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Posted on 03-12-12 05:46:31 PM (last edited by Reshiram at 03-12-12 02:48 PM) Link | Quote
Possibility doesn't dictate what you can do.
Originally posted by BMF54123
That's a pretty lame solution, considering GIFs can only have 256 colors, and most NSFW stuff tends to exceed that. And what about grownups who want to view the content immediately?

Not to mention it defeats the point of hiding it anyway if it will get displayed if you read everything before the image.

Really now, clicking on a thumbnail probably is the better solution, I'd think. (As just saying "HEY NSFW BELOW scrolled too fast? not my problem!" isn't really convenient either) Making it fancier or whatever... would be pointless and an unnecessary hassle. The point is to just not show it unless the reader wants to see it.
I just ask if for some reason wiki software is stupid and doesn't let an image link to something else.

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Posted on 03-12-12 06:31:24 PM Link | Quote
"The tcrf.net lawyer has informed us that we need a warning! So.. if you are under the age of 18 or find this photograph offensive, please don't look at it. Thank you!"

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Posted on 03-12-12 06:35:40 PM Link | Quote
If the image really warrants a lot of NSFW, could just do what was done with the GTA: San Andreas pic of the Hot Coffee thing.

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Posted on 03-12-12 07:31:46 PM Link | Quote
But that's censorship, and I'd be curious to see what the offending content was.
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Posted on 03-12-12 07:47:14 PM Link | Quote
I guess it'd be okay if the censored image was a clickable link to the real image.

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Posted on 03-12-12 08:35:55 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kazinsal
Alternately, a bit of JavaScript could allow a hover-over reveal of the image in question.

this seems like the most practical solution so far, honestly
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Posted on 03-12-12 08:40:32 PM Link | Quote
Possibility doesn't dictate what you can do.
I still say something like this


along words words words words words words words words words words


would be simple enough. Maybe also tag the screenshot with {{NSFW}} and add fancy filters or something.


I guess another option would be simply point out WHERE in the game is it and not necessarialy illustrate the content, but I'd guess that wouldn't work.

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Posted on 03-12-12 08:40:48 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Keitaro
Originally posted by Kazinsal
Alternately, a bit of JavaScript could allow a hover-over reveal of the image in question.

this seems like the most practical solution so far, honestly

It'd be nice too if we could have some kind of profile option to always show NSFW content. (Like, a wiki extension or something?)

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Posted on 03-12-12 09:27:40 PM Link | Quote
Why aren't se just putting a box at the top with "NSFW content below"?

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Posted on 03-12-12 10:04:12 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Why aren't se just putting a box at the top with "NSFW content below"?


Apparently it'd be too simple?

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Posted on 03-12-12 10:07:47 PM Link | Quote
It would work.

I don't see a problem with it.

So why not?

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Posted on 03-12-12 11:14:02 PM Link | Quote
I've bounced this idea around my idea more times than there are stars in the sky and I think that, after serious consideration, I've come to a position on this topic.

Putting any of these "NSFW tag" ideas into effect would mark an extremely tragic turn for TCRF. I'll try to detail why it's such a bad idea in the paragraphs below.

Doing this would be drawing a line where no line should be drawn. What would be "too NSFW," or at least explicit enough to waiver the little box? Would doing this encourage people to search for explicit stuff in games, and dump it all on TCRF? I'm not saying that this kind of content is a bad idea; rather, any content is positive content; but can you imagine what several pages bearing NSFW tags, boxes, etc everywhere would look like? It'd make us look more like a hub for hidden video game smut more than anything else. Upon plastering pages with "NSFW", the administrators would more than likely screen for things that would be considered too explicit - and where would you draw the line there? Are we going to start putting boxes on every page that has the word "fuck" on it? Are we simply going to "turn down" people who have content that the admins don't consider "proper" enough to be included?

You'd be alienating your audiences - and, with a wiki, your viewers are your contributors. It's a slippery slope, and everyone seems to be eager to go running head first down it. I can personally cite a conversation that took place inside of #tcrf, where a handful of people were complaining about the amount of articles based on games made with Adobe Flash. I can remember the general consensus that the majority came to, which was that in a community based resource - and in any case, really - you can't choose to act upon something, if something else is doing the exact same thing. If you're going to put a NSFW tag on one thing, well, you might as well do it on every page that includes things that are NSFW! Right? Right?

Not to mention the fact that doing this would be contradicting the very ideals of the site itself, one of them being to bring censored or cut things to light. And then we turn around and censor the very content that we just "un-censored?" What?

