 633 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 644 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 651 column 264 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 651 column 264 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 666 column 21 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 666 column 62 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 666 column 111 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 666 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 677 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 720 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 720 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 720 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 729 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 734 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 714 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 717 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 215 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 270 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 272 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 296 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 379 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 405 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 433 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 463 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 496 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 528 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 558 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 589 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 617 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 649 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 682 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 239 warnings and 1 error!

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
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Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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