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Posted on 03-06-12 05:39:44 PM Link | Quote
Interesting that! I will see tomorrow in detail.

Otherwise, the debug mode is similar there to what I think? For example, a similar Debug Camera as Zelda on the Nintendo 64?

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Posted on 03-07-12 02:34:40 AM Link | Quote
The character limit thing amuses me. I still do the 8.3, but that's because I'm used to DOS. =)

Very interesting to read. Thanks for translating them so far, Glitterberri. It's rare you get to read things like this.
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Posted on 03-07-12 10:14:06 AM Link | Quote
I looked into the 'debug mode' for TWW, but it doesn't work. Changing the 7th byte to 91 makes the game crash with a 'GP freeze' and a 'Failed assertion 0 in JFWDisplay.cpp.' Thing is, I don't think this JFWDisplay exists anymore. So it tries to do something with it, but because it isn't there, it crashes.
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Posted on 03-07-12 10:43:24 AM Link | Quote
Me, it works perfectly! Try this code:

04000004 30310091

And do not forget to put the new code debug console that I put on yesterday TCRF. Then in the game, you do "Z" and get the debug console screen. Is then "L+R +A" and "DPad Up/Down/Left/Right".

However, the Japanese version is more interesting because there is the debug sound for example and some text on the right side of the screen. It changes by the buttons "L+Z".



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Posted on 03-08-12 02:04:26 AM Link | Quote
Post #4563 · 03-07-12 09:04:26 PM
I'd interpret that display as e.g. "in the 'root' memory pool, 4 blocks are allocated totalling 20914288 bytes".

Gamma, were you editing the ISO? Maybe using a code instead bypasses a checksum routine... (or you used a crappy hex editor that truncated it to 2 or 4GB? )

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Posted on 03-08-12 02:14:57 AM Link | Quote
I'm using HxD for hex work. I'm not sure why it doesn't work... Hold on. Am I supposed to be changing the 7th byte, or the '01' in 'GZLE01?'
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Posted on 03-08-12 03:35:13 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Treeki
You can turn on the debug mode by setting the DVD version to 0x91 or higher. This is the byte at offset 0x07 in the ISO file. This applies to Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Animal Crossing as far as I know.

Versions 0 to 0x80 disable debug mode. Versions 0x81 to 0x90 enable debug mode on development consoles. 0x91 and higher ALWAYS enable it.


On the Wii version of TP, you can plug in GC controllers and use the buttons on them to control debug stuff. I believe Animal Crossing GC also does it with controllers 2/3/4.. I haven't checked out TP for GC or Wind Waker :/


Does that mean it's possible to create debug versions of the ISOs?
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Posted on 03-08-12 03:46:55 AM (last edited by Joe at 03-08-12 12:47 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gamma
I'm using HxD for hex work. I'm not sure why it doesn't work... Hold on. Am I supposed to be changing the 7th byte, or the '01' in 'GZLE01?'

The GCM/ISO currently has something like this at the beginning: 
47 41 46 45 30 31 00 00

If, for example, you wished to change the version to 0x91, you would edit that to this:
47 41 46 45 30 31 00 91


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Posted on 03-08-12 09:12:58 AM (last edited by Dark Linkaël at 03-08-12 06:15 AM) Link | Quote
In versions US/EU, you have to "L+Z" to see what you see on the right of the screen. "R+Z" to remove.

No debug sound and nothing else very interesting unfortunately. It is just some stuff in the debug menu (see website TCRF and the map select page).

I begin to doubt the presence of a true debug mode... Yet I seem to see the game in the iso, texts like stuff from a debug mode.

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Posted on 03-08-12 10:44:38 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Joe
Originally posted by Gamma
I'm using HxD for hex work. I'm not sure why it doesn't work... Hold on. Am I supposed to be changing the 7th byte, or the '01' in 'GZLE01?'