My opinion? Put the content in, as it is. Who are we really protecting? Are we protecting the kids, who, in all honestly, shouldn't be reading an article about Splatterhouse in the first place?

I apologize for my strong feelings on the subject, but I felt that I needed to get out my opinions.
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Posted on 03-12-12 11:17:50 PM (last edited by Bagel at 03-12-12 08:18 PM) Link | Quote
How about a disclaimer on the front page that tcrf may not always be the best site to view when at work, and that you should probably just go home first.

People should be responsible for themselves.

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Posted on 03-12-12 11:29:49 PM (last edited by sister miyagi at 03-12-12 08:30 PM) Link | Quote
Why do people think putting NSFW warnings on pages would make people look exclusively for NSFW content to find? Why would having a NSFW template turn NSFW content into OMG HOT XXXX PRONS HERE? I agree it might be hard to define a line for what's NSFW and what's not, but if the Supreme Court knows it when they see it, I'm sure we can too

Yet another suggestion: put a disclaimer on the main page saying something along the lines of "There may be boobies on some of these pages so don't browse this site at work if your boss votes Republican!" That way it's up to the individual if they ding their work's web filter or whatever.

Edit: Probably should've read Bagel's post before posting mine...
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Posted on 03-12-12 11:35:32 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BlueWhirl
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I think you're being a bit paranoid.

My biggest concern is people browsing the wiki at work, or in a public place, or with other family members around, unaware that such content even exists. I don't want anyone getting in trouble, and a NSFW tag is just common courtesy in many places on the Internet.

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Posted on 03-13-12 12:02:55 AM Link | Quote
Perhaps I should clarify what I meant when I said that I didn't want "NSFW tags" on the website. Many of the ideas suggested include flashy, annoying, or otherwise bothersome warnings. Not to mention the "spoiler boxes" and the idea to open up the image in a new tab, which would seriously chop up the flow of the pages. If a warning for potential NSFW content is necessary, then it should at least fit in with the page, no?

I'm seriously against censorship, or whatever you wish to call this, but I can understand people's concerns.
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Posted on 03-13-12 12:35:21 AM (last edited by Reshiram at 03-12-12 09:36 PM) Link | Quote
Possibility doesn't dictate what you can do.
I am not trying to be harsh, I'm just going over everything you said and explaining why I think you are wrong.


Putting any of these "NSFW tag" ideas into effect would mark an extremely tragic turn for TCRF
It literally would show a picture before another one, or a notice, or something. A "tragic turn" happening would be the fault of those who would react to it.


Doing this would be drawing a line where no line should be drawn. What would be "too NSFW," or at least explicit enough to waiver the little box?
Simple guidelines, and a per-case basis. We are a small site and it's not like it isn't being watched over already.


Would doing this encourage people to search for explicit stuff in games, and dump it all on TCRF?
1. It shouldn't.
2. It'd still be unused content.


can you imagine what several pages bearing NSFW tags, boxes, etc everywhere would look like? It'd make us look more like a hub for hidden video game smut more than anything else.
1. The games that have such stuff are already not clean to begin with.
2. I don't understand how would a NSFW page somehow look worse with warnings than without.


the administrators would more than likely screen for things that would be considered too explicit - and where would you draw the line there?
hey BMF someone uploaded a sock to the site its porn
There won't be any "power corrupt administrators" scenarios. It's an easy to define thing.


Are we going to start putting boxes on every page that has the word "fuck" on it?
No. There would be simple guidelines. Something like "warn about realistic tits and genitals please". Further questionable cases can, again, simply be treated specifically.


Are we simply going to "turn down" people who have content that the admins don't consider "proper" enough to be included?
Nobody has ever mentioned "turning down" anything, nor will something be turned down because of the content itself.


You'd be alienating your audiences
Unless this audience gets offended at being warned that there's NSFW content, no.


I can personally cite a conversation that took place inside of #tcrf, where a handful of people were complaining about the amount of articles based on games made with Adobe Flash.
Which is an entirely different issue both in nature and consequence: There what was being discussed was basically notability. Which has absolutely nothing to do with this.


you can't choose to act upon something, if something else is doing the exact same thing
Wrong. Simply because that "something else" would not be doing the "exact same thing". The hypothetical context would vary.
This is why the so-called "Rule 0" exists. If in an specific case, something NEEDS to bypass certain guidelines and rules, it can be done.


If you're going to put a NSFW tag on one thing, well, you might as well do it on every page that includes things that are NSFW! Right? Right?
It would deppend on the pages themselves. Some things just wouldn't matter at all. Some others would benefit from HEY THIS IS NSFW JUST SO YOU KNOW.


