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Posted on 11-03-12 01:11:06 PM Link | Quote
Sorry to bump, but I updated the MMX3 and MMX4 section and added the MMX5 and MMX6 section.
MMX3 has got the most important update, and especialy interesting for GoldS.
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Posted on 11-03-12 05:52:48 PM (last edited by Rick at 11-03-12 05:53:10 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Mugen-tan
Also, remember, how the wiki mentions an unused Ganseki Carrier type? This Ganseki Carrier is actualy USED, but has a different behaviour AND you can only see him, when you clear the mace section fast enough. Only saw that in the Anniversary Collection version of this game, though.


Are you talking about in the intro stage or somewhere else?

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Posted on 11-04-12 04:37:47 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rick
Originally posted by Mugen-tan
Also, remember, how the wiki mentions an unused Ganseki Carrier type? This Ganseki Carrier is actualy USED, but has a different behaviour AND you can only see him, when you clear the mace section fast enough. Only saw that in the Anniversary Collection version of this game, though.


Are you talking about in the intro stage or somewhere else?

Yes, I'm talking about the intro stage. I also saw a video of the intro stage, where the Ganseki Carrier could be briefly seen. However, I would still keep it in the wiki, though not as unused enemy, but as an unused behaviour.
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Posted on 11-04-12 09:30:36 AM Link | Quote
*BUMP*
Updated the MMX5 section.
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Posted on 11-04-12 11:06:37 AM Link | Quote
Might wanna check the pic links. Almost all the ones from X4 to X6 are broken.

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Posted on 11-04-12 12:01:51 PM (last edited by MUGEN-tan at 11-04-12 12:02:37 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rick
Might wanna check the pic links. Almost all the ones from X4 to X6 are broken.

Odd, they work fine for me. Could you specifically tell me, which are broken or which are not broken?
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Posted on 11-04-12 12:04:13 PM Link | Quote
Everything but Rollin' Gear is broken for me.

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Posted on 11-04-12 12:24:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Zero One
Everything but Rollin' Gear is broken for me.

SCREW YOU, GAUNTLEEEEEEEEEET!!!
...ahem, will there be an update to the forum soon, where it lets me hotlink to images from other sites?
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Posted on 11-04-12 04:58:25 PM Link | Quote
The images are being blocked because the original site doesn't want you to hotlink them. You'll have to upload them elsewhere (Photobucket, Imgur, imgh.us) and edit your post.

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Posted on 11-05-12 04:35:06 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Joe
The images are being blocked because the original site doesn't want you to hotlink them. You'll have to upload them elsewhere (Photobucket, Imgur, imgh.us) and edit your post.

I'm already tired of uploading them myself ...did someone already talked to Gauntlet about that?
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Posted on 11-05-12 09:42:46 PM Link | Quote
It's not our job to talk to other webmasters about their hotlinking policies, sorry. Besides, it would be pretty rude. Hotlinked images are often blocked for very good reasons (excessive bandwidth usage usually being #1).

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Posted on 11-06-12 04:32:46 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BMF54123
It's not our job to talk to other webmasters about their hotlinking policies, sorry. Besides, it would be pretty rude. Hotlinked images are often blocked for very good reasons (excessive bandwidth usage usually being #1).


Okay, I'll upload them elsewhere, just give me some time.
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Posted on 11-06-12 05:30:04 AM Link | Quote
You can drag and drop images from the website onto imgur.com and it will upload them once you tell them too. The only quicker thing I can think of is if you save all the images then drag them collectively to imgur.com too.

I've found that that site is really awesome for image reupping
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Posted on 11-06-12 07:02:18 AM Link | Quote
Okay, upload a screen for the MMX4 section to imgur.
Please tell me, if the pic works now.
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Posted on 11-10-12 09:52:23 PM Link | Quote
I did some investigation into the stuff in X5. Namely, those sprites of unarmored X, and assembling oddities with Zero for the same sequence. Forgive the lengthy post, there's a bit of explanations to be had here!



This is the actual tile data, ripped and assembled. The unarmored X sprites are here, intact, and they appear organized until you look at the other bits that were meant to have X's other prominent color, which are glitched. Of note, applying X's regular palette will not work here, as the modified Fourth Armor palette and X's normal in-game colors do not have anything in common with each other as far as their color organization goes. This is the only part of X5 where X himself uses an entirely different palette to the rest of his appearances.



Had Capcom not botched the unarmored frames, they likely would've looked like this. I'd like to point out as well that these aren't the frames currently on the Wiki, they are recolors based on the above tile rip I posted.



In addition, even though Zero's palette made it through intact, he didn't come away without being glitched himself.

At first glance, these are just the sprites themselves. No, you'd be wrong, these are how they are arranged in the tile data itself, which is how they are loaded and displayed in-game. But around Zero's chest, there's a sprite oddity:



Since I've invested a lot of time into analyzing Capcom's sprite styles when it comes to the Megaman X series, I found that this would not be a normal trait for them. Not only did Zero's shoulder change size by the frame, the bottom half of this sprite behaved strangely, and his hand seemed to crush and stretch itself randomly. Not only that, Zero's missing arm wasn't very consistent in it's shaping.


It turned out that this was because Zero's sprites for this sequence were being improperly assembled! This is how the sprites SHOULD look in-game. Though why they aren't is either because the sprites were arranged properly, or the programmers weren't paying enough attention.
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Posted on 11-11-12 02:24:14 PM Link | Quote
Thanks, gonna quote you in the first page.
Also, refreshed all broken pics in the MegaMan X4 section. Have fun.
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Posted on 11-12-12 12:34:09 AM Link | Quote
I'm surprised this hasn't been documented here:

http://www.rockmancorner.com/2012/08/hidden-oddities-in-rockman-x4-trial-ver.html
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Posted on 11-13-12 07:25:18 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dickson
I'm surprised this hasn't been documented here:

http://www.rockmancorner.com/2012/08/hidden-oddities-in-rockman-x4-trial-ver.html

This has been documented...well, at least the Rollin' Gear.
About the Kamen Raider cameo, I need to get familiar with that first, so I can confirm more informations about it.
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Posted on 11-14-12 09:22:51 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MUGEN-tan
About the Kamen Rider (Rahan: emphasis mine. D: Rider, not Raider) cameo, I need to get familiar with that first, so I can confirm more informations about it.


If you need "more confirmation" that Capcom's staff are a bunch of dorks that hide various Japanese pop culture stuff in the data of their games, you don't need to look much further than Megaman Legends 2.

As for the identity of the character in that image: Speaking as Jul's resident Kamen Rider expert, that is most definitely Colonel Zol. It's been years since I played X4, but if there's some sort of evil/villainous military figure in X4, then this was probably used as his character portrait in development, considering Zol is a pretty evil military dude.

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Posted on 11-14-12 09:35:40 PM Link | Quote
Well, there is a villain(ish) character actually named Colonel. You face him after defeating 4 Mavericks, and a character portrait of him does appear on the stage select screen when he's challenging you. But it just appears on its own, not nestled with the other Maverick portraits where it's a stage you can select. It's also a good bit larger than the other Maverick portraits.
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line 743 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 757 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 703 column 651 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 737 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 204 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 235 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 264 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 291 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 347 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 349 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 379 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 407 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 433 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 732 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 317 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md