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Posted on 08-27-10 04:46:25 PM Link | Quote
There you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecVBGq2fdR4
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Posted on 08-27-10 05:19:44 PM Link | Quote
Awesome job. I'm surprised it worked so well. Think you could get a high quality screenshot of the Pole Unizo Zone for the wiki? Something other than a jpeggy capture from your video.


I've been looking through stuff but so far have found nothing else of interest.

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Posted on 08-27-10 05:23:12 PM (last edited by skawo at 08-27-10 03:33 PM) Link | Quote
I can get you a HD dolphin screen, just wait a minute.


...or not, it crashes for some reason.
Sorry.

EDIT: This is the best I can get for now;


And also;


And a bonus:
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Posted on 08-27-10 08:23:46 PM (last edited by Peardian at 08-27-10 11:07 PM) Link | Quote
Awesome. The fact that the Pole Unizo Planet has water that wasn't part of the model like I anticipated makes me wonder if that Star Dust Star planet would have had it, too, as someone suggested earlier. It certainly seems to have the structure for it.


Thanks for this, skawo.


Edit: I could spend an entire day or two just looking through these level files. One small design change I noticed is that the hole planet in the Megaleg level is part of BattleShipKillerPlanetZone. Looks like the intended for it to go in Battlerock when they turned it into metal.


Edit: I've noticed that a good number of these zones have a "debug position" in them. Think there's a way we can make use of them? Or at least find a way to locate them and document them that way?

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Posted on 08-28-10 05:59:16 AM (last edited by skawo at 08-28-10 05:09 AM) Link | Quote
I don't know about debug position.

I did a quick scan-though Galaxy 2 zone and object files, and it looks like we won't find much there.
Folders for E3 Galaxy files exist, but they're empty.
There's a bunch of "test" zones, but the non-empty ones are used (for example FollowerDrillTest1Zone), and the rest is simply empty.

You might have more luck in ObjectData though, but I wouldn't be surprised if they cleaned everything.

Also, I tried spawning some enemies;
Donketu, DonketuKing and Kinopi fail to spawn.

I can load any model and animation though;
TetuKuri;
IceMan;
Donketu;
BossCrab;
OctoQueen;


If you have any desires as what to show in-game, or want to see Throwback Galaxy acting as a Goomba, just ask.
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Posted on 08-28-10 11:11:22 AM Link | Quote
It would be cool to see BillBoarder with BillDog and BillBird in a video.

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Posted on 08-28-10 11:44:27 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by oaa
It would be cool to see BillBoarder with BillDog and BillBird in a video.


Aren't they just flat textures?
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Posted on 08-28-10 12:15:50 PM (last edited by Afti at 08-28-10 09:19 AM) Link | Quote
I'd love to see Dragon Head Flower.

Bathtub Planet would also be interesting, to see if the game actually handles hot water differently.

EDIT: Also, Sand Golem, since we can't see THAT in a viewer!

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Posted on 08-28-10 12:52:22 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by skawo
Originally posted by oaa
It would be cool to see BillBoarder with BillDog and BillBird in a video.


Aren't they just flat textures?



IIRC Billboarder is a model made out of balls and has over 50 animations.

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Posted on 08-28-10 01:39:55 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by oaa
Originally posted by skawo
Originally posted by oaa
It would be cool to see BillBoarder with BillDog and BillBird in a video.


Aren't they just flat textures?



IIRC Billboarder is a model made out of balls and has over 50 animations.


According to the wiki, it's just flat bubble textures. So the animations won't show much, only the bubbles moving
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Posted on 08-28-10 03:23:16 PM Link | Quote
Ooooh, nifty. I second Afti's suggestions, especially the Sand Golem. And Throwback Galaxy doing what? I've got to see that. XD

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Posted on 08-28-10 03:46:48 PM (last edited by skawo at 08-28-10 12:50 PM) Link | Quote
Allright
Well, there are most of the requests, except I didn't do BillBird and BillDog, since those are just other billboarder shapes, and also the Sand Golem - it appears in the game as nothing but a small generic circle shadow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-8d4P3j7lM

Excuse me how the video cuts out at the end. The water has the exact same property as lava.
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Posted on 08-28-10 03:56:16 PM (last edited by Peardian at 08-28-10 01:00 PM) Link | Quote
Dragonhead Flower is a lot more awesome than I imagined. So bouncey! And it's intriguing how the bathtub water hurts Mario like lava without the burn. I seem to recall something else in the game doing that, but I can't remember what.


I was afraid that SandGolem would be like that. The main body has essentially no model. The only way we'll be able to see it in full is if we somehow located the SandGolem object that ties all three of his parts together. But if that's the only object, then it looks like we won't be able to see it in action.

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Posted on 08-28-10 05:31:14 PM Link | Quote
It would be really cool to see the beta buoy base, Skawo.

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Posted on 08-28-10 05:33:25 PM Link | Quote
The thing about that one is, it's a low model, so it might not have collision for it. You'd have to fly around it to look at it, presumably.

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Posted on 08-28-10 06:35:15 PM (last edited by skawo at 08-28-10 03:36 PM) Link | Quote
Nothing very interesting about it; just a low model of beta design with _really_ bad textures
Maybe that the parts in the water actually _are_ modeled. Sorta.

Anyhoo, screen




(Oh, and, obviously it does not have collision, so I just applied non-low model's collision )
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Originally posted by Peardian
And it's intriguing how the bathtub water hurts Mario like lava without the burn. I seem to recall something else in the game doing that, but I can't remember what.


Spikes?

or freezing water but probably not.

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Ah, that's it. The spikes in SMG2.


Oh, I thought of something to try swapping in: TogeBegoman. Of course, if the functionality isn't there, there wouldn't be much to see other than a headless Topman puttering around like a Goomba.

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I can make it load with Topman's normal functionality ;P
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Hmmm, I just thought of something. Sound effects and sequences? Know any way we could look for unused ones there? I don't quite know if that's out of our league right now, because as far as I know there isn't anything that can interpret/play the sequences, like in_cube/whatever can do for streams.

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line 798 column 345 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 807 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
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line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 204 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 278 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 386 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md