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Posted on 02-15-10 06:53:31 PM (last edited by Bagel at 02-15-10 04:10 PM) Link | Quote
I really ... had reservations about making a thread about this at all, since ... it's just a layout. Doesn't exactly feel thread-worthy to me, I suppose. :/

I'm no CSS wizard or anything. I had a hell of a time getting the links to work properly without accidentally the whole page because I'm an idiot, but thankfully hydra pointed out what I was doing wrong.

The fonts used are Myriad Pro, Lucida Grande, Lucida Sans Unicode, or Tahoma. It looks best in Myriad Pro but doesn't look bad at all in the others, except maybe Tahoma. You'll probably only have Myriad Pro if you also have some Adobe product like Photoshop installed, so I expect most people will see it in Lucida Sans Unicode or Lucida Grande (which are 99% the same font anyway so maybe Lucida Grande being in the code isn't really necessary.)

Also ... web 2.0 gloss whoo yeah party. But then it just fades to black and probably looks terrible if I make a longer post.

Mainly I'm just curious if it's hard to read or something. It looks like this for me.

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Posted on 02-15-10 07:28:17 PM Link | Quote

Add "-webkit-border-radius: 6px;" to the CSS for that <td> to get it to look like that in Chrome

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Posted on 02-15-10 07:53:02 PM (last edited by Bagel at 02-15-10 04:55 PM) Link | Quote
Ah, yes. I knew I'd forgotten to do something.

Should look fine now.

I catered the glossy background image to match up with the vertical height of what most of my posts appear to be. I think I got it pretty close but not perfect. I think ... for this post, for example, it'd need one or two more lines. Maybe. I dunno.

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Posted on 02-15-10 08:51:32 PM Link | Quote
The text is a bit tiny here, but otherwise wooo pretty shiny.

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Posted on 02-15-10 08:55:25 PM Link | Quote

Yeah, the layout really looks great

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Posted on 02-16-10 01:08:20 AM Link | Quote
Supakitsune
Only thing I can really think of is, as BMF said, the text could be a touch larger.

Otherwise, it's pretty nice.

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Posted on 02-16-10 01:43:41 AM (last edited by Bagel at 02-15-10 10:45 PM) Link | Quote
Bumped it up to 13.75 (from 13.) How is that?

It looks a bit better on my end, too.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

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Posted on 02-16-10 01:59:46 AM Link | Quote
Supakitsune
Originally posted by Bagel
Bumped it up to 13.75 (from 13.) How is that?

It looks a bit better on my end, too.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
This works a lot better. It's perfect now

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Posted on 02-16-10 02:51:28 AM Link | Quote

Lain's post №642

Hmm.... it still seems small.

Then again, I'm reading this all on a 22" 1080p TV so that's just me.

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Posted on 02-21-10 05:10:38 PM (last edited by Bagel at 02-21-10 07:35 PM) Link | Quote
Added some needless eye candy. If you are running a browser with Gecko 1.9.3 (currently in alpha so I don't expect this) or anything based on a recent version of WebKit (Safari 4.0.4 or Chrome for example) there should be smooth animations when hovering over links. The shadow animates in one second and the text changes color over three.
This is a quote test. Lorem ipsum etc. Lalalalalala. I wish more browsers supported color specification in the form of #rrggbbaa because having to expand it to rgba(r,g,b,a) is a little cumbersome. At any rate this quote thing is translucent. I'm on a horse.

I am pretty excited over some of the neat stuff that is already implemented, despite CSS3 not being even close to complete.

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Posted on 02-21-10 05:26:12 PM Link | Quote
Impressive, pretty, and fun to look at.

It still looks pretty good even in browsers that don't fully support the CSS for it.

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Posted on 02-21-10 06:28:18 PM Link | Quote
It still seems a bit small and hard to read for me. I'm reading it in Mryiad Pro at 1440x900 in Opera. I think its because the text is always bold. It just feels too thick for me. This, and the kerning seems too close together. Maybe you can remove the bold, and increase the font a little to compensate for readability? Other than that though, great job.

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Posted on 02-21-10 06:50:40 PM (last edited by Bagel at 02-21-10 03:54 PM) Link | Quote
It's bold?

