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Posted on 03-23-10 07:08:13 PM Link
Okay, using this editor on a Mac is abysmal. It always crashes. You can't delete in bulk and you can't delete entrances/exits/views/zones either. You also can't make patches. Here's the error when it crashes:
Tue Mar 23 20:06:04 Camewels-MacBook-Pro.local mono[66282] : kCGErrorCannotComplete: CGSDeviceSynchronize: Invalid device window
It spews that up more times than Terminal (basically mac cmd) can cope with. Dirb, Treeki, do either of you know what's going on?
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Posted on 03-23-10 07:15:19 PM Link
Wow, thanks for giving the thread a useful title.


NSMBe5 doesn't run perfectly on Mono. I've never tried running it on OS X so I don't know what could be wrong.

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Posted on 03-23-10 07:29:42 PM (last edited by krutomisi at 03-23-10 04:30 PM) Link

Originally posted by Camewel
Invalid device window

I'ma gonna guess that the program is referencing something that's moved in mono

If it's really important, you could make a program for doing the patches in non-windows systems.



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Posted on 03-23-10 07:49:41 PM Link
Yeah, I could try to...

What do you mean? Create patches or apply patches?
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Posted on 03-23-10 08:36:51 PM Link
It doesn't make. I haven't tried applying yet. I also can't import exported levels or delete all objects or sprites.
Also, it there's any way you can have alternatives to the Del and Ctrl buttons, as macs don't have them.
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Posted on 03-24-10 05:47:01 PM Link


I never had a Mac and i have no idea why all that stuff doesnt work.
How could I fix it?
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Posted on 03-24-10 08:12:20 PM Link
Y'know, I'm just going to go get a Windows computer to save you guys the trouble.
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Posted on 03-24-10 08:20:25 PM Link
Originally posted by Camewel
Y'know, I'm just going to go get a Windows computer to save you guys the trouble.

Why not just use Boot Camp?

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Posted on 03-24-10 08:37:45 PM Link
1) It's a pain switching between OSs and I don't want to use Windows for anything but the bare minimum as it sucks.
3) That's 192 pounds I'm not getting back whereas I can probably get an old windows computer for free from my dad's work.
D) I don't want my hard drive messed with.
Next) I lost count, but that's some goot reasons.
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Posted on 03-25-10 06:02:58 AM Link
Yeah, I understand...

I'll see if I can get a Mac running, either on my (tiny) HDD or on a VM.
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Posted on 03-25-10 07:05:51 AM (last edited by angelsl at 03-25-10 04:11 AM) Link
Originally posted by Camewel
1) It's a pain switching between OSs and I don't want to use Windows for anything but the bare minimum as it sucks.
3) That's 192 pounds I'm not getting back whereas I can probably get an old windows computer for free from my dad's work.
D) I don't want my hard drive messed with.
Next) I lost count, but that's some goot reasons.


No, those are dumb reasons.

Firstly, a Mac DOES have the Control key. Look carefully.

2. Why don't you want your HDD messed with? It's even supported by Apple! You can always uninstall it. It doesn't touch your Mac partition.

Dirbaio: Does it work in Linux, if yes, then it should work fine on Mac as well...
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Posted on 03-25-10 10:00:15 AM Link

Originally posted by angelsl
Does it work in Linux, if yes, then it should work fine on Mac as well...


Yeah, Apple ripped off a hefty part of BSD a while ago,
causing their OS to become a UNIX based system.


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Posted on 03-25-10 04:02:39 PM (last edited by Camewel at 03-25-10 01:04 PM) Link
Originally posted by angelsl
Originally posted by Camewel
1) It's a pain switching between OSs and I don't want to use Windows for anything but the bare minimum as it sucks.
3) That's 192 pounds I'm not getting back whereas I can probably get an old windows computer for free from my dad's work.
D) I don't want my hard drive messed with.
Next) I lost count, but that's some goot reasons.


No, those are dumb reasons.

Firstly, a Mac DOES have the Control key. Look carefully.

2. Why don't you want your HDD messed with? It's even supported by Apple! You can always uninstall it. It doesn't touch your Mac partition.

Dirbaio: Does it work in Linux, if yes, then it should work fine on Mac as well...


No, quite clearly you're stupid.
The mac control key doesn't work as a control key, douche.
Because I'd like to keep my HDD for my files, no waste loads on windows.
IT DOESN'T WORK ON A MAC THOUGH, SO YOUR REASONING IS CRAP.
You also forgot the £192 pounds of my cash, and if you think that's not important, I'd like £192 pounds of YOUR cash then.
Basically, go away.