The GCM/ISO currently has something like this at the beginning: 
47 41 46 45 30 31 00 00

If, for example, you wished to change the version to 0x91, you would edit that to this:
47 41 46 45 30 31 00 91


Yeah. When I did that, it would hang. In Dolphin's console, it would print a few error messages ('GP is in unknown state! GP FREEZE! Failed assertion 0 in JFWDisplay!')
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Posted on 03-08-12 11:04:50 AM Link | Quote
I do not understand what's your problem, just change one little thing and that does not affect the game, but just turn on debug mode. I have not yet tested US version, but it must be like for EU and JP versions I tested without problems.

Is this an old enough version of the Dolphin emulator?

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Posted on 03-08-12 04:31:56 PM Link | Quote
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You both should get sha1sums of your isos and see if he has a bad image.

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Posted on 03-08-12 05:10:43 PM (last edited by xdaniel at 03-08-12 03:36 PM) Link | Quote


>>ESTABLISHING LINK...DONE.    >>FETCHING POST DATA...DONE.    >>EXECUTING POSTDISP.BIN...


Finally got this to work, at least on a Japanese Wind Waker image I *ahem* "obtained" and on TP PAL - note that you have to have a controller plugged into port 3, otherwise you get nothing.

I'm currently messing around with WW JPN and will post some stuff down in the Wind Waker thread...

EDIT: PAL Wii + PAL TP + NeoGamma with "04000004 30310091" = ...





But don't go and press R+Z on controller 3, unless you want to crash your game!


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Posted on 03-09-12 05:08:16 AM Link | Quote
Post #4569 · 03-09-12 12:08:16 AM
Originally posted by Gamma
Yeah. When I did that, it would hang. In Dolphin's console, it would print a few error messages ('GP is in unknown state! GP FREEZE! Failed assertion 0 in JFWDisplay!')

Could just be a crappy graphics plugin?

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Posted on 03-09-12 10:20:45 AM Link | Quote
I just watched again the messages of both developers and I just saw "menu.dat". They talk about the map select! However, the real filename is "Menu1.dat".

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Posted on 03-09-12 03:03:19 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dark Linkaël
I just watched again the messages of both developers and I just saw "menu.dat". They talk about the map select! However, the real filename is "Menu1.dat".


What messages of both developers? The developer notes? Or is there a video?
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Posted on 03-09-12 03:07:38 PM Link | Quote
In the notes of two developers (file2.txt).

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Posted on 03-13-12 12:05:05 PM (last edited by Dark Linkaël at 03-13-12 09:12 AM) Link | Quote
The four files "frameworkF.map" Twilight Princess:

JP Version - US Version - EU Version

E3 2006 Demo Version

Note : E3 2006 Demo (2.25MB) and normal version (1.88 MB)

Map Select, there is only this:

000263a8 000028 803e33e8 4 g_profile_MENU_SCENE d_s_menu.o

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Originally posted by Kargaroc
The inconsistent dungeon numbering and non descriptive filenames in Twilight Princess make me think that Nintendo EAD developed some kind of automated obfuscation program that not only scrambles the names of things, but also automatically removes all resources not referenced by the game.


All the platform holders (Sony/MS/Nintendo) now have in their technical requirements that no files on the disc are allowed to go unused by the game ever since the whole Hot Coffee issue. If you leave behind files that aren't used, your game will fail certification which costs your publisher big money. This doesn't exactly mean that you won't find anything that's unused anymore, it just means that you'll have to go hunting within a single binary or several binary files which are really just archives of multiple files for unused stuff. I believe all the platform holders have programs that will automatically check for unused files as part of the cert process. But in general, finding unused stuff is going to be harder now.. and also, most of that unused stuff just ends up as DLC later on these days.

Originally posted by Kargaroc

Now... I wonder how good Nintendo EAD's security really is...
probably better than a lot of government security...


I can tell you that at some places, physical security makes getting into a nuclear reactor look easy.
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Can someone with the Japanese version of Twilight Princess check this out, please?

"There is what appears to be data for Twilight Princess E3. The file path is [Disc\Game partition\res\Layout\clctresE3.arc]. (Japanese Wii Version) It contains a blo file and bti image file. In the same folder, there's something similar called "clctres.arc", which is included in the unused stuff."
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line 787 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 303 column 4938 - Warning: trimming empty <label>
line 591 column 4917 - Warning: trimming empty <label>
line 781 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 208 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 337 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md