*checks post in Opera*

Other than the rounded corners not working or the animations, it looks fine and readable to me in both Opera 10.10, and in the 10.5 alpha (there's no Mac beta yet.) However the rest of jul seems to have a lot of REALLY tiny text in Opera.

I haven't specified any font-weight or anything anywhere so it should be using the font weight specified in the jul stylesheet. It could just be the way you have your font settings configured. The kerning is a little condensed in Myriad Pro already, I suppose. It's better when the font size is a little larger I guess.

However I'll bump the size up to 14 anyway ... also since the links were getting a little hard to read, I changed them purple.

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Posted on 02-21-10 07:13:01 PM Link | Quote
It seems like Safari 4.0.4 (OS X) animates things, apparently.

Looks fine in Firefox (Windows / Linux) and Camino, though.

Apparently at the time of posting, it seems to be using Helvetica in your profile.

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Posted on 02-21-10 07:27:19 PM Link | Quote
Very nice layout. I like the gradient-thingy in the background of your post too. The link decorations are just epic. Great work, and it's easy to read in my opinion.

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Posted on 02-21-10 07:57:01 PM Link | Quote

Works beautifully here. The animations are a nice touch.

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Posted on 02-21-10 11:27:35 PM Link | Quote
Ok, bumping it up to 14 solved the problem for me.

As for the bold, looking back, i guess it was just the links that stuck out to me. This is probably just due to the eye candy you added not being rendered properly in my browser or something, and is no big deal. The text is fine now.

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Funny, mine is like a ghetto old-school trick thing as opposed to RGBA.

In any case, it looks fine in my browser, but my Firefox 3.6 just doesn't show the animations, unfortunately.

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line 272 column 1559 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 299 column 1273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 299 column 1273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 320 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 329 column 968 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 329 column 968 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 329 column 1061 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 359 column 1628 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 378 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 389 column 1525 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 389 column 1525 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 389 column 1621 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 398 column 56 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 408 column 416 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 408 column 416 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 408 column 622 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 408 column 776 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 416 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 436 column 2903 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 444 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 445 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 455 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 462 column 419 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 462 column 584 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 462 column 584 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 468 column 1117 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 477 column 16 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 477 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 477 column 59 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 477 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 477 column 102 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 477 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 477 column 145 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 477 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 489 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 496 column 668 - Warning: <table> attribute "height" has invalid value "300px"
line 496 column 668 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "000000" and has been replaced
line 496 column 745 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 503 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 504 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 504 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 522 column 1844 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 522 column 1844 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 530 column 2797 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 536 column 43 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 536 column 43 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 536 column 86 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 536 column 86 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 536 column 129 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 536 column 129 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 536 column 172 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 536 column 172 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 536 column 215 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 536 column 215 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 536 column 258 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 536 column 258 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 536 column 301 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 536 column 301 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 538 column 33 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 543 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 554 column 1307 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 554 column 1307 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 628 column 16 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 628 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 628 column 59 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 628 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 628 column 102 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 628 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 628 column 145 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 628 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 629 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 629 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 629 column 111 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 629 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 630 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 640 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 647 column 668 - Warning: <table> attribute "height" has invalid value "300px"
line 647 column 668 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "000000" and has been replaced
line 647 column 745 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 17 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 656 column 17 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 60 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 656 column 60 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 103 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 656 column 103 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 146 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 656 column 146 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 189 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 656 column 189 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 232 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 656 column 232 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 275 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 656 column 275 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 318 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 656 column 318 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 656 column 361 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 656 column 361 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 657 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 657 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 657 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 657 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 658 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 668 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 675 column 1209 - Warning: <tr> attribute "valign" has invalid value "center"
line 694 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 694 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 694 column 245 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 703 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 708 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 327 column 167 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 385 column 167 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 462 column 345 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 688 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 691 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 211 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 240 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 270 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 272 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 272 column 155 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 272 column 366 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 272 column 460 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 272 column 543 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 272 column 646 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 272 column 728 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 272 column 1018 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 272 column 1109 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 272 column 1286 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 272 column 1470 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 296 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 325 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 353 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 383 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 404 column 39 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 432 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 460 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 467 column 803 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 494 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 496 column 668 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 496 column 871 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 496 column 871 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 520 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 548 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 589 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 616 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 645 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 647 column 668 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 647 column 871 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 647 column 871 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 673 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 675 column 1135 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 412 warnings and 4 errors!

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md