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Posted on 09-04-10 01:48:47 AM Link | Quote
Sorry, let the topic slip for a moment, there.

Anyway, I don't suppose it's possible to get a script/text dump from each of the Link no Bouken versions? Maybe it might be worthwhile comparing those against each other, too.

I thought I remembered someone creating a more-accurate translation from the original Japanese games, at some point (I've always wondered - is it difficult to retool an .FDS image into a .NES image?) - but so far, all I've found in searching is a text editor for the US version of the game, and two translation patches derived from the English version.
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Posted on 09-04-10 03:34:10 AM (last edited by nensondubois at 09-04-10 12:35 AM) Link | Quote
There is a tool on ROMhacking.net that can manipulate an FDS image to make an NES ROM out of a FDS ROM but it works mostly for simple Mapper games and is called FDSExplorer. There are a few other FDS tools, too.
http://www.romhacking.net/?category=&Platform=&game=&author=&os=&level=&perpage=20&page=utilities&utilsearch=Go&title=fds&desc=

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Posted on 11-10-10 04:07:29 AM (last edited by GlitterBerri at 11-10-10 01:07 AM) Link | Quote
The Japanese text for the Chris Houlihan Room says:

「ここは、秘密の部屋だよ~ん。
みんなにはないしょだよ~ん。」

"This is a secret room~
It's a secret to everyone~"

I can't find a Japanese text dump for AoL, otherwise I'd be interested in translating it.
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Posted on 11-10-10 07:35:35 AM Link | Quote
You could probably just go through with a hex editor or the like...I imagine the game isn't THAT text heavy, although its been years since I played so hell if I know...
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Posted on 11-10-10 09:17:23 PM Link | Quote
The only thing is that I've never used one before and I'm not sure if any would be available for Mac. I suppose I'd have to look into it, but I've got a few other things on my plate right now. So much for doing things the easy way!
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Posted on 11-10-10 09:19:37 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by GlitterBerri
The only thing is that I've never used one before and I'm not sure if any would be available for Mac.

lmgtfy

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Posted on 11-12-10 11:14:19 AM Link | Quote
There's a single-headed (That's a bizarre thing to say, but here we are) Gleeok object in Legend of Zelda. I'm pretty sure that's not used anywhere.
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Posted on 11-12-10 03:11:47 PM Link | Quote
Is it possibly used when fighting the normal one? Probably not, but...

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Posted on 11-12-10 03:51:30 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Is it possibly used when fighting the normal one? Probably not, but...

I checked that, the object ID doesn't change when you remove a head.
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Posted on 11-12-10 04:54:41 PM Link | Quote
Hey, neat! I can see where they probably didn't use it because it would be too easy of a fight, since when you decapitate it, it's dead with nothing flying around to be a pain.

Though it could've been used as an early mini-boss? I dunno, that's what I'd use it for in a hack.

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Posted on 12-30-10 08:05:41 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Flying Omelette
I realize this is a topic for Zelda 1, 2, and 3, but I felt this was still the best place to post this.

There's some more unused dialogue in Zelda: Ocarina of Time, according to this site. (Scroll down to "text dump oddities".)

Once again, I could be wrong, but I certainly don't recognize any of the things the author claims are unused.



To be honest, the Door to the Past/Present/Future text always fascinated me. Weren't there roughly two versions of Zelda 64/OoT, with the other being dumped in favor of Ocarina? I always wanted to see what the original game ended up being. =/

Also would like to mention Darunia has text for when you find the Fire Tunic before you rescue him, but... the event doesn't trigger the shortcut opening to Death Mountain. Makes it a pain in the arse.
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Posted on 12-30-10 08:10:32 PM Link | Quote
You mean his son who rolls around in Goron City? I'm pretty sure you can purchase the Fire Tunic from the shop.

