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Posted on 05-17-11 06:01:36 PM Link | Quote
Did that Carinsurancequotes bot have a valid email address, or was it actually exploiting something (hope not; I'm paranoid, though )? It seemed to get around to posting about as fast as the bots did before the new measures were implemented.

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Posted on 05-18-11 02:11:34 AM Link | Quote
Why not captchas? Also, have you guys tried this stuff?
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Posted on 05-18-11 07:59:54 AM Link | Quote
Captchas don't work if there is a human filling in the fields, as I suspect was the case with the last couple of spambots. The problem's only going to get worse as labor gets cheaper and spammers get more desperate.

I think the only way we're going to stop human spammers is via either manual validation (time-consuming, not 100% effective) or disabling registration entirely (not a viable option).

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Posted on 05-19-11 04:55:16 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Waffle Ryebread
I think the only way we're going to stop human spammers is via either manual validation (time-consuming, not 100% effective) or disabling registration entirely (not a viable option).


It's both sad and frustrating that sites keep having to resort to drastic measures like this to keep out friggin' spam...

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Posted on 05-19-11 08:06:11 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by YK
Originally posted by Waffle Ryebread
I think the only way we're going to stop human spammers is via either manual validation (time-consuming, not 100% effective) or disabling registration entirely (not a viable option).


It's both sad and frustrating that sites keep having to resort to drastic measures like this to keep out friggin' spam...


Glad I signed up before this. I hate spambots, But Manual Activation has a tendency to freak out (not "freak out" per-say but things can get "ugly").
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Posted on 05-20-11 02:39:24 PM Link | Quote
Well now it doesn't look like there's anyone human behind this. They probably just improved their features to get past all the anti-spam features.

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Posted on 05-20-11 02:41:26 PM Link | Quote
E-mail validation is probably something that bots could be programmed to deal with- did anyone take a look at what the spambots were using for e-mail addresses before evaporating their accounts?

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Posted on 05-20-11 04:28:57 PM (last edited by Waffle Ryebread at 05-20-11 01:48 PM) Link | Quote
You know, we already do something similar to manual validation, in that spambot accounts are manually banned (usually) the same day they register, whether they've submitted something or not.

If we had a way to sort new, unvalidated users into a nice list that the admins could check on a regular basis, it would make the process a lot quicker and easier, and ensure that nobody gets ignored.

Yes, this might mean that new users have to wait a few hours to start submitting things, but I think it's a small price to pay to keep spammers from spreading their filth (and keep the Recent Changes page clean).

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Posted on 05-20-11 05:06:30 PM Link | Quote
I think I'm gonna agree with BMF on this one. Most of the admins have had to prune the spamusers anyway, so manual validation wouldn't be that much of a step. I mean fuck, there's like eight or nine of us (me included), so I think with that many people admining it, it wouldn't take long for someone to jump in and do a spambot sweep.



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Posted on 05-22-11 02:52:05 AM Link | Quote
Let me just say that I, for one, really dislike manual approval, and have no intentions of implementing it.

However, I will be looking into other methods of stopping the spam issue.

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Posted on 05-22-11 08:15:09 AM Link | Quote
Didn't you do something on an old incarnation of the forums wherein there was a hidden field that auto-banned bots, that field being something they almost all would do upon sign-up? Perhaps that would work again.
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Posted on 05-23-11 07:20:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Keitaro
Didn't you do something on an old incarnation of the forums wherein there was a hidden field that auto-banned bots, that field being something they almost all would do upon sign-up? Perhaps that would work again.


It would function as a handy idiot check, too.
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Posted on 05-23-11 10:44:23 PM Link | Quote
The end of spambots, hopefully.

Onward!

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Posted on 05-25-11 08:03:40 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Waffle Ryebread
The end of spambots, hopefully.

Onward!


Two more registered today and were banned... the same garden variety FirstnameLastname# ones, though...

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Posted on 05-25-11 08:29:28 PM Link | Quote
Too soon to say whether the other ones have fully been kicked though. They were kinda infrequent.

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Posted on 06-08-11 06:53:03 PM Link | Quote
The Planescape Torment article should be featured, it's high quality and rich in content.
http://tcrf.net/Planescape:_Torment

This brings me to wanting a feature that allows users to nominate the articles.
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Posted on 06-12-11 11:33:40 PM Link | Quote
Soo, what do we do with Nintendo DS title screens? At the moment it is a mess, with some pages using only the top screen and others using both. Which one should we use?

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Posted on 06-12-11 11:36:39 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Liliana
Soo, what do we do with Nintendo DS title screens? At the moment it is a mess, with some pages using only the top screen and others using both. Which one should we use?

Sittin on the top screen kickin on the bottom screen gotta make my mind up wh-*shot*

Anyway, my personal preference is to use both screens- it does take up more vertical space on the page, but I don't think it's that much of an issue...

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Posted on 06-13-11 02:33:07 AM (last edited by Aoi at 06-12-11 11:39 PM) Link | Quote
If the 'other screen' is little more than a separate screen with, say, a "Touch Here to Start!" message, I'd probably consider removing it, though.

Of course, that could bring up potential problems - don't Desmume and No$ take captures of both screens at the same time? - someone less experienced in graphic editing could possibly lower the quality of the image considerably while trying to crop out the lower screen, for example.
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Posted on 06-14-11 12:58:55 PM Link | Quote
Of course, if a contributor cannot even crop a screen properly, what is he supposed to do here?

I don't think that should be an issue at all.

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line 598 column 162 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
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line 723 column 245 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 732 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 737 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 717 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 205 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 231 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 259 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 287 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 317 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 319 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 319 column 433 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 343 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 369 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 399 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 427 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 458 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 512 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 570 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 596 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 625 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 627 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 627 column 455 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 651 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 680 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 710 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 712 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 714 column 435 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 346 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md