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Posted on 05-08-13 05:40:38 PM Link | Quote
Some stuff I found on eBay:

Looney Tunes Twouble (GBC) Prototype
GBDSO (Game Boy Digital Sampling Oscilloscope) Demo
Nintendo GameCube Promotional Disc (PC)
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Posted on 05-08-13 08:44:13 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 05-08-13 08:44:26 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by AttackedbyGlitch
Nintendo GameCube Promotional Disc (PC)

This thing only contains videos.

I gave away -several- of these at one point. They're not even remotely rare.

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Posted on 05-09-13 07:01:38 PM Link | Quote
Borman released four prototypes recently, due to the attention they were getting from the media. He released two builds of Perfect Dark and Conker's BFD (the Conker protos probably being the most interesting).

The direct link is here: https://mega.co.nz/#!70QmwYgD!Fuj4X2SIKtbdsvbYbHW0wixvkHMqSPo0raeQ_B3isKk
(may not work unless you're using Chrome.)
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Posted on 05-14-13 11:57:27 PM Link | Quote
Apparently the Double Fine humble bundle is now offering eight prototypes if pays over the average sale of the bundle.

We just added eight inventive prototypes to the Humble Double Fine Bundle
! This includes Autonomous, Black Lake, Hack n’ Slash, Spacebase DF-9, The White Birch, Costume Quest prototype, Happy Song, and Brazen! (Please note, all the prototypes are Windows only.) You'll also get to check out 2 Player Productions' fantastic documentary about Amnesia Fortnight 2012.


I don't think I've heard of something like this happening before. Most devs seem to want to hold on to their unfinished works for an indefinite period of time.

http://www.humblebundle.com/
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Posted on 05-15-13 12:28:32 AM Link | Quote
Seven of these (Autonomous, Black Lake, Costume Quest, Hack n' Slash, Happy Song, Spacebase DF-9, The White Birch) were previously released in the Amnesia Fortnight 2012. The only new one (at least, for me) is the Brazen prototype.
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Posted on 05-15-13 02:56:03 AM (last edited by Foxhack at 05-15-13 02:58:25 AM) Link | Quote
The games are (normally) sold by Double Fine for $10 and are downloadable through Steam. They've been available for a few months, I think.

http://www.doublefine.com/fortnight

I don't think these belong at the site, personally, since seven out of the eight are proof of concept games (except for Costume Quest, which was finished quite a while ago) but that's just me.

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Posted on 05-15-13 07:11:40 AM (last edited by Celice at 05-15-13 07:12:10 AM) Link | Quote
I hadn't been following Double Fine so I didn't know about some of those already being released--I got an email today noting that these were added to a humble bundle and got intrigued. Wanted to share it around just in case it would be of interest to any one else

Still, I wonder whether the Costume Quest prototype would be interesting to look into for the sake of this wiki.
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Posted on 05-21-13 08:02:45 PM Link | Quote
Two new protos were posted on Retro: Sonic Adventure Autodemo and a demo of Sonic Adventure 2. Both seem close to final, with a few minor differences.

http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=31425

http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=31426
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Posted on 05-24-13 04:35:13 AM Link | Quote
Prince of Persia II (SNES) prototype
http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?46118-Prince-of-Persia-2-Prototype-Release-%28SNES%29
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Posted on 05-24-13 05:26:21 PM Link | Quote
Beta Oddworld- Abe' Exoddus
http://forums.hidden-palace.org/viewtopic.php?t=3090
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Posted on 05-24-13 08:49:10 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 05-24-13 08:51:13 PM) Link | Quote
... That's half in Russian. I think whoever had the original dump tried to translate it. :\

Edit: Another thread on the topic is here.

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Posted on 05-29-13 04:06:43 AM Link | Quote
I think this has already been dumped for TCRF but I think it is work mentioning since I found it.

Sonic Crackers

Not sure if it is the real deal but there you go.

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Posted on 05-29-13 05:12:57 AM Link | Quote
The problem with Sonic Crackers is that there are numerous copies of it, and from what I understand, none of them are "real" - the game was found in the trash, burned to EPROM boards, and distributed by a former Sega employee. The title screen of this particular copy (seen briefly here) even has the same date as the publicly-available ROM.

I guess that'd be worth owning for the official Sega EPROM board, but not much else.

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Posted on 06-05-13 07:45:19 PM (last edited by LocalH at 06-05-13 07:50:50 PM) Link | Quote
My thought is that the 2MB copy that was found on a tall board has a better chance of being "real" than the short boards. Then again, that cart had part of some build of TMNT: Tournament Fighters on it (or some other TMNT game, I'm re-reading up on it now, my guess is some of the chips were replaced after burning Crackers to them and the upper 1MB was just left alone). Has anyone else heard of a Sega tall board containing a smaller game and the upper part of a totally different game, besides this one?

