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Posted on 02-13-10 06:39:00 PM Link | Quote
I mentioned earlier that when I was a kid, my parents had a rotary phone. Even then (early 1990s) most people had push-button phones and I wondered why we had the hard-to-understand rotary phone. Eventually my parents got a push-button phone in 1994 or so. Still no Q and Z though, IIRC

Other things:
- Floppy disks, both the 9 cm kind and the old 5.25" ones that flopped when you held them a certain way. And if you flip the disk over, it was a different "disk" and some games and such would have stuff on each side. One disk side only held 166 kB.
- Record albums. As in, vinyl. My parents didn't get a CD player until the mid-'90s.
- Cassette tapes, both for songs and for computer files.
- Dot-matrix printers. About as troublesome as today's inkjets, but much louder and slower and with very low print quality. I would sometimes wake up on weekend mornings to the sound of my dad printing 1 of his novels downstairs. He never got published.
- Polaroid camera. My parents had one, and I wondered why most people had to go to Kmart or wherever to get their photos developed. Now it's mostly digital cameras.

Anything else you remember from your childhood that's either totally gone now or not popular or common anymore?

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Posted on 02-13-10 06:46:39 PM Link | Quote
I have an old Sansui stereo from 1988, that still works great today. Hell, I even hooked up my Sansa Fuze to it using a 3.5mm to RCA cable. They just don't make those stereos like they used to... (this one has all the components separate: receiver, dual tape deck, 6+1 CD changer, and even a phonograph (although I don't have any vinyl records for it...))

I never had a computer that used 5¼" diskettes, since my very first computer was a Mac from 1993. However, I do remember using them in elementary school, on the old Apple IIe and IIgs... although in middle school, the computers had Windows 3.1 and 95, and didn't use 5¼" disks.

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Posted on 02-13-10 06:48:53 PM (last edited by Terra at 02-13-10 03:49 PM) Link | Quote
My family's first computer was a Commodore VIC-20 from 1983 or so, predating me by about 4 years

When I was very young, not that many people had home computers. A computer was usually something you'd use at school or the library. That did change quickly though, and a lot of people had computers even by the time I was 9 or so.

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Posted on 02-13-10 06:53:10 PM Link | Quote




#52
We didn't have a computer until 1992 (when I was 9), so I missed out on a lot of the early computer technology, but here it goes anyway:

- I've had floppies too, but only 3½" ones here ... 800k ones first, though, so I at least remember a time when 1.4MB on a floppy seemed like a lot
- My father had hundreds of vinyl discs, but we had already moved on to cassettes (and a lot of them) by the time I was a kid, so that's what I grew up with ... enough to even code programs to simulate them (and even now, I'm more used to those than CD's or MP3 players)
- I've seen those noisy dot matrix printers, but the first one we had was a Apple Style Writer II ... it was black&white and printed about 1 page per minute (or per 2 minutes at higher quality)
- We've had Polaroid cameras too, but haven't really used them much ...


And yeah, back then, a fairly "average" computer (that would be completely obsoleted within 5 years) could easily cost thousands, so it felt special just having one

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Posted on 02-13-10 07:00:07 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Milly
And yeah, back then, a fairly "average" computer (that would be completely obsoleted within 5 years) could easily cost thousands, so it felt special just having one


Not the Commodores. A C64 only cost around $600 USD when it came out and quickly dropped to $150 or so. Even adding a $200 external disk drive (the C64 didn't come with one), it was a good deal. It could hook up to a TV, so you didn't need a monitor or speakers (in fact, Commodore monitors output audio as well as video anyway so you never needed a set of speakers).

Most brands were a lot more expensive though, especially Apples.

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Posted on 02-13-10 07:12:08 PM Link | Quote
I still have a box full of floppies in the drawer by my desk, and this desktop even has a floppy drive.

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Green monitors. I had an apple 2e that had a green monitor. I didn't know apple 2s could even output color until I was in elementary school and some of them had color monitors.

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Looong list here.

