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Posted on 04-09-12 12:17:58 AM Link | Quote
Sorry for double-posting, but here are the screenshots of the images in that file, courtesy of Dark Linkael. Can someone familiar with the game figure out what these are and whether or not they're used?

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Posted on 04-09-12 07:56:43 PM Link | Quote
Here's what I see in those.

Buttons and control sticks for a Gamecube controller (on-screen controls for a demo?)

In-game menu (Tunic and sword icons, bugs, scents, poe souls, background images)

HUD

The flame graphic and some of the other patterns are a mystery, though.
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Posted on 04-11-12 04:06:50 AM Link | Quote
Image 11 looks almost like a recorder, ala Zelda 1.

Image 12 looks like a weird prologue screen, like the ones in Wind Waker? It could easily be a clothing pattern, as well.

Images 24-28 vaguely resembles the Kokiri Emerald. That's just me (I haven't played TP in forever, admittedly.)

38 Some kind of fabric texture?

42 looks like an ornamental design, it makes me think it'd fit on a menu screen somewhere. Same with 43.

39, 40, 44, 45, 46, look like they could be for a small map, but a very blocky one?

48. GUI arrow.

51. Again, Ornamental, maybe a menu piece somewhere.

52 Looks like a repeat of 12.

70 Looks like a giant part of a menu.
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Posted on 04-11-12 05:55:32 AM Link | Quote
I haven't played Twilight Princess in a long time, so I can't tell really tell if they are different from the final versions or unused at all. If it is in fact from E3, it would be worth comparing them with graphics from the final and looking up footage from trailers and floor demo recordings to see where the weirder graphis fit in.

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Posted on 07-15-12 06:26:21 PM (last edited by GlitterBerri at 07-15-12 06:30:41 PM) Link | Quote
Page 194 of Hyrule Historia has concept art of a creature very similar to this unused monster. It can also be seen in action here.

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Posted on 07-15-12 06:34:34 PM Link | Quote
It's definitely a beta version of the Shadow Beasts that make portals when defeated. They just cut the extra pair of arms before modeling it- perhaps for the better.

You know, I'm interested in seeing if the beta Shadow Beast can be loaded into the game. It seems to be very similar to the final monsters, so maybe it will load. I'll see about placing it in a map soon.
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Posted on 07-15-12 08:01:52 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gamma
You know, I'm interested in seeing if the beta Shadow Beast can be loaded into the game. It seems to be very similar to the final monsters, so maybe it will load. I'll see about placing it in a map soon.


If I were you, what I would do is just move all the files for the early shadow beast to where the files are for the final shadow beast. You have to make sure to rename files appropriately.
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Posted on 07-15-12 08:42:48 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cuber456


If I were you, what I would do is just move all the files for the early shadow beast to where the files are for the final shadow beast. You have to make sure to rename files appropriately.


I tried that, and the game threw a bunch of exceptions at me. Using XDaniel's actor editor (it works for both TWW and TP) to find the actor for the Shadow Beast reveals that the actor name is E_s1, despite the fact that the .arc with the final shadow beast is E_s2. Somewhere the game must redirect itself to E_s2. So at the moment, loading E_s1 isn't possible.
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Posted on 07-26-12 12:12:41 AM Link | Quote
Here is some material that someone could add to the main TP page. According to this page -> http://www.zeldawiki.org/Poe#Gallery <- there is apparently an early version of a Poe still within the final version of Twilight Princess. I don't know where but it is good material to add.

Here is the other task that should be done. Can someone go and dump the textures from the "Two Test Models" from the main TP page and maybe add them to the page? The textures on the first model is hard to see anyway and dumping them might make the textures more recognizable.
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Posted on 10-31-12 10:36:15 AM Link | Quote

I just looked at the file "Demo01_00.arc" in Twilight Princess and there are some very strange things... I'd like someone to check the animations of Link, because I do not remember the gestures.

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Posted on 10-31-12 08:08:48 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dark Linkaël
I just looked at the file "Demo01_00.arc" in Twilight Princess and there are some very strange things... I'd like someone to check the animations of Link, because I do not remember the gestures.
Speaking I've only played TP once, it is a little hard for me to say. I assume Demo01 is a cut scene arc and if that is the case then it is probably an early cut scene within the game. I will look at the animations in more depth later and compare them to this video.

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Posted on 10-31-12 09:09:31 PM Link | Quote
There's no way that cutscene can be used. Its STB file, which controls how the cutscene works, only has a camera section in it. Since no actors/models are called in the file, it couldn't run in-game.

Also, it might just be BMDViewer, but Link's animations look pretty rough.
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Posted on 10-31-12 09:16:30 PM Link | Quote

I do not think there is a link to the video of the cut scene. This is the next file. The file that I show is unique and does not seem to be a cut scene used.

I played several times at Twilight Princess, but much less than other Zelda. I am not a specialist of this game...

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Posted on 11-01-12 01:40:41 AM Link | Quote
Like I said, I only played TP once. Looking at the animations more closely, Link's animations don't look like they are used. I don't really remember a point in the game where he is sleeping, wakes up, looks at his hand(presumably there would be the triforce on it) and gets up. Plus it has the bmd of the so called early ghost soldier mentioned on the main page. Strange that it has no animations whatsoever. That combined with what Gamma said about it is impossible for this demo arc to play in game, I think it is safe to say that this cutscene, whatever it may have been, is unused.

I am assuming that the file structure of TP is the same as WW. If that is true then I think it safe to say that this cut scene would have played early within the game since it is "Demo01".

Gamma. Would it be possible to at least see how the camera goes through its movements in game? It might paint an interesting picture of what was suppose to happen in this cut scene specifically.

The other thing is that is this demo only in the GC version? What about the Wii version or the E3 demo? It *might* be possible that the demo is more intact in the E3 version of the game. I haven't checked myself so I don't know.

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Posted on 11-01-12 10:36:35 AM Link | Quote

These are the same files in the E3 2006 demo, it takes a much older version. E3 2005 demo for example!

I'm 80% sure this is a file containing unused things, but it takes a real confirmation. I do not remember Link whistles with his fingers and without grass...

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line 606 column 611 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 608 column 1006 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 608 column 1174 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 617 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 617 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 617 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 626 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 631 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 285 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 611 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 205 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 239 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 283 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 287 column 973 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 314 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 341 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 369 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 397 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 427 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 455 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 484 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 510 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 538 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 569 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 601 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 299 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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