Unfortunately (unless the Crackers part is bit-identical), everyone seems to treat that 2MB dump as an "overdump" which is completely and utterly wrong.
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Posted on 06-05-13 11:48:34 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by LocalH
My thought is that the 2MB copy that was found on a tall board has a better chance of being "real" than the short boards. Then again, that cart had part of some build of TMNT: Tournament Fighters on it (or some other TMNT game, I'm re-reading up on it now, my guess is some of the chips were replaced after burning Crackers to them and the upper 1MB was just left alone). Has anyone else heard of a Sega tall board containing a smaller game and the upper part of a totally different game, besides this one?

Unfortunately (unless the Crackers part is bit-identical), everyone seems to treat that 2MB dump as an "overdump" which is completely and utterly wrong.


I only remember this vaguely, but wasn't here also a proto that contained the beta of a shmup in the back of it?
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Posted on 06-06-13 02:32:15 AM (last edited by LocalH at 06-06-13 02:33:39 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Aeonic Butterfly
I only remember this vaguely, but wasn't here also a proto that contained the beta of a shmup in the back of it?

The Sonic Spinball prototype, which was not a clean dump of the original cartridge when the Sonic scene got hold of it (although I think the only thing that was modified in the actual Spinball data was the start vector, other than that the modifications were just appended to the end). On the end of that ROM, there was also 112KB of a Sub-Terrania prototype in SMD format. The Sub-Terrania ROM had a Fairlight crack intro that was disabled, according to X-Cult. As well, the scene discovered that the Spinball proto had also been slightly re-modified to disable a crack intro that was appended to the game by Premiere, the group that released the ROM originally. It was fairly simple to re-enable that crack intro, it was literally just a hack of the start vector in the main ROM header.

I would be very, very surprised if this Sub-Terrania data was on the original cart that the Spinball proto was dumped from, given the presence of SMD-format data as well as two crack intros. I don't remember the file size of the Spinball proto after removing the 112KB of Sub-Terrania, but it's always possible I guess that the Spinball proto needed padding to work on the copiers of the time, and they may have taken a ROM already in SMD format to pad it so that it wouldn't be that obvious to the end users what the data was (as it would then be double-interleaved after putting the whole combined ROM into SMD format). That's just a hypothesis, though, the only way to be sure would be to track down people who were responsible for the ROM's original scene release and ask them.
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Posted on 06-06-13 03:54:12 AM (last edited by divingkataetheweirdo at 06-06-13 03:54:46 AM) Link | Quote
On that note, that Premiere intro seen in Sonic Spinball's prototype was re-used for a prototype of Ren & Stimpy: Stimpy's Invention. Speaking of which, that was quite different from the final game, with many of stages not even present in the final game and the art of some of the stages is completely different.

X-Cult has a section on that, although the pictures are unusable, since they are largely .jpegs.

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Posted on 06-06-13 04:12:56 AM (last edited by andlabs at 06-06-13 04:13:28 AM) Link | Quote
Ugh, I was wondering why the Bubba n Stix prototype had a PREMIERE header; I was hoping it was just a hack and not an actual prototype :| Guess it's time to mark all these old dump as bad. (I just started building a wiki to document the existence and history of prototype dumps in general; when I get a chance to really start it I'll make a note, but the prototypes in no-intro come first.)
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Posted on 06-06-13 04:19:40 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by divingkataetheweirdo
On that note, that Premiere intro seen in Sonic Spinball's prototype was re-used for a prototype of Ren & Stimpy: Stimpy's Invention. Speaking of which, that was quite different from the final game, with many of stages not even present in the final game and the art of some of the stages is completely different.

X-Cult has a section on that, although the pictures are unusable, since they are largely .jpegs.

Many groups used the same intros across multiple releases, it was sorta their "branding" back in the day when crack intros were commonly accepted.

andlabs: Luckily, there's probably not too much damage on these types of ROMs outside of the header. All of the actual game code and data is likely 100% intact, usually they would append their intro onto the end of the ROM, change the start vector to jump to the intro, and when pressing whichever button they chose to go on past the intro, it would jump to the original start vector. I know that means you can't be 100% sure that reversing those changes will give you a pristine ROM, but outside of the game title that's probably all that was changed (I doubt they even changed the ROM size field in the header). This is only really an issue with protos, as most retail games that had an intro'd ROM at one point now have a verified good dump (and there are more potential cart dumpers in the world than ever before due to the Retrodes).
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Posted on 06-06-13 07:15:35 PM Link | Quote
I'm not sure how thoroghly this prototye has been documented, but Serious Sam Public Test 2 is on the humble weekly sale.
https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly

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line 752 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 732 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 207 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 528 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
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Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 347 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md