Apple ][es - The only computer my school had for students. We would fight over who would get Oregon Trail II.
Dot Matrix Printers - Oh, the many wacky things we printed with them. Their destiny was to be left outside in the rain and destroyed, eventually.
Windows 3.1/486/8 MB of memory - Used this all the way into the year 1998, even to access the internet (via 56k ISA modem.) Found in a dumpster and rebuilt by my Dad's arab co-worker. Has two hard drives.
5-inch Floppies - I have an unopened, sealed box, and an opened one. And a drive. A few of the used ones still work.
Atari Mega STE - Found on the street, it mostly works, can't get a monitor to work with it though.
Gas Stove - dates to the 1950's. Still using it.
88 Oldsmobile - This used to be our main car. It is one half of the reason I have the number 88 in my name.
Ancient 50's portable TV - Got from my great uncle. It heats up so much it melts the plastic atop it.
Rotary phone - We used one for our primary phone until it finally broke. A shame it did.
1950's and 1970's fans - Still in use. Work just fine.
Ancient GE Refrigerator - One of the first made, we use it to cool our soda in the basement.
1970's washer and drier - All we have to use for our clothes.
1960's or something art deco/fugly bizarro lamps - I use two of these to light my room. Amusingly, they are compatible with CFL bulbs.
1920's/older tiny records that spin fast - Sorry for forgetting the term, but My grandpa had a ton of these, and we've listened to them. Sort of a trip to hear them.

If anything, I still live surrounded by the appliances of ancient times, mixed in between my computers. The old stuff is still here... surrounding me.

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Posted on 02-13-10 11:04:37 PM Link | Quote
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My grandpa has about 7 large boxes of VHS tapes, then a few smaller boxes, then one of those common wooden tape racks that everyone has.

I watched a lot of movies when I was younger, so VHS tapes were really common. I still remember all kinds of things about VHS tapes, like the telephone dialing sound on some of then, the weird colored wavy lines you'd see in the beginning of many tapes during that period when you first hit play and it's all black. The old FBI warnings that you could still fast forward through normally. No stupid annoying LAGGY AS SHIT menus. I miss those days, and also think... they could've done much better with DVDs... Hell, just throw a filesystem on there and let the user pick the files they want to play. :p The menus don't need the language selection anyway since the players always had an AUDIO button anyway.

the 386sx I had up until ~1998. I don't remember it too much. It had Windows 3.1 and I was one of those people with too much time and interest in computers but lack of resources (no real internet connection, yet) and tended to screw up the windows installation by messing around with system files. I'd always also choose the most bizarre, random color schemes for no reason.

Oh, I guess I could count DOS because even back then it was beneficial to use the command line. I had a 233Mhz pentium 2 with windows 95 and explorer often took it's dear old time to display a file list, so using the DOS prompt was much faster, and I was usually aiming to load DOS programs anyway. I learned how to use basic DOS pretty early on. I had this old DOS manual that I read pretty extensively. I'd try to make stupid games in DOS batch files but never really got far. I mostly made ascii art animations and stuff that required you to press enter for each frame.

I had a lot of fun with QBASIC, but this was a bit later on. I think I started poking around with it when I was probably 11 but usually just made silly little input/print/if/for/etc programs with nothing too useful or functional... I remember the first decent program I made when I was probably 12 was a screensaver in the style of the matrix monitor screens in qbasic. It was really primitive and didn't work terribly well, and obviously badly written. Kinda pathetic that I was only working on simple shit like that when I was 12. I never made anything terribly great in it. When I was 14 or 15 I made a small game where you walked around in a house with a few rooms all on 1 screen and you could interact with a few things. It wasn't coded very well, but there's not exactly a whole lot you could do with qbasic, either.

I was doing a lot more things in Megazeux, anyway. Not a whole lot more, as far as technical stuff goes. Probably the most impressive thing I made was a basic raycaster when I was maybe 14, based upon my own experimentation. It sucked, though. It wasn't very fast, it didn't have textures, it didn't have sprites (including enemies and whatnot), and it had the fisheye distortion. This was also after a few people had already written a few, better ones, anyway. I'm kinda surprised that I did that, but it's really not very indicative of my abilities.

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Posted on 02-14-10 12:24:12 AM Link | Quote
when we were toddlers, me and my brother were big into TMNT. Well, I leaned toward The Real Ghostbusters and anything on the NES myself, but we both dabbled in TMNT.

