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Posted on 09-27-10 06:10:45 PM Link | Quote
Granted the sanctity of the founding fathers is a mythos held up by cheap superstition and political manipulation, but which one is your favorite?

My favorite is John Adams. I like him because he had principles and he wouldn't budge an inch on them. Nobody really liked Adams because of his ill disposition, but he still held his ground. Overall he was a brilliant lawyer and politician. He was actually the only one of the founding fathers that had any background in law too. He was the only founding father that did not own slaves. He was a great husband too. He and his wife had a real loving relationship. Mrs. Adams was awesome too. She owned her own import business and managed all of the estate's money (Adams was a very bad money manager). I guess the main reason I like Adams is that he seems so normal to me. His problems and shortcomings were very public and he made no attempt to hide them. He had family problems with his sons and marital problems when he was away in France for so long. I just really like how "normal" he is.
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Posted on 09-27-10 07:22:48 PM Link | Quote
Can't say I have a favorite, really. I never studied history in great detail besides what general knowledge you learn in US History. I do respect them for the ideals and principles they set for a developing country. Which is why I find this commercial very disrespectful. Leave it to a beer commercial to demoralize great men of our history:

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Posted on 09-27-10 09:07:04 PM Link | Quote
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Benjamin Franklin. An inventor and man of many talents, including Diplomacy. One of the more smart people there, although Thomas Jefferson's intelligence is also frightening.

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Posted on 09-27-10 09:32:20 PM Link | Quote
Chalk another one up for Benjamin Franklin. I could honestly write an entire book about why he's my favorite, since there are so many reasons that I admire him.

I'll keep it short this time, though, and say that as someone who is quite passionate about both science and writing, I'd be insane to not at least respect him.
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Posted on 09-27-10 09:39:20 PM Link | Quote
 
For Canada, I'd have to say the four fathers of Confederation who have been born (And lived) in or around Amherst, Nova Scotia. (That's where my parents live right now. I'm in Sydney, Nova Scotia going through college. Again. )
Jonathan McCully, Sir Charles Tupper, Robert Barry Dickey, and Edward Barron Chandler.

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Posted on 09-28-10 12:12:49 AM Link | Quote
Oh, I can't believe I didn't think of Canada or the countries that our European users come from. If you would like to share an influential person from your country's history then please do.
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Posted on 09-28-10 02:39:50 AM Link | Quote
Not much into this sort of thing but my husband is. He's got books and stuff.

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Posted on 09-28-10 08:55:08 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Anya
Not much into this sort of thing but my husband is. He's got books and stuff.


Haha I love your description, "He has got books and stuff". Very descriptive
Are the books about American history or World History? It's kind of stupid we lump the rest of the world into "World History" considering we ARE a part of the world, but I digress.
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Posted on 09-29-10 01:47:37 AM Link | Quote
American history.

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Posted on 09-30-10 03:25:40 AM Link | Quote
John Hancock

Real answer, Thomas Jefferson. Mainly because of the awesome stuff he did afterward like buy all that Louisiana Purchase land from Napoleon at what would be considered ridiculously low today. And then dying the same day as John Adams on the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration.

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Posted on 09-30-10 04:15:07 AM Link | Quote
Can't say I have a favorite Founding Father since not knowing them individually makes that an impossible task. They all set out with respectable and downright necessary principles that are now almost completely lost and at the when we need them more than probably ever proves how right the Founding Fathers were.

I can't exactly discredit the Founding Fathers since they had no idea that the world would become like this, but The constitution had some major oversights that are needed for worse-case scenarios included but not limited to the ability for the people to instantly override congress and/or the president in inane circumstances were as they'd be necessary (like now, heh) to prevent the country from facing obliteration or something that inherently infringes on personal freedoms and privacy.

Aside from that, I can't say I'm interested American History except American English; nothing more.

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Posted on 10-07-10 07:36:42 PM Link | Quote
How on earth did I miss this one? D:

We tend to deify the founding fathers, which... sorta bothers the shit outta me. They were people, just like us, with some (by modern standards) warped views on things. Owning other human beings, for example.

Regardless, I have a warm place in my heart for one Thomas Jefferson. I don't think any of the other founding fathers did so much for the concept of "Your religion is your own damn business, not mine."

Originally posted by Thomas Jefferson
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State.



Something the Tea Party tends to miss whilst yammering about the founding fathers and faith. "religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God." Nothin' at all to do with our government.

The fact that he compiled his own version of the bible with all the fantastical bits cut out is amazing, too.

So, yeah. Thomas Jefferson, protector of the church from government, and the government from church. My hero.

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Posted on 10-07-10 08:45:12 PM Link | Quote
Andrew Jackson. He might not be a founding father, but he's the most kickass president ever.

Real answer: Thomas Jefferson tied with Franklin. TJ was such a boss.
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Posted on 10-08-10 12:30:52 AM Link | Quote
Ben Franklin. That guy was the muddafuggin PIMP. Quite the jetsetter too.... shipsetter?

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Posted on 10-08-10 11:15:23 PM Link | Quote
Big Ben, if only because he managed to be a stud while managing several dozen aspects of the infrastructure of a new country.

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Posted on 10-09-10 12:32:34 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Viola
Ben Franklin. That guy was the muddafuggin PIMP. Quite the jetsetter too.... shipsetter?


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