Not to mention the fact that doing this would be contradicting the very ideals of the site itself, one of them being to bring censored or cut things to light. And then we turn around and censor the very content that we just "un-censored?" What?
... What are you saying? Nobody is censoring anything.


Who are we really protecting?
We aren't protecting anyone. This is a formality so people don't look at something and SUDDENLY PORN, which wouldn't be a nice thing to do because of what BMF said.



In the end, I'd rather just echo that. The point is simply warning people.

My suggestion was for when just a single thing was NSFW in an otherwise safe article... which now that I think about, is actually too much for something that probably will happen very rarely. But ultimately was purely for convenience sake.

A simple notice over the page for those heavy in such content would probably be a better choice.

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Posted on 03-13-12 12:38:10 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BlueWhirl
Perhaps I should clarify what I meant when I said that I didn't want "NSFW tags" on the website. Many of the ideas suggested include flashy, annoying, or otherwise bothersome warnings. Not to mention the "spoiler boxes" and the idea to open up the image in a new tab, which would seriously chop up the flow of the pages. If a warning for potential NSFW content is necessary, then it should at least fit in with the page, no?

I'm seriously against censorship, or whatever you wish to call this, but I can understand people's concerns.


This isn't censorship. Censorship would be denying access to the pictures at all, either by editing them or refusing to have them on the wiki. This is just warning people they're about to see images that have nudity. Sorry but it irks me when people use that word wrong.

As far as chopping up the flow of a page, I've seen other wikis use expandable galleries to house large collections of images to save bandwidth (the pictures aren't loaded until the gallery is expanded), and it doesn't chop up pages at all - it actually makes them easier to navigate because you don't have to scroll through a million images. I really feel like you're just opposed to any sort of warning at all for some reason.

Anyway, it seems to have been taken care of.
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Posted on 03-13-12 01:14:57 AM Link | Quote
When I said "censorship" I wasn't meaning it in its most extreme form. Again, referring strictly to the ideas that would make users click things to view - you're altering the way people would see it.

content
[click here to view NSFW content]
content

The content aught to be equal with the rest, and we shouldn't be giving off the impression that certain content is better than other content.


Although, I don't know how much my argument matters anymore - it looks like the banner idea is going through anyways, which would be something that I support, or at least more than the idea I mentioned above.
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Posted on 03-13-12 03:55:18 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BlueWhirl
When I said "censorship" I wasn't meaning it in its most extreme form. Again, referring strictly to the ideas that would make users click things to view - you're altering the way people would see it.

content
[click here to view NSFW content]
content

The content aught to be equal with the rest, and we shouldn't be giving off the impression that certain content is better than other content.



Although, I don't know how much my argument matters anymore - it looks like the banner idea is going through anyways, which would be something that I support, or at least more than the idea I mentioned above.



Except it doesn't make any content "better" than other content, it just safeguards someone from potentially losing their job over a titty on their monitor, so to speak.

Simple solution, which was suggested before: In an article that is saturated with NSFW stuff or has an incredibly egregious *kind* of NSFW, a banner across the top with a mosaic'd-out cactus (or a cactus with some strategically-placed black bars) that says "This article isn't work-safe. There are many boobies or other offensive material that will make your boss act all prickly at you" should suffice.

If the article has a bunch of tame things and then , then a click-through would be a good diplomatic way of handling it.

If it's something like Mechanized Attack or Castlevania IV, then no real warning is needed. It's not that difficult or radical. D:

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line 662 column 2538 - Warning: missing </font> before <blockquote>
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line 668 column 3328 - Warning: inserting implicit <font>
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line 741 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
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line 775 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
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line 777 column 681 - Warning: inserting implicit <font>
line 777 column 681 - Warning: missing </font> before <hr>
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line 784 column 1 - Warning: missing </font> before <hr>
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line 797 column 17 - Warning: discarding unexpected <table>
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line 180 column 872 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 317 column 323 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 317 column 323 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 803 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 803 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 803 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 647 column 601 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 649 column 893 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 651 column 1194 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 654 column 1391 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
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line 662 column 2395 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 662 column 2525 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 664 column 2673 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 666 column 2829 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 668 column 3220 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 671 column 3613 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 673 column 3943 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 673 column 4196 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 675 column 4283 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 777 column 651 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 797 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 183 column 1399 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 207 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 233 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 262 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 288 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 314 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 341 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 343 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 352 column 1078 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 376 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 378 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 404 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 406 column 176 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 430 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 458 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 491 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 529 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 557 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 587 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 615 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 643 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 645 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 683 column 5010 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 707 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 741 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 775 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 450 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md