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| Jul - The Cutting Room Floor - Zelda: 1, 2, 3. |  -  -  |
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| Xkeeper Level: 263      Posts: 17560/25343 EXP: 296721294 For next: 2239159 Since: 07-03-07 Pronouns: they/them/???????? Since last post: 9 days Last activity: 3 days |
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| nensondubois seek help please Level: 49  Posts: 142/551 EXP: 852710 For next: 31173 Since: 05-30-10 Since last post: 7.8 years Last activity: 7.8 years |
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Originally posted by Prince Kassad I don't know; I'm just pointing out that there are two FDS versions in case someone wants to look. ____________________ blue bullet milking |
| Rick M'Lord, there's a knife in your head! Level: 152  Posts: 590/7539 EXP: 43669504 For next: 632156 Since: 02-15-10 From: Maine Since last post: 113 days Last activity: 45 days |
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| I'd be willing to bet that the former would be the best way to find if there's any unused stuff present. However, the FDS ROM I have of it doesn't specify which version it is, so SOL there. ____________________ |
| nensondubois seek help please Level: 49 Posts: 143/551 EXP: 852710 For next: 31173 Since: 05-30-10 Since last post: 7.8 years Last activity: 7.8 years |
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Yeah, but it still is always good to check both version out just in case. I see plenty of places offering both versions for download. Sorry for dragging this on a little, it could be overlooked because of 1.1 is a higher version and they may have different unused content or whatever the case may be.
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| Rick M'Lord, there's a knife in your head! Level: 152 Posts: 604/7539 EXP: 43669504 For next: 632156 Since: 02-15-10 From: Maine Since last post: 113 days Last activity: 45 days |
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| If I can find the 1.0 ROM, I'll take a leap into the graphics to see if I can find anything odd or different. I'll leave the version differences to someone else who's more experienced with the game than I. ____________________ |
| Liliana "A horrible person". That's what it says. "A horrible person." We weren't even testing for that. Level: NaN Posts: 1872/-3841 EXP: NaN For next: 0 Since: 07-23-07 Since last post: 10.2 years Last activity: 10.1 years |
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At the very least, a hex compare would be useful. That way, we would be able to see what has changed.
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| nensondubois seek help please Level: 49 Posts: 145/551 EXP: 852710 For next: 31173 Since: 05-30-10 Since last post: 7.8 years Last activity: 7.8 years |
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Originally posted by Prince Kassad I should have thought of that earlier. After comparing the two files, I have found a considerable amount of differences between V1.0 and 1.1. heh ____________________ blue bullet milking |
| Rick M'Lord, there's a knife in your head! Level: 152 Posts: 617/7539 EXP: 43669504 For next: 632156 Since: 02-15-10 From: Maine Since last post: 113 days Last activity: 45 days |
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| Anything that sticks out like a sore thumb right off the bat you can tell us, or you savin' it all to be evil? :p ____________________ |
| Flying Omelette Member Green-handled, pearl-encrusted abelnuski Level: 35  Posts: 78/257 EXP: 271981 For next: 7955 Since: 05-19-10 From: Ohio Since last post: 11.2 years Last activity: 10.9 years |
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| I realize this is a topic for Zelda 1, 2, and 3, but I felt this was still the best place to post this. There's some more unused dialogue in Zelda: Ocarina of Time, according to this site. (Scroll down to "text dump oddities".) Once again, I could be wrong, but I certainly don't recognize any of the things the author claims are unused. |
| Xkeeper Level: 263 Posts: 17567/25343 EXP: 296721294 For next: 2239159 Since: 07-03-07 Pronouns: they/them/???????? Since last post: 9 days Last activity: 3 days |
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| Liliana "A horrible person". That's what it says. "A horrible person." We weren't even testing for that. Level: NaN Posts: 1874/-3841 EXP: NaN For next: 0 Since: 07-23-07 Since last post: 10.2 years Last activity: 10.1 years |
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I think the Navi one is used somewhere, if only because it is not listed as unused on the Notes: page.
