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Posted on 04-24-11 02:27:23 PM Link | Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY8WlJ3Iikg&feature=related
I posted this video, 'cause it shows something I definitely can't recall.
Petey Piranha ALWAYS start an attack BEFORE he can do his waiting animation. It's the one where he looks to the left & to the right and then shakes one of the cages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUU8LO41ZQk&feature=related
Duon REALLY seems to be hard-coded...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apD4wgIpuu8&feature=related
Ridley's henchmen are missing, so hard-coded is this battle.
Well, either that or he need some more time at 1:07 (you have to wait until 1:42).

And, of course, all the bosses have got a command to defeat themself.

Now we just need more unused textures & models.

And in terms of unused music, the "Yoshi's Cookie"-Track IS unused. It only can be found in the OST. I've checked the Sound Test.

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Posted on 04-24-11 04:28:21 PM Link | Quote
I don't think hacks to control the bosses really count, and I know I've seen Petey rattle the cages before. You can see him do it for a moment in this video, just before he attacks.


Yoshi's Cookie A interests me, though. They put it on the soundtrack? I know for a fact it isn't in the game's streams. Do you have a link to it? I'm curious to here how it was remixed for Brawl.

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Posted on 04-24-11 04:33:40 PM Link | Quote



It would definitely be interesting to see someone explore to contents of the SSBB disk in more detail. I guess I would if I had the time.

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Posted on 04-25-11 10:46:02 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
I don't think hacks to control the bosses really count, and I know I've seen Petey rattle the cages before. You can see him do it for a moment in this video, just before he attacks.


Yoshi's Cookie A interests me, though. They put it on the soundtrack? I know for a fact it isn't in the game's streams. Do you have a link to it? I'm curious to here how it was remixed for Brawl.

OK, just tell me how to upload it on Mediafire WITHOUT registering.

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Posted on 04-25-11 06:44:23 PM Link | Quote
If it's on the soundtrack, I imagine it should be uploaded to Youtube already. If you can't find it there, use sendspace instead.

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Posted on 05-03-11 01:24:40 PM (last edited by TrebleTrouble at 05-03-11 10:25 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
If it's on the soundtrack, I imagine it should be uploaded to Youtube already. If you can't find it there, use sendspace instead.

Yep, some people had uploaded some of them to Youtube. Here's the list:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGKUfDb6ZtM&feature=related (Earthbound: New Age Retro Hippie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjed8WdGSyk&feature=related (Earthbound: Smiles and Tears)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8j5pC6hPbQ&feature=related (Sonic CD (JP): Opening (You can do anything)) (my favorite of the Sonic Tracks)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDVTen1l2A8&feature=related (Earthbound: Eight Melodies) ([tornado fang] it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcxMzWvG-jA&feature=related (Super Mario RPG: Forest Maze) (the most popular of the unused tracks)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB7BV1ewsZk&feature=related (Link Awakening: Ballad of the Windfish)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTf8lHK377A&feature=related (The Loner Falco Lombardi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSU9icL-8_A&feature=related (Yoshi's Cookie: Type A) (IT'S YOURS, MAH FRIEND!)
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Posted on 05-03-11 01:49:37 PM Link | Quote
I remember reading that all of the character's faces have a "damaged" texture.

Also IIRC, Plusle and Miunin trophy model textures showing that they were going to be playable characters.
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Posted on 05-03-11 03:13:10 PM Link | Quote

Note that these are at best guesses as to what the songs would've actually sounded like if they were in the game. Since it is not possible to hear them, the song selections are only educated guesses based on the filenames.

Yeah, I don't think these are the actual tracks. These are just approximations put together by fans.


And yeah, I noticed the damage texture on Captain Falcon. I guess they realized it was a bit too violent.


Note the shadow revealing one of his eyes.

It would only take a small transformation in UV to change his helmet to cracked.

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Posted on 05-03-11 03:19:02 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian

Note that these are at best guesses as to what the songs would've actually sounded like if they were in the game. Since it is not possible to hear them, the song selections are only educated guesses based on the filenames.

Yeah, I don't think these are the actual tracks. These are just approximations put together by fans.

Those are reuploads of reuploads of uploads of mostly OCRemix music. So yes, none of those are actually in the game.

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Posted on 05-03-11 05:22:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by @
Originally posted by Peardian

Note that these are at best guesses as to what the songs would've actually sounded like if they were in the game. Since it is not possible to hear them, the song selections are only educated guesses based on the filenames.

Yeah, I don't think these are the actual tracks. These are just approximations put together by fans.

Those are reuploads of reuploads of uploads of mostly OCRemix music. So yes, none of those are actually in the game.

Ya'know, I have checked the OST, and they ARE there, but not in the ACTUAL game.
I even have compared them!

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Posted on 05-03-11 05:32:33 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by TrebleTrouble
Ya'know, I have checked the OST, and they ARE there, but not in the ACTUAL game.
I even have compared them!


As far as I can tell, there is no official Soundtrack. Any "Soundtrack" or "OST" you find (especially anything like "Soundtrack + Lost Tracks") is most likely just MP3s of the streams from the game that were ripped as soon as the game came out. Just look at the meta data.

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Posted on 05-03-11 05:45:42 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
Originally posted by TrebleTrouble
Ya'know, I have checked the OST, and they ARE there, but not in the ACTUAL game.
I even have compared them!

As far as I can tell, there is no official Soundtrack. Any "Soundtrack" or "OST" you find (especially anything like "Soundtrack + Lost Tracks") is most likely just MP3s of the streams from the game that were ripped as soon as the game came out. Just look at the meta data.

...well, looks like we probably have to wait, until a Prototype of SSBB appaers. Only THEN we know what's going on here.

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Posted on 05-03-11 06:00:30 PM (last edited by Peardian at 05-03-11 03:30 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by TrebleTrouble
...well, looks like we probably have to wait, until a Prototype of SSBB appaers. Only THEN we know what's going on here.

A prototype would be fantastic, but I'm certain as to what's going on. It's just ripped and fanmade music getting reposted so many times under the name "OST" that nobody knows or cares that it isn't from any sort of official soundtrack.


Also, I checked out hte Plusle & Minun trophy. The textures show... that those are just the Pokémon Colosseum models. The art style and texturing conventions are the same, and the textures all start with the letters "gc_".

Edit: Guess who has animation frames?



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Posted on 05-03-11 07:21:07 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Peardian
Originally posted by TrebleTrouble
...well, looks like we probably have to wait, until a Prototype of SSBB appaers. Only THEN we know what's going on here.

A prototype would be fantastic, but I'm certain as to what's going on. It's just ripped and fanmade music getting reposted so many times under the name "OST" that nobody knows or cares that it isn't from any sort of official soundtrack.


Also, I checked out hte Plusle & Minun trophy. The textures show... that those are just the Pokémon Colosseum models. The art style and texturing conventions are the same, and the textures all start with the letters "gc_".

Edit: Guess who has animation frames?





Could please you post the animation frames on here?
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Sure.

Original frame, used by the trophy.
Frame two.
Frame three.

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line 675 column 1237 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 686 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 686 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 686 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 224 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 327 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
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line 528 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 592 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 668 column 363 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 680 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 683 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 222 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 229 column 1054 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 256 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 293 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 325 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 329 column 777 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
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line 590 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 602 column 1432 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 629 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 666 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 674 column 884 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 302 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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