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Posted on 01-05-11 03:39:09 PM Link
When I hunt for caves in an area where I can't find a surface entrance I dig a huge quarry. When I find a cave I now tend to do what Xkeeper does. It turns out more resources are hiding just behind the walls.

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Posted on 01-05-11 06:28:32 PM Link
I'm actually digging teh Quarry for building materials instead of Hidden Caves. It's also deeper now than shown.

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Posted on 01-05-11 09:44:29 PM (last edited by Gig at 01-05-11 06:47 PM) Link
When I dig for stone.... I just sorta, dig out rooms underground and keep the stone

When I dig for diamonds and such, I use a branch mine arranged in a way like... Well, imagine this as a cross-section.


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As that arrangement provides the best coverage for horizontal mines.

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Posted on 01-05-11 09:51:36 PM Link
Originally posted by Teyla
As that arrangement provides the best coverage for horizontal mines.

That actually seems to be kind of inefficient, as you end up being unable to see a lot of blocks.

Assuming that these tunnels continue all the way down, a better use of your time is probably like this:


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You end up spending more time digging out blocks, but all of them are revealed from one tunnel or another.

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Posted on 01-05-11 09:54:55 PM Link
It's more efficient, you spend less time digging, and due to how ore veins work, unless you're at bedrock (It's best to dig a few levels above) you're going to see everything anyways.

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Posted on 01-06-11 12:45:28 AM Link
Not necessarily; the way those tunnels are configured you can still miss them if they show up in the corners.

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Posted on 01-06-11 12:49:24 AM Link
"the core reason that 2x1 is more efficient, is that ore never (or extremely rarely) spawns in a 1x1x(something) configuration. so you do not need to see every block to know that there is no ore there"

And when diamond does, it spawns like that below layer 10, closer to the bedrock.

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Posted on 01-06-11 01:01:57 AM Link

##x#x#x#x##

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Take this for example; any of the "x"s could be ore (including diagnoals).

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Posted on 01-06-11 01:17:10 AM Link
So, uh, why not do 2x2 holes?

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Posted on 01-06-11 01:18:52 AM (last edited by Teyla at 01-05-11 10:20 PM) Link



Tyty> You are right though, Xk, my mining method isn't the best
Tyty> ###X##X##
Tyty> ##X.XX.X#
Tyty> ##X.XX.X#
Tyty> ##XX#XX##
Tyty> #X.XX.X##
Tyty> #X.XX.X##
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Tyty> X is blocks seen
Tyty> That's the best


Best for efficiency at least

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Posted on 01-06-11 01:20:31 AM (last edited by Gig at 01-05-11 10:23 PM) Link
Originally posted by Delpolo
So, uh, why not do 2x2 holes?

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Every exposed block is only seen by a single tunnel and no block is hidden.



Originally posted by Gig
Originally posted by Teyla
As that arrangement provides the best coverage for horizontal mines.

That actually seems to be kind of inefficient, as you end up being unable to see a lot of blocks.

Assuming that these tunnels continue all the way down, a better use of your time is probably like this:


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# ## ## ## ## ##
# ## ## ## ## ##
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You end up spending more time digging out blocks, but all of them are revealed from one tunnel or another.







E: Durf. Thought those tunnels were 2 wide. Damn spacing.

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Posted on 01-06-11 05:34:03 AM Link

I think I have OMD (Obsessive Mining Disorder)
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Posted on 01-07-11 01:31:26 PM Link
Good Lord, Eppy... XD


My map seems to have a lot of natural holes in the ground, something I don't see on any of my other maps. On this same map, not far from where I start, is a stone shelter leading under a plateau. The mine in here goes probably deeper than any hole on the map does.

Also, the whole mine is themed for Metroid X3. I'm growing trees in "Brinstar", cascades in "Maridia", and lava in "Norfair". Also, planning to set up workstations with chests, benches and furnaces (sorta like save stations)

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Posted on 01-07-11 03:49:21 PM Link
Originally posted by Viola
Also, the whole mine is themed for Metroid X3. I'm growing trees in "Brinstar", cascades in "Maridia", and lava in "Norfair". Also, planning to set up workstations with chests, benches and furnaces (sorta like save stations)


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Posted on 01-07-11 04:17:11 PM Link
Created a new map and I keep finding above-ground/close to surface dungeons now.
This makes me very happy.

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Posted on 01-07-11 06:38:04 PM (last edited by Viola at 01-07-11 03:40 PM) Link
Also, I wanna get on the server and see everyone. Whitelist King_Aquamentus please D:

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Posted on 01-07-11 08:45:41 PM Link
Originally posted by Eppy37

I think I have OMD (Obsessive Mining Disorder)


I saw something similar to that yesterday....

THAT however was a bug. ;
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Could I get whitelisted too? Name's Thexare. I'm still an admin on another server, but that one's... a bit more restrictive. Sometimes I just wanna screw around a bit.

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Posted on 01-08-11 03:45:57 AM Link
Originally posted by Eppy37

I think I have OMD (Obsessive Mining Disorder)

that reminds me of the chunk errors that ruined my world

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Posted on 01-08-11 08:08:23 AM Link

Just finished building this Indoor Pool. The Glass Squares in the water have lava below them to help show that that is a heated pool. Still plan to add a few things to the room to make it look more furnished.

Also, Sukasa owns that apartment with the higher window in the distance. Lucky view of the pool.
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line 718 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 718 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 808 column 216 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 822 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 424 column 605 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 802 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 204 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 206 column 138 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 206 column 242 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 230 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 268 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 307 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 333 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 359 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 387 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 421 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 423 column 339 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 423 column 339 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 423 column 495 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 458 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 496 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 554 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 581 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 614 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 616 column 172 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
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line 674 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 704 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 735 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 766 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 794 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 410 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md