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Posted on 02-12-11 09:24:41 PM Link | Quote
Mass transit always moves too slowly, FI.

Here, they're digging a few miles of subway line and building 3 stations, and they're expected to take a total of 8 years.

Seattle mass transit has smart cards. They cost $5 one time, but it's worth not having to worry about having exact change, IMO.

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Posted on 02-12-11 10:25:49 PM Link | Quote
Yeah I would love it if we had (true) high-speed trains -and- several times cheaper than Amtrak's ridiculousness. I love travelling.


I want to move to Bethesda (where my boyfriend lives) - that place is so amazing


Bethesda is one of the most affluent and highly educated locales in the country, placing first in Forbes list of America's most educated small towns[1] and first on CNNMoney.com's list of top-earning American towns.[2] In April 2009, Forbes ranked Bethesda second on its list of "America's Most Livable Cities."[3] In October 2009, based on education, income, health, and fitness, Total Beauty ranked Bethesda first on its list of the U.S.'s "Top 10 Hottest-Guy Cities."[4]

Bethesda is a very wealthy and well-educated area. According to the 2000 Census, Bethesda is the best-educated city in the United States of America with a population of 50,000 or more. 79% of residents 25 or older have bachelor's degrees and 49% have graduate or professional degrees.


It looks very nice and clean and it's a metro ride away from D.C.
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Posted on 02-13-11 01:52:11 AM Link | Quote
We finally got smart cards the other year and they're extremely convenient. Plus I can load the next month's pass onto the card 10 days before the 1st!

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Posted on 02-13-11 02:17:02 AM (last edited by Teflon at 02-12-11 11:17 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by FieryIce
Yeah I would love it if we had (true) high-speed trains -and- several times cheaper than Amtrak's ridiculousness. I love travelling.



I just want decent public transportion near where I live period. The only half-decent system is the bus system, and there simply aren't enough buses to go around. That and I live too far away from the system to effectively use it. ;(
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Posted on 02-13-11 02:25:08 AM Link | Quote
Our transit system is half-decent in most places?

This week where I am in Montreal? Not a chance. Damn snow plows.

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Posted on 02-13-11 03:15:18 AM Link | Quote
Well, I have two possible routes with SEPTA: Philadelphia or King of Prussia. And from Philadelphia I can go to pretty much anywhere on the east coast (as south as Virginia).

But there are some very nice places here in PA that I can't go to by bus (like state parks) so there's a lot I'm missing without a car.
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Posted on 02-13-11 05:52:18 PM (last edited by Gabu at 02-13-11 02:52 PM) Link | Quote
From the sound of it, Chicago has had smart cards for years already.

Then again I'm assuming smart cards are card that can have money loaded into them indefinitely so long as the card doesn't get FUBARed. In that case they were here since at least 1998.

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Posted on 02-13-11 06:07:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gabu
Then again I'm assuming smart cards are card that can have money loaded into them indefinitely so long as the card doesn't get FUBARed.


That's how they work here. You can load both money and monthly passes onto the card.


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Posted on 02-13-11 07:23:10 PM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Terra
Originally posted by Gabu
Then again I'm assuming smart cards are card that can have money loaded into them indefinitely so long as the card doesn't get FUBARed.


That's how they work here. You can load both money and monthly passes onto the card.


That's how it works in Boston as well... though you still have to use the paper tickets on the commuter rail. (but you can use commuter rail monthly passes to get subway rides too)

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Posted on 02-13-11 10:11:12 PM Link | Quote
Ugh, everyone has smart cards but Philly. Gosh this city sucks.
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Posted on 02-13-11 10:22:34 PM Link | Quote
Detroit probably lacks them too, considering they barely have any mass transit to begin with

When I was there, they used paper fare cards/passes or just cash.

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Posted on 02-13-11 10:23:51 PM Link | Quote
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Ugh, everyone has smart cards but Philly. Gosh this city sucks.

Does Philly still use tokens or something? I know some cities are still like that

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Posted on 02-14-11 01:45:21 AM Link | Quote
The Bus system in Bangor uses tickets. While it's true that cards are used, we just kind of flash our MaineCard or bus pass and that's it.

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Posted on 02-14-11 02:43:14 AM Link | Quote
We don't let people load cash onto cards. Either single tickets or weekly/monthly passes.

Of course, some people who live outside of Montreal might have a local transit pass PLUS a commuter train pass on there too.

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Posted on 02-14-11 02:45:43 AM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Colin
We don't let people load cash onto cards. Either single tickets or weekly/monthly passes.

Of course, some people who live outside of Montreal might have a local transit pass PLUS a commuter train pass on there too.

The Boston system is the opposite- they're very big on trying to get you to load, say, 5.00 (stupid dying laptop keyboard won't type the dollar sign) when the actual price for a single ride is 1.70 or 1.25.

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Posted on 02-14-11 02:48:08 AM Link | Quote
I can understand that if certain rides cost different amounts. Here it costs the same for a bus and subway ride, and you can transfer between the two systems using the same ticket. So we don't really need to work on a credit system (thankfully).

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Posted on 02-14-11 02:55:12 AM (last edited by Terra at 02-13-11 11:55 PM) Link | Quote
Seattle bus fares are rather complicated. Basically, they're trying to soak daily commuters, so the fare is higher Mondays through Fridays from 6-9 and again from 3-6. This is then even higher if you cross a "zone boundary", like if I were to go from Seattle to one of the Eastside suburbs.

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Posted on 02-14-11 02:56:43 AM Link | Quote
HIGHER during peak periods? Geez. At least here we just have more buses during peak periods. Makes more sense to grab more money through more ridership as opposed to hiking fares when transport's needed. Greedy. :\

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Posted on 02-14-11 02:57:30 AM Link | Quote


wow, you guys are sounding like you're gettin gyped. All you need in calgary is a $54 pass ($62 for adult) and you have unlimited transit use for the entire month. This includes the LRT and Buses.

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Posted on 02-14-11 02:58:33 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Colin
HIGHER during peak periods? Geez. At least here we just have more buses during peak periods. Makes more sense to grab more money through more ridership as opposed to hiking fares when transport's needed. Greedy. :\


They do both here, actually. Buses will run more frequently, but the fare will be higher, and monthly passes that allow for peak-time travel cost more, too, so don't think you can skirt the system with a monthly pass.

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line 210 column 79 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 210 column 259 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 213 column 402 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 262 column 156 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 312 column 393 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 312 column 393 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 453 column 633 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 463 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 463 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 463 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 463 column 188 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 463 column 231 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 463 column 274 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 629 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 687 column 43 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 687 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 687 column 241 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 696 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 701 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 237 column 1632 - Warning: trimming empty <center>
line 285 column 1550 - Warning: trimming empty <center>
line 531 column 1649 - Warning: trimming empty <center>
line 578 column 1674 - Warning: trimming empty <center>
line 622 column 1645 - Warning: trimming empty <center>
line 681 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 208 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 235 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 237 column 1139 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 237 column 1258 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 237 column 1686 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 260 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 281 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 283 column 1139 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 283 column 1258 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 285 column 1604 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 308 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 336 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 338 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 364 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 366 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 394 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 425 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 451 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 453 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 480 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 509 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 527 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 529 column 1139 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 529 column 1258 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 531 column 1703 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 554 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 576 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 578 column 1139 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 578 column 1258 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 578 column 1728 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 601 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 603 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 620 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 622 column 1139 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 622 column 1258 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 622 column 1699 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 645 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 673 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 675 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 430 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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