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Posted on 09-05-10 10:48:16 PM (last edited by Flying Omelette at 09-05-10 09:51 PM) Link | Quote
I found some strange stuff in SNES HyperZone:


An unused Halken logo stored with the ending graphics. The big "HAL" on the left is used, but the "HALKEN" on the right with the logo above it is not. I wonder if it was in the Japanese version. I should probably play it to find out.


A Lolo sprite hidden with the ship upgrade graphics!



I'm not clear on what those square eyeball-like things are above him, though. But I don't know much about Lolo.


This is REALLY weird! During one particular part of the ending sequence, you're shown a background made of microchips. This is stored with the background data for that part - A part of the game's title in a font that isn't used anywhere, along with what looks like text for an Option menu! As far as I know, no such option menu exists unless it's hidden in the code. That option menu font is also different from any other font used in the game, even for the hidden Sound Test.

Someone with more hacking skills than I might want to check into this. There may be a way to activate that Option Menu...

Edit: Solved some of the mysteries...


Japanese opening demo vs. American opening demo. That's why that Halken logo was in there.


It's used in the ending, too.


Japanese title screen vs. American title screen.

That explains where that crazy font came from and why it's stored on the microchip background... because the Japanese title used that font and the microchip background was seen through the letters.

No word on that Option Menu yet, though. I could not find it on the Japanese version, although the same exact text for it is stored in the same exact spot. Also, the American version lets you access a sound test by holding L & R and pressing start at the title screen, but the Japanese version does not.
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Posted on 09-06-10 09:36:26 AM Link | Quote


Interesting that the second "1" has a green background...this usually indicates that the number was changed at some point, and the artist used the wrong palette entry to erase the original tile (though it doesn't matter much in the end, since both entries are black). The same thing happened with parts of SMB3's status bar.

Also: "Labolatory." Heehee.

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Posted on 09-06-10 10:03:10 AM (last edited by JLukas at 09-06-10 07:04 AM) Link | Quote
After searching around the title screen, what appears to be a previously undiscovered button code surfaced. Once the title screen is finished loading (the Start Normal text is displayed), enter the following:

Select, Select, A, B, Select, Select, X, Y, Select, Select, L, R, up

It sets $01 in 7E13B5, and turns the title screen red.

During gameplay, pressing Select toggles $04 in 7E13B7. It adds/removes a blur type effect to the background.

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Posted on 09-06-10 11:01:28 AM (last edited by Flying Omelette at 09-06-10 11:57 AM) Link | Quote
That looks to me like it was planned for the game to be used with 3D glasses like Rad Racer, but it was never fully-implemented. I think that should definitely be on the Wiki. Unfortunately, it's impossible to get a screenshot of it. Because the effect alternates frames, any screenshots taken look normal.


Left: Japanese version, Right: American version


Left: Japanese version, Right: American version

I also should probably mention that for some bizarre reason, the Material Factory and the Old Capital levels were switched around in the American version. This explains why the music for those stages is switched around in the Sound Test and also why the demo shows the ship you'd normally be using only in the Old Capital stage playing the Material Factory stage.


The left is what the demo shows and the right is the actual in-game level. You can't play as that green ship on the Material Factory level, it's impossible, but the demo is based on the Japanese version where the levels are switched and you do, in fact, play as that ship on the Material Factory.


Edit: This whole "3D Mode" thing has got me wondering now about Arcana/Card Master. I wonder if the reason Hal made an SNES RPG in first-person view is because they may have planned to apply the 3D effect to it, too...
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Posted on 09-07-10 10:01:01 PM Link | Quote
BTW, I'm trying to get a video of the 3D Mode of HyperZone posted since screenshots don't work, but YouTube is being really uncooperative with me.
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Posted on 09-08-10 12:42:18 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Flying Omelette
YouTube is being really uncooperative with me.
The SNES renders at 60 frames per second and Youtube cuts every other frame to reduce it to 30 frames per second.

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Posted on 09-08-10 12:48:54 AM Link | Quote
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So you could just duplicate every frame?

