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Posted on 03-11-12 04:57:02 AM Link | Quote
This is an odd question, but I need to ask it. I've been tearing apart Splatterhouse 2010 at the seams, since I plan to modify the hell out of it to restore cut content and material. And trust me, there's a lot of material, and I'd like to post this on TCRF.

Now here's where the topic title fits in. The game features several pics of the female character Jennifer nude that you can unlock. A good chunk were cut from the game. There's nothing overtly sexual about the images, other than bare breasts in some. It seems odd however to say "these are here" and then go "but you can't see them".

So what's the policy/handling on this sort of thing?
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Posted on 03-11-12 05:05:58 AM Link | Quote
I think we need some sort of "NSFW" template indicating that some of the content on the page is not safe for work. That seems like it would work.

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Posted on 03-11-12 05:29:35 AM Link | Quote
I'm cool with nudity. Pointless censorship is for game companies, not us.
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Posted on 03-11-12 06:00:27 AM Link | Quote
A couple pages already contain some minor nudity, like the TES2: Daggerfall prototype page.

A template is just kind of an invitation for the desperate to hunt for nudity wherever they can; let's make it difficult for them by just treating nudity like business as usual.

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Posted on 03-11-12 06:27:22 AM Link | Quote
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Probably should keep it in a "spoiler" type tag, or just link to the images with a note. I imagine there are a lot of young children who browse and if you want any legitimacy, you should probably be fairly accepting of squeamish parents.

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Posted on 03-11-12 06:59:07 AM Link | Quote
I think given how much I'm wading through here, I'm going to go ahead and make a sub-page in the article with a big "Warning: Nudity" disclaimer. There's so much to wade through so this'll end up being a slow and steady production either way.

Here's the article for anyone who wants to see how things are progressing: http://tcrf.net/Splatterhouse_(2010)
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Posted on 03-11-12 07:13:25 AM Link | Quote
A subpage thing is pretty much easily bypassed if you, say, link to the page directly.

Also I really don't think a 'desperate hunt for nudity' is a big deal.

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Posted on 03-11-12 07:23:38 AM Link | Quote
I actually agree with you on that last line, given that really these pages are far from kid friendly anyway (those developer rants, anyone).

Still, the sub-page does at least quell issues with folks showing an effort was made, and I do have enough material to flesh it out.
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Posted on 03-11-12 07:45:09 AM (last edited by Aoi at 03-11-12 04:45 AM) Link | Quote
Well, here's the question I asked about it in 2010. Xkeeper's reply at the time was about the same as the general opinion in this thread - we probably shouldn't be worried about it. I was just semi-concerned someone out there might make a big gripe about it to someone, like the webhosts. Then again, I am paranoid. ;

Kung Fu Man: you might want to avoid making a lot of "small" edits, though. Some don't like it when the Recent Changes log fills up with several edits to one page. You can use the Preview button or the Sandbox to check your page, if you want.
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Posted on 03-11-12 04:47:42 PM Link | Quote
I think the big difference between pages that have NSFW content (Atomic F-Bomberman, anyone?) and this particular brand of it is that the text isn't as obvious from far away that it's NSFW and the audio doesn't make itself known until you hit play; images are just right there.

That's why I think a little notice at the top of the page would work well, just as an alert that content below might not be suitable for work. (Though the skip-through-the-page link would still cause issues, but at least it'd be on the same page.)

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Posted on 03-12-12 12:07:58 AM Link | Quote
The following page contains material "not safe for work".


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Posted on 03-12-12 04:25:18 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Darkdata
The following page contains material "not safe for work".


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Posted on 03-12-12 04:30:51 AM Link | Quote
I can't tell if that's a "no" to the lack of humour in the disclaimer, a "no" to the partial nudity, or a "no" to the image of what appears to be spiky melons in a bra.

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Posted on 03-12-12 04:58:04 AM (last edited by Rena at 03-12-12 01:58 AM) Link | Quote
Post #4584 · 03-11-12 11:58:04 PM
Originally posted by BMF54123
YES. But maybe make the censor bar a bit larger so it's clearer what it is. Maybe write "CENSORED" on it.

Tina pretty much nailed it: NSFW text isn't a big deal because unless you're right up close, it just looks like text, and audio isn't a big deal because you have to manually activate it, but images are right there for everyone to see. (Even if you just scroll past them or hit back right away, a particularly zealous corporate filter might go just over them being in your cache and/or passing through the firewall... but then why are you looking at vidjagames in the first place? )

[edit] I also like Bagel's idea.

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Posted on 03-12-12 05:17:01 AM Link | Quote
Possibility doesn't dictate what you can do.
I'd think a better idea would be making an image template, in where the thumbnail was replaced by a "hey this is NSFW click me to see" image, and it took you to the actual file.

But I don't know if that's even possible.

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Posted on 03-12-12 07:10:12 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Reshiram
I'd think a better idea would be making an image template, in where the thumbnail was replaced by a "hey this is NSFW click me to see" image, and it took you to the actual file.

But I don't know if that's even possible.


Alternatively, couldn't you just make it a gif? The screen would show text where the image should be, saying that the following image is NSFW. After a significant amount of time passes, the image shows, and it stays like that (non looping.)

It's far from perfect, but if you can't do what you listed, sometimes improvising can work wonders.

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Originally posted by legacyme3
Alternatively, couldn't you just make it a gif? The screen would show text where the image should be, saying that the following image is NSFW. After a significant amount of time passes, the image shows, and it stays like that (non looping.)
That's a pretty lame solution, considering GIFs can only have 256 colors, and most NSFW stuff tends to exceed that. And what about grownups who want to view the content immediately?

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Posted on 03-12-12 08:25:44 AM Link | Quote
Alternately, a bit of JavaScript could allow a hover-over reveal of the image in question.

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line 602 column 5164 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 602 column 5164 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 602 column 5365 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 602 column 5365 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 736 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 736 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 750 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 604 column 5593 - Warning: trimming empty <label>
line 730 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 207 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 209 column 317 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 233 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 259 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 287 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 342 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 429 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 431 column 317 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
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line 486 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 493 column 532 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
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line 572 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 628 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 630 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 632 column 729 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 656 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 688 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 722 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 334 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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