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Posted on 05-12-12 08:50:06 PM Link | Quote
I noticed driver for Ps1 is not in the wiki even though it has an unused map (Newcastle i think). Its only seen in the Credits but can be played by using a gameshark code. Its used in the PC version though.
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Posted on 05-12-12 09:22:46 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by SamuelEarl666
I noticed driver for Ps1 is not in the wiki even though it has an unused map (Newcastle i think). Its only seen in the Credits but can be played by using a gameshark code. Its used in the PC version though.


Then.... add it? (This isn't even the first time you've been told that)
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Posted on 05-13-12 04:34:41 AM Link | Quote
I've been finding quite a few discoveries in Super Mario Sunshine! Early level designs for Ricco Harbor and Sirena Beach(?) via pollution maps, a new unused goop texture, and unused animations for Bloopad.

Though, I could use some help. Could someone with experience in wikitables make a three-item comparison for the Ricco Harbor pollution maps? The gallery I have there is just a temporary solution.

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Posted on 05-14-12 09:30:15 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 05-14-12 09:31:18 PM) Link | Quote
I think I broke the wiki. :p

I uploaded some replacement images for Street Slam, and one of the files was uploaded incorrectly - right after it was uploaded I got a 500 Catastrophe.

"Street Slam (Neo-Geo) - JP Teams.png" refuses to show up in the Neo-Geo screenshots category for some reason. Maybe deleting and reuploading it might work? I dunno.



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Posted on 05-14-12 09:47:19 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Foxhack
I think I broke the wiki. :p

I uploaded some replacement images for Street Slam, and one of the files was uploaded incorrectly - right after it was uploaded I got a 500 Catastrophe.

"Street Slam (Neo-Geo) - JP Teams.png" refuses to show up in the Neo-Geo screenshots category for some reason. Maybe deleting and reuploading it might work? I dunno.



I've had this happen a couple of times. Simply press the edit button (or create a new page for the image) and the categorization, if it doesn't get added due to some strange issue.
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Posted on 05-14-12 10:19:34 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 05-14-12 10:23:33 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by divingkataetheweirdo
I've had this happen a couple of times. Simply press the edit button (or create a new page for the image) and the categorization, if it doesn't get added due to some strange issue.

I tried that, it didn't work.

Edit: Or maybe it didn't take. Weird. Thanks for fixing the file, sorry for the bother.

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Posted on 05-15-12 10:02:19 AM Link | Quote
I've been told when i find something i should make a new page but:
1. i have no idea how to do that.
2. i won't be able to put anything in the article since i don't have a good enough computer to emulate most games.

If it weren't for these problems there would be more ps1 articles.

Also, The cheat system i use for the ps1 can view a snapshot of the screen you were last on and the textures loaded at that time, I was playing Die hard trilogy 2 and i'm sure i saw Button icons for an xbox controller (A and B to be exact) which would be good if true since the game was never released on Xbox.
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Posted on 05-15-12 03:06:33 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 05-15-12 03:07:09 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by SamuelEarl666
I've been told when i find something i should make a new page but:
1. i have no idea how to do that.
2. i won't be able to put anything in the article since i don't have a good enough computer to emulate most games.

If it weren't for these problems there would be more ps1 articles.

Also, The cheat system i use for the ps1 can view a snapshot of the screen you were last on and the textures loaded at that time, I was playing Die hard trilogy 2 and i'm sure i saw Button icons for an xbox controller (A and B to be exact) which would be good if true since the game was never released on Xbox.


1: Go to a random page, click on the address bar on your browser, replace the name of the game you're in for something else, then press Enter. Voila, a new page you can edit.

2: So? There's a lot of articles in the wiki that are nothing but plain text without images. As long as your explanation is good enough (and true!), someone will come along and expand upon it sooner or later.

As for the Xbox thing, are you sure they aren't Saturn buttons? The Xbox wasn't around during the PS1 era.

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Posted on 05-15-12 05:05:37 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Foxhack
As for the Xbox thing, are you sure they aren't Saturn buttons? The Xbox wasn't around during the PS1 era.