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Posted on 09-08-10 01:10:40 AM Link | Quote
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YouTube is being really uncooperative with me.
The SNES renders at 60 frames per second and Youtube cuts every other frame to reduce it to 30 frames per second.


Well that's just prime.

I'll have to figure out something else, then...

Originally posted by Rena
So you could just duplicate every frame?


I don't know how. =(
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Posted on 09-08-10 01:11:37 AM Link | Quote
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Most video editors will have an option to adjust the frame rate; just halving it might do. I don't know for sure.

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Posted on 09-08-10 01:23:59 AM Link | Quote
If it's an AVI, you can change the video frame rate (but not the audio speed!) using something like this before you upload. With that specific tool, change scale to 1 and rate to 30. (FPS should automatically change to 30.)

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Posted on 09-08-10 05:21:14 PM Link | Quote
Just wanted to say that the tiles are the matching for the title screen. It uses different outlines for different letters (*duh*) and the same tiles on the inside.

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Posted on 09-08-10 08:25:14 PM Link | Quote
Hmm... as I work with video on an infrequent basis, 'SAR' automatically makes me think of 'Standard Aspect Ratio' first and foremost. ECD appears to be a type of monitor (all these years, and why haven't I heard of an ECD monitor? ) So, maybe having the monitor connected allowed you to switch into a different aspect ratio, possibly higher resolution... and the blur effect would probably look different between a CRT and a monitor, right?

If the SNES/Super Famicom can detect whether or not it's connected to a monitor, maybe that option (if it was actually implemented) only appeared when it was connected to an ECD monitor. I wonder if there was any reference to it (or at least using it with a monitor) in the Super Famicom version's instruction book.

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Posted on 09-08-10 08:53:10 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tauwasser
Just wanted to say that the tiles are the matching for the title screen. It uses different outlines for different letters (*duh*) and the same tiles on the inside.

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I don't quite understand.



The "O" and the "N" look a bit different to my eyes.
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Posted on 09-08-10 09:17:23 PM Link | Quote
They may look different, but when you get in close and examine them tile by tile, you'll see those are the same tiles with all the extra space between them removed. The two parallel lines in the "skinny" N don't touch each other's tile, and the O just has the flat horizontal parts in the middle removed to give the appearance of a smooth continuous curve.

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Posted on 09-08-10 09:18:54 PM Link | Quote
Oh, I see. Thanks. I'll fix that in the wiki.
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Posted on 09-08-10 09:31:41 PM (last edited by Peardian at 09-08-10 06:32 PM) Link | Quote
On the subject of 3D Video, I know I've seen Youtube videos specifically set up to show 3D video (with multiple options on which method to display it, even) but I have no idea how that would be set up. I just know that they do accomodate it somehow. I wish I knew more about it to help.

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About the "SAR" and "EDC", I'd guess the former simply is supposed to be "START", reusing the "T" of "OPTION". This doesn't explain "EDC" yet, tho, but it's probably another word reusing "O", "P", "T", "S", "A" and/or "R", but probably not the "ION", as that appears to be squished onto those three tiles and not spread evenly (8-8-8 pixels).


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Posted on 09-09-10 02:05:29 AM Link | Quote
What the deuce?





I don't know why the video does that in Winamp. =/
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Posted on 09-09-10 02:29:01 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Flying Omelette
I don't know why the video does that in Winamp. =/
It's probably an uncompressed format. How big is the file?

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198 megs. And stupid YouTube couldn't convert it. Time to try something else.
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line 589 column 345 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 647 column 345 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 771 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 220 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 222 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 222 column 155 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 222 column 366 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 222 column 460 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 222 column 543 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 222 column 646 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 222 column 728 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 226 column 1360 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 226 column 1451 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 226 column 1628 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 226 column 1812 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 250 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 284 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 324 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 350 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 352 column 871 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 376 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 403 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 438 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 465 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 467 column 884 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
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line 521 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 551 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 587 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 592 column 965 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 619 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 645 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 650 column 881 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
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line 708 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 740 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 742 column 820 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 766 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 362 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md