Register - Login
Views: 99326968
Main - Memberlist - Active users - Calendar - Wiki - IRC Chat - Online users
Ranks - Rules/FAQ - Stats - Latest Posts - Color Chart - Smilies
04-21-22 09:34:09 AM
Jul - General Chat - a new youtube series stealing tcrf info New poll - New thread - Thread closed
Pages: 1 2Next newer thread | Next older thread
Gabu

Star Mario
Placeholder Ikachan until :effort: is found
Level: 172


Posts: 8385/9981
EXP: 67902367
For next: 199867

Since: 08-10-09

Pronouns: they/them, she/her
From: Santa Cruisin' USA

Since last post: 44 days
Last activity: 5 days

Posted on 06-29-12 09:30:45 PM Link
I admit I was pretty harsh, to be honest. Sorry, man.

____________________
Girlydragon
3030
Possibly neither Girly nor Dragon.
Level: 105


Posts: 2520/3030
EXP: 12242646
For next: 19614

Since: 07-21-07

From: Sweden

Since last post: 271 days
Last activity: 57 min.

Posted on 06-29-12 09:33:27 PM Link
We all have the ability to be a little over-excitable and bandwagony at times.

It leads both to some of our worst, and best moments.



With that said, I don't really have much of an opinion on the information he "stole" as I don't regularly read the wiki and even less contribute, but as long as he doesn't propose that he found it himself?


He might try and get his moment in his spotlight if he really wants.


*Girlydragon shrugs

____________________
Elemi
370
"ban me or whatever"

Okay, bye, please don't push your antivax shit here
Level: 42


Posts: 191/379
EXP: 485093
For next: 36269

Since: 06-20-10

Pronouns: She/her
From: Hyperspace

Since last post: 3.1 years
Last activity: 2.3 years

Posted on 06-29-12 09:37:11 PM Link
The only thing that ever stays the same is change!


Total Posts: 191
Total Days: 739


Well, on a serious note, information on games being used by others is fine in pretty much all cases as it doesn't really belong to anyone, the exceptions in my opinion would include text based walkthroughs, guides, etc.

Should probably add a fair usage license (usage is okay but credit should be left) for anything DIRECTLY used from TCRF.

Originally posted by ampersand
thank you for unlocking my thread, whoever did it. im sorry for the derail by a couple of users, and my reaction to it, im not used to dealing with trolls. i guess i was annoyed because they are saying that they dont care, which is fine, but some people might care because its their research and time spent getting stolen. so please dont be disrespectful in my thread and derail it, if you dont care about the subject, YOU DONT HAVE TO POST. thanks.
anyway, thank you for your opinion xkeeper, i didnt even realize that he was mixing in false information along with things he stole. thats really low.

Yeah, sorry, I'm just really depressed today...

____________________
Gabu

Star Mario
Placeholder Ikachan until :effort: is found
Level: 172


Posts: 8386/9981
EXP: 67902367
For next: 199867

Since: 08-10-09

Pronouns: they/them, she/her
From: Santa Cruisin' USA

Since last post: 44 days
Last activity: 5 days

Posted on 06-29-12 09:37:32 PM Link
Originally posted by Girlydragon
With that said, I don't really have much of an opinion on the information he "stole" as I don't regularly read the wiki and even less contribute, but as long as he doesn't propose that he found it himself?


I think we'd all have an issue if the guy went up and said that he found this information by himself. Plus it's a simple Google search to find hidden game content, so anyone who wants to know more information would end up going to Bulbapedia, TCRF, etc., etc.

I should have said everything like this in the first place though.


____________________
ampersand
Random nobody
Level: 8


Posts: 7/9
EXP: 1616
For next: 571

Since: 06-29-12


Since last post: 9.8 years
Last activity: 7.6 years

Posted on 06-29-12 09:44:59 PM Link
well if he doesnt want to look arrogant and a thief, all he needs to do is add a citation in the description or the video. and it still gets under my skin that he is using ads to make money off the information other people collected.
i wouldnt have given any craps if it wasnt for the ads, myself.
Peardian

  
Magikoopa

16/3/1: KvSG #479 is up!