I've did some research and noticed that the first die hard trilogy was cancelled for the Nintendo 64 so the unused buttons are very likely from that controller. It would make sense to cancel the 2nd game if the first one was cancelled as well or they could be leftovers from the first game.
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Posted on 05-15-12 05:58:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by SamuelEarl666
I've did some research and noticed that the first die hard trilogy was cancelled for the Nintendo 64 so the unused buttons are very likely from that controller. It would make sense to cancel the 2nd game if the first one was cancelled as well or they could be leftovers from the first game.

Well Die Hard Trilogy 1 was by Probe Software, and 2 was by n-Space. They have very little in common... I doubt they used the same codebase, but I dunno.

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Posted on 05-23-12 12:02:36 AM Link | Quote
I've made so many discoveries in Super Mario Sunshine! It feels wonderful!

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Posted on 05-24-12 12:58:46 AM Link | Quote
Now that bob (apparently) supports being screenless, would it be worthwhile to use them for prototypes with unused content?

If anything it would make it possible to categorize prototypes for the couple of games where the release version doesn't have an article (though in that case, a bob with a title screen could work also)

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Posted on 05-27-12 03:53:34 PM Link | Quote
Just wondering - why are demo versions listed as prototypes on the wiki?

I happen to have a few early versions of Sierra games from an officially released demo disc and I'm not sure how to add any differences I find to the wiki.

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Posted on 05-27-12 07:11:59 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Foxhack
Just wondering - why are demo versions listed as prototypes on the wiki?

I happen to have a few early versions of Sierra games from an officially released demo disc and I'm not sure how to add any differences I find to the wiki.


Several demos are based on prototypes; Sometimes, they have content that isn't present in the final version (such as the unused maps in the Mario Kart DS kiosk demo-thing).

Simply add a Proto: (Insert game's name here) page for your demo content, and you're more or less set
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Posted on 05-28-12 12:57:43 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, there's no reason to have separate "demo" and "proto" categories, because any demos that are worth documenting on the wiki ARE prototypes, in some form or another.

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Posted on 05-28-12 01:51:25 AM Link | Quote
Demos are just prototypes that solicit customer feedback prior to release.
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Posted on 05-28-12 08:32:51 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 05-30-12 04:21:07 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by GuyPurrrfect
Demos are just prototypes that solicit customer feedback prior to release.

What's funny is that the demo I'm looking into actually says that it's an early version sent out to people so they can do tweaks before the game ships. Imagine that.

There's actually a huge list of differences on this particular game already, I just want to work on the stuff and double check stuff so I can document and verify everything rather than just swiping content from that site.

Edit: I forgot to mention the game - Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers. I'm combing through the demo's data files using a program called "SCI Resource Viewer". There's some neat stuff in here, I just need to double check that they're not in the retail version. The intro cutscene's somewhat different and the intro music is as well. Too bad it's in MIDI format... which sounds like crap on my sound card.

Edit edit: Main entry done. I stumbled upon more stuff while looking into the game but that's going on the backburner for now.

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Hello all! I added my first article to the wiki today, beatmania IIDX 15, and I had some questions.

There are some rather large sprite sheets related to the unused screens from the location test of IIDX GOLD, I added a selection of these images, pertaining mainly to translated items for the test.. Other than the translated texts I already added to the article, everything else is more or less leftover original graphics from IIDX14(but still not used anywhere in DJ TROOPERS.) Would these be worth adding, or are they more or less fluff?

Okay, I guess it was the one question.
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Posted on 06-01-12 05:26:49 AM Link | Quote
I'm kinda iffy on adding that stuff for games like this. When a series has that many entries, all based on the same code, naturally some assets are going to be carried over from previous versions once in a while.

The localized stuff you added, though, is perfectly fine.

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Posted on 06-01-12 06:21:16 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 06-01-12 06:21:43 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by BMF54123
I'm kinda iffy on adding that stuff for games like this. When a series has that many entries, all based on the same code, naturally some assets are going to be carried over from previous versions once in a while.

The localized stuff you added, though, is perfectly fine.


Now he tells me.

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line 744 column 92 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "97ACEF" and has been replaced
line 751 column 626 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 751 column 626 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 760 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 760 column 245 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 769 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 774 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 233 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 485 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 754 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 203 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 231 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 237 column 1047 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 264 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 296 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 330 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 359 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 391 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 429 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 456 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 483 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 542 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 745 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 377 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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