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Posted on 12-25-10 07:32:29 PM

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Interesting!

Was this prototype just recently discovered?

Yep, looks like they thought it was too easy in spots. Is that standard Wizzrobe change present in every room with that specific Wizzrobe formation? Maybe they changed the formation itself, if so.

Odd how there was a single false wall in the prototype first quest, and also how the second quest's letter dungeons were in a different order, but still not Z-E-L-D-A.

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Posted on 12-25-10 07:39:12 PM

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So elated over this. Thank you guys and everyone involved for getting this out!

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Posted on 12-25-10 08:04:31 PM

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Man, something this old evaded bitrot? Excellent.

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Posted on 12-25-10 09:05:07 PM (last edited by Alakadoof at 12-25-10 11:16 PM)

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Weird. Did this just get released or something? -Oh yeah, it was.

That's awesome. I want a proto Zelda II.

..Also, shouldn't this prototype have a different theme song? I heard that they used a different one originally, and that Koji Kondo had to make the one used in the final in 24 hours or something... It was an old interview, I think? Maybe just false hearsay.

Edit: Found a source.

Originally posted by Koji Kondo
Yes, as I recall, in the very first Legend of Zelda, in the very opening title screen, we used to use the classical music of "Bolero," because that tempo was perfectly matched with the speed of the opening screen rolling. But I remember it was just before, when we really had to complete the final ROM for reproduction, they told me that unfortunately the copyright of that music hadn't expired yet, so I had to compose a completely new piece of music that night. I recall that I did it within one day. You know, "da-da-da-da" -- that was done in just one day.

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Posted on 12-26-10 02:50:08 AM

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Huh... I'd always heard Miyahon was a mistranslation, but it's correct in the prototype? Neat. Really nice find here.

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Posted on 12-26-10 03:06:07 AM (last edited by GoldS at 12-26-10 12:06 AM)

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Originally posted by Alakadoof
..Also, shouldn't this prototype have a different theme song?

It would have if it was anywhere near finished. The thing doesn't even have the story roll in yet.

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Posted on 12-26-10 03:27:20 AM

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It's not terribly unfinished. There's some decent map tweaks, but it's obvious they were mostly done with it by this point. They even have the rest of the soundtrack down, besides the game over music.

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Posted on 12-26-10 03:50:12 AM

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Fuck yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss!

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Posted on 12-26-10 03:52:01 AM

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By "it" I mean the whole title screen thing.

Don't forget that the main dungeon theme isn't there, either.

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Posted on 12-26-10 05:17:40 AM

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About how unplayable are the second quest dungeons? Are they just a random mish-mash of random, or how do they look? I haven't gotten that far in it yet.

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Posted on 12-26-10 05:47:23 AM (last edited by GoldS at 12-26-10 02:48 AM)

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Originally posted by Rick
About how unplayable are the second quest dungeons? Are they just a random mish-mash of random, or how do they look? I haven't gotten that far in it yet.

They're random room layouts with no objects in them. And by random, I mean it's possible to go through a door that leads to a room wtih no exits. For the most part, the dungeon layouts don't follow the maps shown on the page.

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Posted on 12-26-10 06:44:20 AM

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I still want to see a full map of the second quest's dungeons (even if they do mostly just bend into each other), just for completion's sake.

There are two "big maps" in the game (dungeons 1-7 on one, 8-9 on the other, I think? Maybe 1-6/7-9), and since dungeons are kind of broken it'd be easy to just point where the entrances are and leave it at that.

It's optional, since it's broken, but... yeah

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Posted on 12-27-10 10:28:08 PM (last edited by rabidabid at 12-27-10 07:29 PM)

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Originally posted by the wiki
The room with the hungry Goriya isn't present in the prototype, making the Meat item completely useless.

Well, I wouldn't say it's completely useless. You can still use it to bait some enemies in the overworld. Granted, hardly anybody actually uses it for that purpose.

I think what amazes me most about this prototype is that the testers' old save files still exist. It gives it a neat personal touch.

Any idea what the top two names translate to?

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Posted on 12-27-10 10:32:36 PM

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Originally posted by rabidabid

Any idea what the top two names translate to?

gou (or goo)
kazuko+m

Nice!

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Posted on 12-27-10 11:16:41 PM

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Originally posted by rabidabid
Originally posted by the wiki
The room with the hungry Goriya isn't present in the prototype, making the Meat item completely useless.

Well, I wouldn't say it's completely useless. You can still use it to bait some enemies in the overworld. Granted, hardly anybody actually uses it for that purpose.

I think what amazes me most about this prototype is that the testers' old save files still exist. It gives it a neat personal touch.

Those might not be developer's files; this isn't straight from Nintendo, so it's impossible to say if someone else played it.

Of course, finding some evidence would make a link more probable, but outside of the owners of these saves outright saying whose they are, you're probably out of luck.

I do find the fact that the top one is on the second quest kind of odd, though, but probably nothing major.

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Posted on 12-28-10 07:41:11 PM (last edited by Loose Acid at 12-28-10 04:41 PM)

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Good work everyone!

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Posted on 12-28-10 08:30:31 PM

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Did a little bit of research. In the credits for ALttP, Kazuaki Morita is credited as object programmer (video). He seems to have worked on practically every other Zelda game as well.

"Kazuaki M." is kinda like "kazuko+m", right? Or am I just jumping to conclusions again?

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