Level: 157


Posts: 6092/7596
EXP: 48539645
For next: 1039588

Since: 08-02-07

From: Isle Delfino

Since last post: 7 days
Last activity: 19 hours

Posted on 06-29-12 09:54:42 PM Link
The guy's not the best at research, but the video does look pretty decent. I was expecting something like screenshots, but he actually went and got/made videos of the content in action.

I'm not too sure if the info comes directly from TCRF. He mentions Bulbapedia quite a bit, and even shows screenshots of pages and tables from it. In fact, considering the box art was also from Bulbapedia, I'm going to guess that was his main source, and not us.

____________________
-Peardian-

"Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see." -Mark Twain


Rick
M'Lord, there's a knife in your head!
Level: 152


Posts: 6093/7539
EXP: 43654797
For next: 646863

Since: 02-15-10

From: Maine

Since last post: 110 days
Last activity: 42 days

Posted on 06-29-12 10:09:11 PM Link
I'd also say take a look at his other videos and see what kinds of stuff he has there.

Hmm. Maybe my idea for a TCRF magazine thing could be back on. I dunno, it seems like a cool idea to me! Then again, I always like tangible things...

____________________


_______________________
| 6093 | 13907 | 865 | 16 |
Gabu

Star Mario
Placeholder Ikachan until :effort: is found
Level: 172


Posts: 8387/9981
EXP: 67902367
For next: 199867

Since: 08-10-09

Pronouns: they/them, she/her
From: Santa Cruisin' USA

Since last post: 44 days
Last activity: 5 days

Posted on 06-29-12 10:21:50 PM Link
Or maybe a TCRF channel that covers all the latest discoveries and stuff? I would understand the magazine if it were an e-zine or something, to be honest. I mean unless we get some sort of awesome funding to make a paper magazine happen and all...

Unless you were actually referring to an e-zine, in which case I feel stupid.

____________________
Rick
M'Lord, there's a knife in your head!
Level: 152


Posts: 6094/7539
EXP: 43654797
For next: 646863

Since: 02-15-10

From: Maine

Since last post: 110 days
Last activity: 42 days

Posted on 06-29-12 10:56:55 PM (last edited by Rick at 06-29-12 10:57:33 PM) Link
Maybe not so much a magazine as a printed publication on some kind of annunal-ish basis.

We could probably have it printed at some kind of "print anything" company like lulu.com or something like that. It probably would help to find some layout design software as well. I need to get my hands on a copy of InDesign again sometime, but I'm sure there's some program out there that would trump that.

I figure the publication could fully focus on one, two...maaaaaaaaybe three games per issue. It all depends on how much research people would want to do.

____________________


_______________________
| 6094 | 13906 | 865 | 16 |
Vinnyboiler
Catgirl
Level: 66


Posts: 929/1044
EXP: 2439179
For next: 22672

Since: 12-27-07

From: London, England

Since last post: 4 days
Last activity: 13 hours

Posted on 06-29-12 11:57:53 PM Link



Originally posted by ampersand
well if he doesnt want to look arrogant and a thief, all he needs to do is add a citation in the description or the video. and it still gets under my skin that he is using ads to make money off the information other people collected.
i wouldnt have given any craps if it wasnt for the ads, myself.


Sorry mate, you should of mentioned the money part in your opening post.

The reason I was laxed about it was because as a Wiki the goal for TCRF would be to spread more infomation and share more insight then to promote it's own name. And I assume we get more noticed and popular by being the reliable, legit and by being the primary source of infomation.

Plus there's only so far you can go with only information your given than with info you found yourself.

