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Posted on 07-29-12 04:21:01 AM Link | Quote
Here is something interesting on Ebay and thought it was worth mentioning here. I don't know if it is real but if you plan on buying it, then I hope you have deep pockets.......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Legend-Zelda-NES-Nintendo-Prototype-and-VGA-Factory-Sealed-copy-graded-85-/251116736970?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item3a77b951ca#ht_1011wt_1270

This wouldn't happen to be the same prototype that is listed on TCRF, is it?
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Posted on 07-29-12 04:26:57 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cuber456
This wouldn't happen to be the same prototype that is listed on TCRF, is it?


No, the one on ours is an actual prototype of the FDS version, with honest-to-god differences from the final Japanese version. Judging by the description, if this proto has "no differences from the released version," then it's little more than a magazine review copy, if it's legit at all.

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Posted on 07-29-12 04:44:39 AM Link | Quote
$150K for what is essentially a final version? That's a quixotic price and it's not as interesting as the seller would like to say.
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Posted on 07-29-12 04:55:47 AM Link | Quote
Oh wow, what a rip.
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Posted on 07-29-12 05:16:48 AM Link | Quote
"Game Special Features Horseback riding is a new and key element in the game play. A great deal of combat takes place on horseback enabling Link to bump his adversaries off their war-horses. Shifting camera system that allows for views behind the back and from above. Camera can be locked during battles. All new characters."

Holy shit prototype discovery of the century

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Posted on 07-29-12 09:06:47 AM Link | Quote
Unfortunately, this is not a very interesting prototype. For Zelda 1, it will have to find better than the FDS version that is a real wonder and is extremely rare.

Although I am very obsessed with prototypes of Zelda 64 and TWW, a prototype of Zelda 1 even older than the one we have, is one of my wildest dreams! Something of a rarity older than 25/26 years!

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Posted on 07-29-12 10:23:33 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by devin
"Game Special Features Horseback riding is a new and key element in the game play. A great deal of combat takes place on horseback enabling Link to bump his adversaries off their war-horses. Shifting camera system that allows for views behind the back and from above. Camera can be locked during battles. All new characters."

Holy shit prototype discovery of the century

Apparently this proto is also available for the GBA and GameCube
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Posted on 07-29-12 12:42:42 PM Link | Quote
Weird they would use the yellow cartridge. There were yellow copies of Zelda distributed to repair stations for some reason IIRC.
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Posted on 07-29-12 10:03:58 PM Link | Quote
Well I thought it was at least worth mentioning. I'm hoping that some of you at least got a laugh out of it then
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Posted on 07-29-12 10:38:30 PM Link | Quote
If it really is identical to the final game, the only points of interest are the prototype MMC1 chip and the PCB itself. I don't think that's worth anything near $150,000 though.

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Posted on 07-29-12 10:54:31 PM Link | Quote


>>ESTABLISHING LINK...DONE.    >>FETCHING POST DATA...DONE.    >>EXECUTING POSTDISP.BIN...


The problem with that listing is that stupid "VGA graded" copy of the retail game. I'd bet that's what's driving up the seller's idea of a price here...


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Posted on 07-30-12 01:26:58 PM (last edited by Dark Linkaël at 07-30-12 01:27:31 PM) Link | Quote
Ah, I remember speaking in January 2011 on the forum of "Lost Levels", another white disk FDS "ZEL-A". You can see my message here:

Lost Levels : The Legend of Zelda prototype



I hope one day see this prototype and especially it is different from the one we know "ZEL-B".

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Posted on 07-30-12 03:48:21 PM Link | Quote
Without looking at anything, keep in mind that the sides of famicom disks were Side A and Side B, so it could simply be that is Side A of the disk (and ZEL-B is printed on the opposite side).

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Posted on 07-30-12 04:25:38 PM Link | Quote
This is what I think as a priority, but that of "ZEL-B", there is only one label and nothing on the other side. Maybe she was simply detached.

However, the "ZEL-A" is another disc with "maybe" different data than "ZEL-B". Only is it difficult to learn about this copy since it is located in a collector...

I am surprised that another copy of this prototype exists and that is also went out from Nintendo Japan. The white disc FDS are rather rare objects.

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Posted on 07-31-12 11:39:10 PM Link | Quote
Somehow, Slashdot thinks this is frontpage news. Even with the obvious Twilight Princess copy. O.o

http://games.slashdot.org/story/12/07/30/1514254/legend-of-zelda-nes-nintendo-prototype-on-sale-for-150k

I pity whoever buys this, really.

Also, what is a VGA graded copy, why's it matter if I can't play it, and is this his way of making a profit on an otherwise almost worthless (at least, to the beta community) prototype?
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Posted on 08-01-12 02:25:50 AM Link | Quote
This line caught my attention:

The prototype in this auction uses a custom board labeled "NES-SRP-TEST-02" which appears to have four EPROMs installed, probably 256Kbit each.

I am now certain this is just a test cartridge used by Nintendo World Class Service repair centers (SRP = Service and RePair?), or perhaps a prototype of one. It even uses the same yellow-orange casing the more common "final" version did. If that's the case, it almost certainly has the final ROMs on it, and is nothing more than a curiosity at best. Certainly not worth the completely ridiculous six-figure price tag.

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Posted on 08-01-12 04:56:28 AM Link | Quote
From what I've been able to find, test cartridges use standard PCBs. The only exception is the port test, which looks like it was originally intended to test the EXP port. (I wonder if the ROM has any leftover code from those EXP port tests...)

I think it's actually a prototype SxROM cartridge. The MMC1 has a strange part number (LZ92A46) and a date code from November of 1986 (8647). The earliest known MMC1 chip in this database is from January of 1987.

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Posted on 08-10-12 08:59:42 AM Link | Quote

It seems there is a video on this prototype, but we learn nothing. Also, I do not know if it's true. Here is the link:

Youtube : Zelda NES Proto.wmv

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Posted on 08-10-12 03:38:48 PM Link | Quote
Not surprisingly it doesn't look any different from the final NA release, but it ended up selling for $55,000. A huge price downstep (by $95,000), but it's still a very, very high price even with the near-mint Legend of Zelda. I would think the two would probably cost $3,500 at the most. I feel pity for the person who bought this, since there's nothing much of value.
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line 437 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 489 column 92 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "97ACEF" and has been replaced
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line 621 column 974 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 747 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 747 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 747 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 756 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 761 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 209 column 651 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 733 column 191 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 737 column 671 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 741 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 744 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 207 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 236 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 262 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 288 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 316 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 347 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 616 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 645 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 673 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 731 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 367 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md