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Posted on 06-07-12 05:14:03 AM (last edited by Peardian at 06-08-12 10:28:41 PM) Link | Quote
Thanks to M Moogle, I now have the Super Mario Sunshine playable demo from the 7th GameCube Kiosk Demo. Surprisingly, it seems the files are from quite late in production. In fact, almost everything is finalized. However, there are some juicy gems tucked inside:


-There's an archive named "TitleE3.arc". It's the only one on the disk that isn't double-compressed. As you'd expect, it contains the assets for the playable demo version at E3 2002, including an early design for the logo!

-The mysterious "message.szs" from the Japanese version is present, but its contents are gone.

-While all of the models and textures and such are exactly the same as in the final, I've noticed differences in the message files.

-This last one is just an observation. The only level files included are the ones that were at E3. The E3 mission select includes one Secret platforming stage, but the sky it shows in the preview is a bright blue sky. The one included is the standard starry train sky.



Also, how would this be classified on the Wiki? Would this be Proto: Super Mario Sunshine? After all, it's a demo from a kiosk disk.

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Posted on 06-07-12 07:45:23 AM Link | Quote
The Proto: psuedo-namespace (is it psuedo? I forget.) is for basically anything not the final release. See also the Chrono Trigger Pre-Release Demo, which is also under Proto:.

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Posted on 06-07-12 01:29:04 PM Link | Quote
Yay, very cool. I'll be looking forward to reading about more discoveries.
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Posted on 06-07-12 02:04:49 PM Link | Quote
I think it's the same demo you can find in the Interactive Multi Game Demo Disc 08 and in the AUS Multi Game Demo Disc 3 ( this two demos are the same). In the last one i found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LmdqoOdA_0

This video has some differences from the final version:
-the paint portal that leads Shadow Mario paints shows Ricco Harbor's image, not Bianco Hills, at 0:37;
-the police station has a blue coin instead of a minigame, it seems, at 0:50.;
-at 1:02, the M gives a regular coin instead of a blue one;
-the Gatekeeper flashes blue. at 1:38;
-Mario rides a green Yoshi with no juice.
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Posted on 06-08-12 06:32:13 PM (last edited by Peardian at 06-09-12 07:55:40 AM) Link | Quote
I've started adding contents to the page, such as the early logo and a message file completely in XML!


Edit: All dialogue changes added. I was wrong about there being new dialogue, I just didn't recognize some lines.


Update: After watching one of my friends play the demo, my investigation is now complete. The only other discovery I've made is that the first Episode of Bianco Hills is, in fact, unused in the demo. Both Bianco Hills options take place in Episode 2. So, sadly, that's as big as the article is going to get.

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Posted on 07-05-12 08:50:36 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
-There's an archive named "TitleE3.arc". It's the only one on the disk that isn't double-compressed. As you'd expect, it contains the assets for the playable demo version at E3 2002, including an early design for the logo!


Would it be possible that we could make a beta restoration based on these E3 2002 things?
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Posted on 07-06-12 09:38:28 PM Link | Quote
There really wouldn't be a point to that. The only significant difference is the minor dialogue tweaks, and most people wouldn't even realize those had been changed. Restoring the level select menu would limit you to only playing those few levels in the whole game, and for all the effort that would take, you might as well just play the demo.

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Posted on 07-07-12 07:37:00 PM (last edited by GlitterBerri at 07-07-12 07:37:24 PM) Link | Quote
Just a bump to note that I updated the translation of the weird train-related dialogue here. Hopefully it's more comprehensible now. I wonder if Sol Coins were akin to Shines and acted like the Stars you get in Super Mario 64 that give you access to more of the game as you progress?

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Posted on 07-08-12 07:47:54 AM (last edited by 989Nintendo898 at 07-08-12 07:57:06 AM) Link | Quote
OK. But where can i get that demo? I have only the Demo Disc 3 PAL/September 2002 one. Where could i get the Version 7?

And i didn't mean that. I ment that the beta would be restored on this demo disc iso instead of the final product.
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Posted on 07-08-12 05:54:33 PM Link | Quote
I'll send it to you. Of the Kiosk Demos, it's one the harder ones to find.


I don't really understand what you mean about restoration, then. The demo is the demo and it is on the demo disk. What's to restore?


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Originally posted by Peardian
I don't really understand what you mean about restoration, then. The demo is the demo and it is on the demo disk. What's to restore?


Well, i mean the Yoshi's original color (Green), old title screen graphics, etc. (and i know it's a fan-made beta restoration then).

BTW, the file you sent me is the promotional video from Demo Disc 7, not the game itself.
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Originally posted by 989Nintendo898
Well, i mean the Yoshi's original color (Green), old title screen graphics, etc. (and i know it's a fan-made beta restoration then).

Aside from the texture for the old title screen, those things aren't even in the demo. As I said, almost everything included is basically the final version of the game.

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Originally posted by Peardian
Aside from the texture for the old title screen, those things aren't even in the demo. As I said, almost everything included is basically the final version of the game.

Actually they are. While Yoshi isn't seen in the demo, his model is there and it's colored green. But still, i don't know is it the bmdview2's part.
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Yoshi's color is handled by shaders, since it changes so much. His model in the final game is green, too. You'd have to hack the files of the demo to see if he's colored properly, but judging by the state of the rest of the game, he will most likely still be colored when you hatch him.

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Do you have the files for the early title screen? What format are they in? Can you upload them?
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Yes, I already uploaded them to the page when I first made it. What you see on the article is basically all there is to see.

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line 569 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 579 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 586 column 437 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 589 column 1248 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 598 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 599 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 599 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 599 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 599 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 600 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 610 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 624 column 17 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 625 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 625 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 625 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 625 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 626 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 636 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 643 column 437 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 646 column 1086 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 657 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 657 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 657 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 666 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 671 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 179 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 309 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 375 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 461 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 527 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 586 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 643 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 651 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 654 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 194 column 1770 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 221 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 247 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 273 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 307 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 317 column 1215 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 344 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 373 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 377 column 952 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 404 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 431 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 459 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 467 column 831 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 494 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 525 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 530 column 1013 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 557 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 584 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 588 column 895 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 615 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 641 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 645 column 733 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 309 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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