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Read the post first plz
Just pick one of the stupid options
Tocici is pretty great eh
 
5.3%, 1 vote
that linode thing
 
5.3%, 1 vote
large rack(space)s
 
5.3%, 1 vote
let's sonic retro!
 
78.9%, 15 votes
other crap
 
5.3%, 1 vote
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Posted on 11-29-11 10:08:48 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
One thing I was considering was moving in with Sonic Retro, but trying to raise funds to purchase our own server and use it at the colo facility as well.

A server would cost about $600 up-front (perhaps a bit less if we went with less-capable hardware), and would be shoved into a cabinet there for about $50/month thereafter.

host@joes

They've treated Sonic Retro pretty well so far, all things considered.

Aside from the $600 up-front, this sounds like a good solution to me, considering, afaik, Sonic Retro does pretty good server-wise.

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Posted on 11-30-11 02:13:02 AM Link | Quote
Same, except for the $600 starter price tag. Wait...did you say $50 a month too to keep it up, or did I just totally misread that?

That's starting to sound like quite an expensive option.

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Posted on 11-30-11 03:44:19 AM Link | Quote
Personally, I don't know how you plan to afford $50/month... That worries me a bit.

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Posted on 11-30-11 04:13:04 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, that's really expensive.

So does that mean we get to have annoying pledge drives on TCRF too? (Nah, we'd make them fun... I hope.)

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Posted on 11-30-11 01:14:33 PM Link | Quote
Does TCRF have separate income from ads, too? Or are they just on Jul? I can't visit it from work since it blocks it as potentially unsafe...

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Posted on 11-30-11 01:28:55 PM Link | Quote
$50/month sounds rather reasonable to me for someone in need of such a service, but I wouldn't fork that out unless I had as much popularity as say this place. As far as how much it's within reach of this board, how much do the ads usually raise a month? And how much do we currently pay?
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Posted on 11-30-11 02:19:42 PM Link | Quote
Last time I checked, TCRF has ads as well. I don't know how much they bring in, though.

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Posted on 11-30-11 02:22:48 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
One thing I was considering was moving in with Sonic Retro, but trying to raise funds to purchase our own server and use it at the colo facility as well.

A server would cost about $600 up-front (perhaps a bit less if we went with less-capable hardware), and would be shoved into a cabinet there for about $50/month thereafter.

host@joes

They've treated Sonic Retro pretty well so far, all things considered.

If you did go this route, would it make sense to move the rustedlogic stuff over to the server as well? Then you'd only have the one bill, at least... (though I suppose there's an issue of relying on a single host for everything)

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Posted on 11-30-11 04:47:32 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by stag019
$50/month sounds rather reasonable to me for someone in need of such a service, but I wouldn't fork that out unless I had as much popularity as say this place. As far as how much it's within reach of this board, how much do the ads usually raise a month? And how much do we currently pay?

Average of $0.30~$0.50 daily combined (so about $15-30 a month depending on spikes). It isn't a whole lot but it does its part.

The Rusted Logic finances have mostly been entirely out-of-pocket since the last RL Donation Drive. TCRF eats $25/month as it is right now and $50 wouldn't be that big of an issue as long as I'm employed.

If you want pricey, try the Rusted Logic hosting in general, which is over about $250 now (but paid every two years). That one will sting in 2013 >)>

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Posted on 11-30-11 04:49:12 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Nicole
Originally posted by Xkeeper
One thing I was considering was moving in with Sonic Retro, but trying to raise funds to purchase our own server and use it at the colo facility as well.

A server would cost about $600 up-front (perhaps a bit less if we went with less-capable hardware), and would be shoved into a cabinet there for about $50/month thereafter.

host@joes

They've treated Sonic Retro pretty well so far, all things considered.

If you did go this route, would it make sense to move the rustedlogic stuff over to the server as well? Then you'd only have the one bill, at least... (though I suppose there's an issue of relying on a single host for everything)

Most of the stuff not needing TCRF-like requirements would definitely stay on DreamHost (there's really no reason to move and $9/month or so on average is not terribly expensive for what we use it for). I'd probably consider moving stuff like stats.rustedlogic.net though, which is failing under the restrictions of shared hosting.

It's funny to think that "medium" sites in Piwik are ones with >= 700 visits/day when we have a bunch more

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Posted on 11-30-11 05:07:55 PM Link | Quote
We could piggyback off of retro while we run a donation drive on wiki and also on site? That might be something to look at as well.

I hope I did not state the obvious or something that someone else said...

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Posted on 11-30-11 06:18:31 PM Link | Quote
$600 dolar server

Current accumulated funds: $108.37

Everyone, make your Christmas gift be donations.

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Posted on 12-01-11 11:47:28 PM (last edited by Emuz at 12-01-11 08:50 PM) Link | Quote
I have a friend who spent $6000 on his server. He used it for massive RO servers. He got fed up with the hosting company and took it home and put it on a T1 line. :/ So for a dedicated blade it's not a bad deal at all.

I've used Linode for about 2 months now. I do like it, but the scale it seems is needed it would get pricey. I also still run a server at my mother's house like I did back in the day (however I am thinking of finally closing that down now that I can afford a dedicated one elsewhere)

I'd be willing to donate some money as well. (This may be the first year I can afford to donate to various projects for once ) Really I think with all the content you do TCRF having a dedicated server could be very beneficial.

I remember when I started kafuka.org and acmlm.org 10 years ago when I didn't have any money. EmuNET and all that kind of sucked due to the fact I could never get the main server on to a real host due to the costs involved always bugged me.

EDIT: I added some to the dreamhost kitty. If you want some to help with the relocation drop me a line.
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Posted on 12-02-11 02:50:00 AM Link | Quote
i use SurpassHosting and they are pretty fantastic. I pay around $7 a month and the bandwith/data allowances are pretty decent, or at least were when I got my package. May be worth a look
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I've been working with ScarredSun to get a plan together to purchase the parts to make a dedicated server. The price range is looking to be about $350 or so, but it should be fast, at least.

We shall see.

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Originally posted by Bloodstar
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Ordinarily I would have no issues going with this one, but, well... The last few instances of "sharing a server" really haven't gone that well.


This is why I picked Linode. Retro wouldn't be that bad, but... I dunno, I kind of worry sometimes.


Agreed. Except I picked staying with the current host. I personally have never had any trouble accessing Jul. I would pay for this hosting. I might soon. Then again, I currently use a free Canadian host that is randomly slow and even goes down randomly (though not that often)... So may be I'm just cheap.

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Posted on 12-19-11 01:43:53 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dekker
accessing Jul


Originally posted by Xkeeper
Let's moving TCRF?




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line 463 column 1799 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 470 column 11 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" has invalid value "orange"
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line 670 column 678 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 679 column 244 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 286 column 1678 - Warning: trimming empty <center>
line 311 column 2155 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 673 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 203 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 205 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 236 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 264 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 266 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 266 column 306 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 282 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 284 column 1139 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 284 column 1258 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 286 column 1732 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 309 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 311 column 1425 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 311 column 1487 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "cellpadding"
line 311 column 1531 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 311 column 1620 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 335 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 361 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 363 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 363 column 306 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
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line 420 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 451 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 487 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 518 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 546 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 580 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 606 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 634 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 636 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 636 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 664 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 345 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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