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Posted on 06-06-10 08:40:55 PM (last edited by SGR at 06-06-10 05:54 PM) Link | Quote
http://snesmusic.org/v2/profile.php?profile=set&selected=20103

Apparently another sort of "test" cartridge has been dumped but I can't find a ROM image of it. I'm bringing this up because we all know the treasure trove that was in the last one, perhaps this one could have some interesting innards as well?

Also, if you take a listen to that set, some unused "music" (more like sounds) was already found in it. Interesting music is in it too. Ever wanted to hear a pure SNES version of the Zelda II title screen? There you go.
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Posted on 06-07-10 01:30:22 AM (last edited by nensondubois at 06-06-10 10:33 PM) Link | Quote
The rom hasn't been released yet (but if you want it, I'll gladly give it) becasue no matter what emulator you use, you will see graphic glitches making the menu unreadable, as well as making the Super Scope tests unusable. I'm still trying to figure out why it is bad. The guy who dumped it for me stated that it works fine using a flashcard on a real SNES console. I don't have a SNES Powerpak to see it working on my SNES, but the cart itself works normally on my three SNES systems so I don't know what's wrong. I de-interleaved the rom with no avail. I'm getting a few copying utilities for myself to make a flawless copy.
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Posted on 06-07-10 02:21:30 AM Link | Quote
As long as the graphics are readable from some tile viewer I'd be happy.
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Posted on 06-07-10 04:38:20 AM Link | Quote
Releasing it to a broader audience would probably make it possible to figure out what is wrong (if anything).

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Posted on 06-07-10 05:35:45 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Releasing it to a broader audience would probably make it possible to figure out what is wrong (if anything).


I'm speculating it's an emulator-side issue. The SNES burn-in test cart was designed to heavily rely on hardware. A similar problem is in the form of the Knuckles Chaotix December 7th prototype in that it used prototype 32x hardware, and when played on an emulator, was rather unstable (however playable to a degree).
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Posted on 06-07-10 08:22:38 AM Link | Quote
Have you tried bsnes? If it glitches there, you know you've got a bad/incorrectly-formatted dump.

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Posted on 06-07-10 02:52:23 PM Link | Quote
bsnes was the first emulator I tried. Maybe it does need hardware but then again, the Burn-in test works perfectly on bsnes. I'll release it on digitpress in a few days or so in it's current form.

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Posted on 06-07-10 03:29:52 PM Link | Quote
"Current form"? I hope you mean the unmodified dump (it's hard to tell)

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Posted on 06-08-10 07:27:49 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by SGR
A similar problem is in the form of the Knuckles Chaotix December 7th prototype in that it used prototype 32x hardware, and when played on an emulator, was rather unstable (however playable to a degree).

I thought that had to do with the fact that most 32X emulators use game specific timing hacks to run.
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Posted on 06-08-10 07:37:21 AM Link | Quote
Is that the same proto that has a constant noise coming from the PWM hardware? If so, I'm pretty sure someone examined that one and discovered that it was sending improperly-formatted data to the 32X, which might indicate that they were using an older hardware design.

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Posted on 06-08-10 06:03:13 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gunstar Green
Is that the same proto that has a constant noise coming from the PWM hardware? If so, I'm pretty sure someone examined that one and discovered that it was sending improperly-formatted data to the 32X, which might indicate that they were using an older hardware design.


Yeah, this is what I was getting at, and Sintendo is correct as well. Both were issues regarding that prototype. I believe one has been fixed in the latest Kega Fusion update (timing issue) however the PWM hardware problem... not too sure about that. Even though the timing issue is fixed, the prototype is still kinda unstable.

But anyway this is kinda getting off-topic. Nensondubois, is there anything of note in this SNES test cartridge?
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Posted on 06-08-10 08:23:32 PM Link | Quote
Asside from the Zelda II music, there are various test for the SNES accessories, including the mouse and Super Scope. There is also the same alpha super Mario sprites present in the other test cartridge, and can be viewed in a tile viewer.

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Posted on 06-09-10 04:22:58 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by nensondubois
The rom hasn't been released yet (but if you want it, I'll gladly give it)


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Posted on 06-09-10 04:27:11 AM (last edited by SGR at 06-09-10 01:27 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gunstar Green
Originally posted by nensondubois
The rom hasn't been released yet (but if you want it, I'll gladly give it)


http://wiki.rustedlogic.net/images/8/87/SNES_Burn-in_Test_Cartridge_Super_Mario_World_Beta_Elements.png
(un-img'd due to transparency)

There's this. I don't see any differences offhand other than the weird palette. It's only a sliver, once he releases the ROM maybe we'll find more.
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Posted on 06-09-10 05:13:47 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, that's...exactly what we already have.

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Posted on 06-09-10 05:30:26 AM Link | Quote
It's not exactly the same, that picture has graphics for a Podobo that the other SNES Test Program doesn't have.
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Posted on 06-09-10 02:11:55 PM Link | Quote
And here it is (Kikoskia's voice)!

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1731935#post1731935

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Posted on 06-09-10 04:16:52 PM Link | Quote
Hmmm...is this even a complete dump? The existing test cart is 1 MB, but this one's only 128 KB... :|

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Posted on 06-09-10 05:36:28 PM Link | Quote
Unless Retrode is wrong when it made the copy.

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Posted on 06-09-10 08:16:29 PM Link | Quote
I would definitely be inclined to think this is a bad dump, especially if it breaks in emulators. Bad dumps happen. Maybe send it to someone else for a verification?

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line 641 column 728 - Warning: <td> attribute "align" has invalid value "top"
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line 696 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 207 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 259 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 474 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
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line 502 column 155 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 502 column 366 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 502 column 460 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 502 column 543 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 502 column 646 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 502 column 728 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 502 column 1159 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 502 column 1250 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 502 column 1427 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 502 column 1611 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
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line 557 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 559 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 559 column 155 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 559 column 366 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 559 column 460 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 559 column 543 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 559 column 646 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 559 column 728 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 561 column 1056 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 561 column 1147 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 561 column 1324 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 561 column 1508 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 585 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 611 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 639 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 641 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 641 column 155 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 641 column 366 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 641 column 460 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 641 column 543 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 641 column 646 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 641 column 728 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 641 column 1006 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 641 column 1097 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 641 column 1274 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 641 column 1458 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 665 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 691 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 387 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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