Originally posted by krutomisi
Originally posted by angelsl
Does it work in Linux, if yes, then it should work fine on Mac as well...


Yeah, Apple ripped off a hefty part of BSD a while ago,
causing their OS to become a UNIX based system.

Oh, and you suck too. He meant because they both run it on mono (that, or he's a real douche). OSX is not even nearly the same as Linux.
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Posted on 03-25-10 07:07:52 PM (last edited by krutomisi at 03-25-10 04:13 PM) Link

Originally posted by Camewel
OSX is not even nearly the same as Linux.
Originally posted by apple.com/opensource
Major components of Mac OS X, including the UNIX core



Anyways, have you tried the editor in wine?

Chances are it won't load at all, but if it does, the patching might work.

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Posted on 03-25-10 07:13:39 PM Link
Hmmm... No.
.NET framework is hard / impossible to get to work with wine.
Mono is the best choice.
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Posted on 03-25-10 07:56:39 PM Link
Originally posted by Camewel
No, quite clearly you're stupid.
The mac control key doesn't work as a control key, douche.

...

Basically, go away.

...

Oh, and you suck too.

... Hold off on the flaming a little, will you? :| I don't think you should be insulting the people who are trying to help you with your problem.

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Posted on 03-25-10 08:17:35 PM Link
Originally posted by Treeki
Originally posted by Camewel
No, quite clearly you're stupid.
The mac control key doesn't work as a control key, douche.

...

Basically, go away.

...

Oh, and you suck too.

... Hold off on the flaming a little, will you? :| I don't think you should be insulting the people who are trying to help you with your problem.


If they would try and help, instead of spewing unhelpful stuff and treating me like I'm retarded, there'd be no need.
But I see your meaning, i just go on rants sometimes.
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Posted on 03-25-10 09:03:54 PM Link
they're not treating you like a retard. It's called troubleshooting. They don't have your computer in front of them. They don't have all the facts. How the fuck do you expect them to help you if they don't know what works and doesn't?
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Posted on 03-25-10 09:12:40 PM Link

I would use mah psychic powers, but I'm all out of quarters


Do older versions of the editor have the patcher in it?

If they do,
there's a chance that they will work better with mono.
Or muuuuch worse.

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Posted on 03-25-10 09:12:42 PM Link
Originally posted by m64m
they're not treating you like a retard. It's called troubleshooting. They don't have your computer in front of them. They don't have all the facts. How the fuck do you expect them to help you if they don't know what works and doesn't?


...dude, chill. This got resolved ages ago. Then other people came along being unhelpful. You can hardly calling my perfectly legitimate reasons why I didn't use an alternative 'dumb' (which means unable to talk, btw), and then implying that I was lying helpful can you? You weren't in this pointless debate and you needn't be. Just leave it. It's over.
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line 485 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 485 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 485 column 231 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 485 column 274 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 485 column 317 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 485 column 360 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 485 column 360 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 485 column 403 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 567 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 567 column 59 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 567 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 567 column 102 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 567 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 567 column 145 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 567 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 567 column 188 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 567 column 188 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 567 column 231 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 567 column 231 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 567 column 274 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 567 column 274 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 567 column 317 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 567 column 317 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 567 column 360 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 567 column 403 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 587 column 601 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 587 column 601 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 600 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 628 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 628 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 628 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 665 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 666 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 677 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 705 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 705 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 705 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 705 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 706 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 716 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 730 column 16 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 730 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 730 column 59 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 730 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 730 column 102 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 730 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 730 column 145 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 730 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 730 column 188 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 730 column 188 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 730 column 231 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 730 column 231 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 730 column 274 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 730 column 274 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 730 column 317 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 730 column 317 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 730 column 360 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 730 column 360 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 730 column 403 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 730 column 403 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 731 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 731 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 731 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 731 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 732 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 742 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 750 column 367 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 750 column 367 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 764 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 765 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 765 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 765 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 776 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 794 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 794 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 794 column 216 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 803 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 808 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 788 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 205 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 236 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 238 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 268 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 296 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 323 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 352 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 378 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 407 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 436 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 465 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 502 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 504 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 533 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 584 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 586 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 616 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 644 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 682 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 721 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 747 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 749 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 781 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 366 warnings and 1 error!

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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