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Posted on 12-30-10 09:09:30 PM (last edited by Flying Omelette at 12-30-10 06:10 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Aeonic Butterfly

To be honest, the Door to the Past/Present/Future text always fascinated me. Weren't there roughly two versions of Zelda 64/OoT, with the other being dumped in favor of Ocarina? I always wanted to see what the original game ended up being. =/


Because it's in with the desert area dialogue, I sort of think that dialogue may have had some connection to the Spirit Temple at one point. More time travel may have originally been planned for that dungeon than just going back in time for that one part. But, don't really know that for sure.

There is some measure of circumstantial evidence to suggest that some things in the desert/Gerudo area in general were switched around during development. Most notably, that extra heart container piece that can be found in Gerudo Fortress if you glitch or hack your way into there as child Link.
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Posted on 12-31-10 01:56:53 AM (last edited by Aeonic Butterfly at 12-31-10 12:11 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Prince Kassad
You mean his son who rolls around in Goron City? I'm pretty sure you can purchase the Fire Tunic from the shop.


Yeah, I bought the Tunic THEN saw Darunia. Didn't work =P He never gave me the tunic (still had my own), and never opened the shortcut.

Edited: I can speak English, believe it or not.
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Posted on 12-31-10 03:01:24 PM Link | Quote
If you want to do something funny, get the Zora Tunic from the shop and then melt King Zora. Something... unexpected will happen.

Now, back to topic, there's also the unused Gerudo dialogue which I wonder what they planned to do with it, since it does not really fit anywhere.

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Posted on 12-31-10 07:05:45 PM Link | Quote
Actually though...what about stuff in Zelda II? Anyone found anything yet besides regional differences? o.O

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Posted on 12-31-10 08:21:36 PM Link | Quote
I could look through it in YY-CHR later, but I haven't played it in years, so if I see something unfamiliar, it might just be because I don't remember it.
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Posted on 05-10-11 12:21:15 AM Link | Quote
You guys have a text dump and a translation of the Japanese "Zelda 2" at this site: http://www.lltvg.com/wiki/Zelda_II:_The_Adventure_of_Link

Didn't know there was two rom versions available, have to check that out.
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Posted on 05-10-11 09:24:00 PM Link | Quote
Thanks, KillerBob! Here's my version of the retranslation comparing the original English script with the literal Japanese translation. As you can imagine, quite a lot of information was lost due to spacing issues in the foreign releases of the game. I also include notes on text that doesn't quite seem to match up and other quirks. Some of the English messages don't seem to have a Japanese equivalent, and some messages are translated differently.
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Posted on 05-11-11 01:37:06 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by GlitterBerri
Thanks, KillerBob! Here's my version of the retranslation comparing the original English script with the literal Japanese translation. As you can imagine, quite a lot of information was lost due to spacing issues in the foreign releases of the game. I also include notes on text that doesn't quite seem to match up and other quirks. Some of the English messages don't seem to have a Japanese equivalent, and some messages are translated differently.


Nice job! : ) Now we just need someone to make a rom-hack. ; )

I've no knowledge whatsoever about the Japanese language so I cannot take any credit for the nice translation on their site but I actually sorted all that dialogue for Zelda 2 so I can confirm that the Dragon Quest reference is unique to the Japanese version, there's no English text at the tomb in "Saria" at all in the NES version. Also, in the NES version "the King's tomb" - area, is a single frame with an old woman saying "this is the King's tomb", where as in the Japanese version "the King's tomb" - area is a little bit larger and at night, roaming with enemies and no dialogue. There really are a ton of minor differences between the versions, most visually and in audio though.

Here's some of my findings I did when I sorted the dialogue for the first game: http://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=6123.msg94432#msg94432
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line 439 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 532 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 732 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 732 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 741 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 746 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 726 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 209 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 236 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 270 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 296 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 322 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 349 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 375 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 428 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 456 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 492 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 494 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 494 column 398 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 518 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 549 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 579 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 581 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 583 column 570 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 607 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 633 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 659 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 687 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 713 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 329 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md