____________________




Look in my eyes/What do you see?/The cult of personality// I know your anger, I know your dreams/I've been everything you want to be/Oh, I'm the cult of personality

~ Cult Of Personality - Living Colour


Gabu

Star Mario
Placeholder Ikachan until :effort: is found
Level: 172


Posts: 8389/9981
EXP: 67902367
For next: 199867

Since: 08-10-09

Pronouns: they/them, she/her
From: Santa Cruisin' USA

Since last post: 44 days
Last activity: 5 days

Posted on 06-30-12 12:46:02 AM Link
Originally posted by Rick
Maybe not so much a magazine as a printed publication on some kind of annunal-ish basis.

We could probably have it printed at some kind of "print anything" company like lulu.com or something like that. It probably would help to find some layout design software as well. I need to get my hands on a copy of InDesign again sometime, but I'm sure there's some program out there that would trump that.

I figure the publication could fully focus on one, two...maaaaaaaaybe three games per issue. It all depends on how much research people would want to do.


Ahhh. That'd be much more manageable, then.

Also the big two programs are InDesign and Quark. I've actually had a school project getting an 8 page magazine together with a group, so I have some experience on getting it all together, if it brings anything to the table.

____________________
Enig
Member
Level: 34


Posts: 239/240
EXP: 234272
For next: 19379

Since: 06-08-11

From: CITY HATRACK

Since last post: 9.8 years
Last activity: 9.8 years

Posted on 06-30-12 02:15:05 AM Link
'Net radio program with picture feed within it for visuals. Just either set up our own or jump onto someone else's, e.g. eden.m3u.



____________________
Cyber razor cut, sir?
To be this good takes AGES.
To be this good takes lods of emone.
DarkMatt

Level: 10


Posts: 2/15
EXP: 3483
For next: 931

Since: 06-17-12


Since last post: 6.6 years
Last activity: 6.6 years

Posted on 06-30-12 08:13:47 AM Link
Oh, unmarked information happens everyday. Hell, I just came back from the ROM hacking forum to find an interesting tale of someone bootlegging Parallel Worlds. But seriously, for this specifically, why care, or pursue the matter? I'm asking because of your opinion, because I don't think you would've brought this up and responded in the way you posted if you didn't care at all.

Stuff like this isn't like the corporations of the entertainment industry that would go all-out against someone at the drop of a hat if they had the means to do so. (And it was worth it.) Something as minuscular as information from a public wiki isn't the sort of thing that should have source reference be a concern. (Course, mind you, it's never cool to claim sources as your own. You don't want to be part of the problem that brought forth copyrights.)

Just remember, quoting sources isn't mandatory, but it sure as hell is encouraged. This doesn't mean we should be hounding people to give credit.

Oh, and don't get so easily offended. Much less get easily offended because you garnered disgust due to how near-sighted your remarks were.

Oh, and trolls aren't people that disagree with you harshly. Don't make that mistake.
krutomisi
2480
Level: 94


Posts: 2030/2481
EXP: 8254479
For next: 102178

Since: 02-01-10


Since last post: 229 days
Last activity: 169 days

Posted on 06-30-12 02:08:27 PM Link

Originally posted by DarkMatt
Just remember, quoting sources isn't mandatory, but it sure as hell is encouraged. This doesn't mean we should be hounding people to give credit.


bro ever heard of plagiarism?

like taking other's work and presenting it as your own plagiarism.


plagiarism plagiarism.

____________________



2030 / 46 / yo yo rate this fine peace of work / 879
Rydia
270
good riddance!
Level: 36


Posts: 271/278
EXP: 282525
For next: 25585

Since: 02-18-12

From: Mist

Since last post: 9.8 years
Last activity: 9.6 years

Posted on 06-30-12 02:27:18 PM Link
Originally posted by Ijah



Lol Reggie.

____________________
ampersand
Random nobody
Level: 8


Posts: 8/9
EXP: 1616
For next: 571

Since: 06-29-12


Since last post: 9.8 years
Last activity: 7.6 years

Posted on 06-30-12 04:48:36 PM Link
Originally posted by DarkMatt
But seriously, for this specifically, why care, or pursue the matter? I'm asking because of your opinion, because I don't think you would've brought this up and responded in the way you posted if you didn't care at all.
to answer this, and then the part i cut out, i care because theyre making money off of other people's hard work without even having the decency to do something we were all taught to do in elementary school. citing your sources that you used from your research, or you get an f. this web series should get an f, not make money.