The others are more interesting. Maybe there's more where that came from. ____________________ |
| Flying Omelette Member Green-handled, pearl-encrusted abelnuski Level: 35 Posts: 79/257 EXP: 271981 For next: 7955 Since: 05-19-10 From: Ohio Since last post: 11.2 years Last activity: 10.9 years |
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Originally posted by Xkeeper Yeah. I know some of them are, but not all of them. |
| Liliana "A horrible person". That's what it says. "A horrible person." We weren't even testing for that. Level: NaN Posts: 1875/-3841 EXP: NaN For next: 0 Since: 07-23-07 Since last post: 10.2 years Last activity: 10.1 years |
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Found this on Google while copy-pasting one of the unused messages into the search box. Some of them are mentioned neither on your link nor on the wiki page.
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| Aoi Member Level: 30  Posts: 5/181 EXP: 159648 For next: 6221 Since: 07-18-10 Since last post: 9.9 years Last activity: 9.9 years |
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Originally posted by Rick If you're still wondering which version it is/was, there was a utility created some years ago called "FDS Spray," which is largely a GoodTools-like verifier for FDS images. There's some other things you can do with it, but I don't remember what. It may be hard to find these days, but I know they have it at Zophar's Domain. As for the 'river devil,' it's been ages since I've played Zelda 2, but could that simply be another vague reference to the 'next' castle monster you'd have to fight? (Gah - now I'm going to have to play it. First xkeeper inadvertently makes me want to run through Link's Awakening, again, and now this.  )Did they actually bother lengthening the amount of text in the dialog windows, or just try to fit their translation in the original text's space? |
| Rick M'Lord, there's a knife in your head! Level: 152 Posts: 641/7539 EXP: 43669504 For next: 632156 Since: 02-15-10 From: Maine Since last post: 113 days Last activity: 45 days |
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| They pretty much tried to translate within the text space they were given. I notice them screw grammar and such to get in all the necessary info. Also, reason I mention River Devil is because they also make a reference to something similar about the Devil hating noise. ...Hey wait just a second. Isn't Nintendo the one who avoided religious symbolism? Crosses everywhere, "Devil" in this game, etc. Buh? o.o ____________________ |
| Aoi Member Level: 30 Posts: 6/181 EXP: 159648 For next: 6221 Since: 07-18-10 Since last post: 9.9 years Last activity: 9.9 years |
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It was probably not that long before they realized, "Hey, we can change the graphics!"  (Then again, they did have crosses in Sanctuary in LTTP, didn't they? Sure, it's a church, but who's counting?) I wonder if they received flack for that; Nintendo didn't originally seem that heavy-handed on matters of religion and death in games (IMO). |
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| Aoi Member Level: 30 Posts: 7/181 EXP: 159648 For next: 6221 Since: 07-18-10 Since last post: 9.9 years Last activity: 9.9 years |
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| Hard to say, really. There are examples on the wiki showing SNES games that were censored (not counting the MK blood debacles), like Lufia 2 and at least one of the Breath of Fire games (there's more than that, I know). Rick commented on the changes to Final Fight in another topic. I know Castlevania 3 was edited, somewhat (to tone down religious symbolism, etc.) and the Famicom game "Devil World" (or was that "Demon World"? I've played it, and I can't even remember the title.) was supposedly not considered because of the crosses, etc., in the game. The removal of all the Hitler references in the game that would become Bionic Commando probably counts, too, I guess. So, if anything, they probably started somewhere in the NES era and let it build in intensity from there. |
| Flying Omelette Member Green-handled, pearl-encrusted abelnuski Level: 35 Posts: 80/257 EXP: 271981 For next: 7955 Since: 05-19-10 From: Ohio Since last post: 11.2 years Last activity: 10.9 years |
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| TheAlmightyGuru has an article about uncensored religion in NES games. NOA's censorship was extremely random. They also tended to be tougher on other companies' games then their own. They allowed topless Venus de Milo statues in Kid Icarus, but topless statues in some of the Castlevania games and Maniac Mansion were covered up or removed altogether. |
| Rick M'Lord, there's a knife in your head! Level: 152 Posts: 642/7539 EXP: 43669504 For next: 632156 Since: 02-15-10 From: Maine Since last post: 113 days Last activity: 45 days |
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| Yeah, I'd say so. But enough about the censorship thingy, that's a whole 'nother topic whatsoever. Any more headway on Zelda II stuff, since we were talking about that before? ____________________ |
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