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Posted on 07-08-12 12:02:49 PM (last edited by Eon at 07-08-12 12:15:43 PM) Link | Quote
See... The translation wasn't finished when its JPN release was put together. They left their progress on-disc intended not accessible due to region lock.

So here's what happens when you play the version on English consoles anyway. Without using that Action Replay code to force it back into Japanese.

There's many unused English save/load messages, menu text (Engrishy in places), FMV subtitles(!), pilot profiles, most notably missing menu/HUD/etc graphics.

Sorry about horrible photography. I don't yet have a backup to emulate.

Race end:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005994.jpg

Pause:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005993.jpg

Machine editor 1:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005992.jpg

Machine editor 2:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005991.jpg

Pilot profile 1:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005990.jpg

Pilot profile 2:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005989.jpg

Pre-race machine setup:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005987.jpg

Pre-race loading custom machine:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005986.jpg

English subtitles:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005985.jpg

"please choice":
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005984.jpg

mode select:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/theclaw/special/fzero%20gx/P0005983.jpg

This last one isn't mine but play-asia has videos comparing the console settings.
http://www.play-asia.com/FZero_GX_bnotb_100_compatible_with_Datels_Freeloader_screenshots_videos_inside/paOS-17-71-1g-74-8y-49-en.html

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Posted on 07-08-12 03:23:23 PM Link | Quote
I wonder if any other titles for the Gamecube have a similar thing accessible (I know Pikmin 2 has an incomplete English translation, but I don't think that's accessible).
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Posted on 07-08-12 03:53:04 PM (last edited by Eon at 07-08-12 05:07:41 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by divingkataetheweirdo
I wonder if any other titles for the Gamecube have a similar thing accessible (I know Pikmin 2 has an incomplete English translation, but I don't think that's accessible).


I think so. We need to check Star Fox Adventures, from what little I've gathered it might be dual text.

Update: It's real. New topic created to show.
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=15330

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Posted on 07-09-12 06:34:32 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by divingkataetheweirdo
I wonder if any other titles for the Gamecube have a similar thing accessible (I know Pikmin 2 has an incomplete English translation, but I don't think that's accessible).

Not a GameCube title, but the Dragon Quest IV remake on the DS has a rather length english script in the Japanese release. Text that wasn't in the original game, but added in the remake, remains untranslated, but the text shared between the NES and DS release is translated, albeit not properly aligned sometimes during dialogue!
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Posted on 07-09-12 11:43:19 AM Link | Quote


>>ESTABLISHING LINK...DONE.    >>FETCHING POST DATA...DONE.    >>EXECUTING POSTDISP.BIN...


Another DS game also had a very incomplete English "script" that mostly consisted of romanized Japanese, excluding some translated menus, IIRC... the DS Card Hero maybe?

And of course there's also the case of Ocarina of Time, where the US and Japanese releases are identical except for one byte in the header, and can be forced into the other mode via GameShark.


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Posted on 07-09-12 01:57:20 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by xdaniel
Another DS game also had a very incomplete English "script" that mostly consisted of romanized Japanese, excluding some translated menus, IIRC... the DS Card Hero maybe?

And of course there's also the case of Ocarina of Time, where the US and Japanese releases are identical except for one byte in the header, and can be forced into the other mode via GameShark.


That could be useful. Languages are pretty extensive cut content potentially worthy of inclusion.

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Posted on 07-09-12 03:54:20 PM (last edited by xdaniel at 07-09-12 04:47:11 PM) Link | Quote


>>ESTABLISHING LINK...DONE.    >>FETCHING POST DATA...DONE.    >>EXECUTING POSTDISP.BIN...


Kousoku Card Battle: Card Hero (NDS), "English" main options menu, player data, game settings and beginning of the story... after which the game hangs, presumably because it can't read the remaining text (which is there, in untranslated but romanized form) or whatever. The game has to be in Kanji mode for this to show up, by the way. Depends on the way this is accessed

Also, the "Wordfrompartner." is actually supposed to be text spoken by that character, as opposed to some generic message, and they never properly translated it. Not to mention the game has problems with ASCII spaces, and doesn't do automatic line breaks, as the first message is supposed to be "Data is confirmed and it is possible to change." going by the data files.

Gonna add this to the wiki, I guess? Done.




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Posted on 07-09-12 08:48:21 PM (last edited by Eon at 07-09-12 08:49:05 PM) Link | Quote
Ouch. What an unusual point to stop, or so we know about.

Speaking of humorous lines. That one F-Zero pic saying "By stick LR." is a little funny.

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Posted on 07-10-12 11:28:42 PM Link | Quote
Does Phoenix go by his beta name (Sherlock)?
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Posted on 07-11-12 06:44:36 AM (last edited by Eon at 07-11-12 06:46:14 AM) Link | Quote
I don't know. With the menus broken (no race results screen and such), I'd have to play enough to unlock his character profile to see a name. IIRC that means completing the right story mode level at very hard difficulty. Good luck just unlocking those. As the shop to buy chapters I'm pretty sure wouldn't be visible.

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Posted on 07-11-12 07:08:48 AM Link | Quote
Well, there's the possibilty of looking into the game's files for text, but I've never actually handled the game's ISO, so I have no idea how it is structured or compressed.

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Posted on 07-11-12 10:51:05 AM (last edited by Gamma at 07-11-12 10:52:53 AM) Link | Quote
Well, there's the possibilty of looking into the game's files for text, but I've never actually handled the game's ISO, so I have no idea how it is structured or compressed.


You can extract files from Gamecube ISOs with GCRebuilder. I'm not sure about compression, though.
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Posted on 07-11-12 08:54:44 PM Link | Quote
Unfortunately now that an ISO has surfaced, there's two problems.

I'm not sure how to get screenshots of English mode. Dolphin defaults to "correct" region for Japanese games. (despite having an option to force English games into NTSC-J console)

The game's Japan version ran awful for me. Crashing the emulator right at the Nintendo/Sega logo on usual settings! 'Interpreter' emulation core lets it run, but so slow to be unusable...

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line 452 column 111 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 452 column 160 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 478 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 478 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 478 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 489 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 493 column 90 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "7C60B0" and has been replaced
line 496 column 1616 - Warning: <td> anchor "lotoptd" already defined
line 496 column 1643 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 496 column 1757 - Warning: <td> anchor "lolefttd" already defined
line 496 column 1780 - Warning: <td> anchor "lomaintd" already defined
line 496 column 2186 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 496 column 2382 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 496 column 2506 - Warning: <td> anchor "lobottomtd" already defined
line 496 column 2536 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 505 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 515 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 535 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 535 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 535 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 536 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 546 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 550 column 92 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "97ACEF" and has been replaced
line 562 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 563 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 563 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 563 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 563 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 574 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 581 column 1616 - Warning: <td> anchor "lotoptd" already defined
line 581 column 1643 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 581 column 1757 - Warning: <td> anchor "lolefttd" already defined
line 581 column 1780 - Warning: <td> anchor "lomaintd" already defined
line 585 column 2323 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 585 column 2519 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 585 column 2610 - Warning: <td> anchor "lorighttd" already defined
line 585 column 2643 - Warning: <td> anchor "lobottomtd" already defined
line 585 column 2673 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 594 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 594 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 594 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 603 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 608 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 522 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 588 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 591 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 179 column 141 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 245 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 271 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 302 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 329 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 367 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 398 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 440 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 468 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 494 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 520 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 524 column 782 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 551 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 579 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 333 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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