Originally posted by DarkMatt
Oh, and don't get so easily offended. Much less get easily offended because you garnered disgust due to how near-sighted your remarks were.

Oh, and trolls aren't people that disagree with you harshly. Don't make that mistake.

please do go on about my comments being near-sighted i seem to lack the perception to figure out how you came to that conclusion
and the people i considered trolling in this thread were two people and they knew who they were and apologized. youre kind of late on that boat with that one, maybe you should clean your glasses off and reread the thread?(was that harsh? probably, but that cant be trolling right?)
DarkMatt

Level: 10


Posts: 5/15
EXP: 3483
For next: 931

Since: 06-17-12


Since last post: 6.6 years
Last activity: 6.6 years

Posted on 06-30-12 07:52:07 PM (last edited by DarkMatt at 06-30-12 07:53:41 PM) Link
I don't think your elementary school told you how little people care. (Mine didn't.)

And you shouldn't either. You're just going to hurt yourself.

I personally like that you completely miss the message from that second quote, and instead want to bite back at me because ooh, I shouldn't be talking to you like this if I'm not entirely right, oooooh.

It's just friendly advice, buddy. I'm not making fun of you.

Might not want to post again if it's just going to be "YEAH WELL FUCK YOU."
ampersand
Random nobody
Level: 8


Posts: 9/9
EXP: 1616
For next: 571

Since: 06-29-12


Since last post: 9.8 years
Last activity: 7.6 years

Posted on 06-30-12 08:47:04 PM Link
Originally posted by DarkMatt
I don't think your elementary school told you how little people care. (Mine didn't.)

And you shouldn't either. You're just going to hurt yourself.

I personally like that you completely miss the message from that second quote, and instead want to bite back at me because ooh, I shouldn't be talking to you like this if I'm not entirely right, oooooh.

It's just friendly advice, buddy. I'm not making fun of you.

Might not want to post again if it's just going to be "YEAH WELL FUCK YOU."

if you dont care you dont have to post dont threadcrap for no reason :___)
glad you admit youre not entirely right, at least thats in the ball park. im still waiting for you to explain how my posts were nearsighted. or did you just spout that off in a lame attempt to rile me? you seem to be able to dish it, but not take it. you are the one who budged into this thread rudely a day after everybody already settled their differences and actually began using this topic as a springboard of discussion instead of stating how apathetic they are. heres some friendly advice; nobody cares that you dont care. that adds nothing to the discussion, and if youre just going to post in threads to crap in them, think first, and then dont. if you think this post is a "yeah well fuck you", get over yourself, and quit your mightier than thou are attitude, its unwarranted and unwanted. im sick of arguing with people in this thread over their lack of caring. thats not what the thread is for. got it? good.
Rachel Mae

Creature of Chaos
Level: 141


Posts: 5075/5929
EXP: 33567040
For next: 552974

Since: 07-03-07

Pronouns: she/her
From: Foxglen

Since last post: 9 days
Last activity: 2 days

Posted on 06-30-12 09:00:29 PM Link
Originally posted by BMF54123
I don't even know how this thread became such a trainwreck, but it's going to stop right now.

Apparently this is a really difficult concept for some people to grasp, so I'm just going to put this thread out of its misery. Sorry it had to come to this.

____________________
Pages: 1 2Next newer thread | Next older thread
Jul - General Chat - a new youtube series stealing tcrf info New poll - New thread - Thread closed


Rusted Logic

Acmlmboard - commit 47be4dc [2021-08-23]
©2000-2022 Acmlm, Xkeeper, Kaito Sinclaire, et al.

33 database queries, 6 query cache hits.
Query execution time: 0.088007 seconds
Script execution time: 0.031082 seconds
Total render time: 0.119089 seconds