When we were actually KIDS in the 90's, our interests separated. I was still younger, so I took off with that drama on Fox about the five teenagers living in California (that may or may not have battled rubber sharkmen costumes destroying model cities), while he watched the X-men animated series. Alright we both watched the drama about five teenagers with attitude. But he was more into the toys. But he made up for it with Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter. What did I make up for it with? ha ha ha... gaming... is... good enough? :<

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Posted on 02-14-10 02:37:52 AM Link | Quote
I remember having 5.25" floppies back when I was just a little kid, definitely before 1997 when we got a new computer that ran Windows 95. I remember being fucking AMAZED with the mouse. We still have that mouse.

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Posted on 02-14-10 02:50:12 AM Link | Quote
Positive I still have some 5.25" floppies lying around somewhere... they'd all be full of shareware games but who cares? They're really floppy floppies.

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Posted on 02-14-10 03:00:28 AM Link | Quote

Lain's post №620

I never had floppy floppies, but I did have the smaller floppies.

A lot.

I betcha $50 that at least 1/5th have MIDI's or images on them.

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Posted on 02-14-10 03:04:20 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gabu
I remember being fucking AMAZED with the mouse. We still have that mouse.


I struggled with the mouse at first, and I would hold it oddly with most of my fingers curled and just my index finger extended (Windows 3.1 didn't have much use for the right mouse button). Later though, I liked being able to run games without having to memorize their commands.

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Posted on 02-15-10 02:27:51 AM Link | Quote
I used to buy a ton of 3.5" floppies... still have a floppy drive on this computer although I've rarely (if ever) used it.

I copied a lot of floppies.

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Posted on 02-15-10 02:56:29 AM Link | Quote
I used to use floppies to bring files to school to print or work on or whatever. Later, I'd just E-mail myself the files instead.

My first USB drive only held 64 MB and I don't remember ever having seriously used it. My 2 GB drive I often use to transfer files these days

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We were carrying floppies to school with us as late as 2001.

Our teachers told us to keep them in a safe place and to not drop them on the floor of the subway since they could become corrupted. I have no idea if our electrical subway system could even do such a thing.

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#52
On my old Macintosh, I probably had more stuff on floppies than on the hard disk, but that's not too hard since it only held about 50 floppies worth of data (75MB)

Then in the year before I got dialup, I downloaded emulators and ROMs on the school computers and brought them home with floppies ... I remember splitting 4MB SNES ROMs into 3 floppies, that was fun (that and it took a hour to download) I think I copied almost 100MB that way, even ...


Of course now, I don't use floppies anymore (but I still don't have a USB drive either)

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line 660 column 1100 - Warning: missing </div>
line 660 column 1081 - Warning: missing </div>
line 666 column 15 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 667 column 25 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 669 column 33 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 677 column 25 - Warning: plain text isn't allowed in <tr> elements
line 667 column 25 - Info: <tr> previously mentioned
line 679 column 33 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 680 column 121 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 680 column 47 - Warning: missing </nobr> before </table>
line 682 column 99 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 682 column 25 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 682 column 1208 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 684 column 1853 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 685 column 17 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 686 column 25 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 687 column 33 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 686 column 25 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 699 column 33 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 700 column 121 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 702 column 99 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 702 column 25 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
line 702 column 1061 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&m"
line 702 column 1068 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&e"
line 702 column 1188 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&e"
line 712 column 17 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 712 column 17 - Warning: discarding unexpected <table>
line 715 column 35 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 715 column 96 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
line 715 column 128 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&page"
line 715 column 50 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 715 column 163 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
line 717 column 35 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 717 column 50 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 718 column 37 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&id"
line 717 column 223 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
line 719 column 17 - Warning: discarding unexpected </textarea>
line 719 column 28 - Warning: discarding unexpected </form>
line 719 column 35 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
line 719 column 43 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noembed>
line 719 column 53 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noscript>
line 719 column 64 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noembed>
line 719 column 74 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
line 719 column 82 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
line 719 column 90 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
line 721 column 9 - Warning: missing </font> before <table>
line 733 column 25 - Warning: discarding unexpected </font>
line 742 column 57 - Warning: discarding unexpected </font>
line 720 column 1 - Warning: missing </center>
line 120 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 125 column 19 - Warning: <td> attribute "width" has invalid value "120px"
line 125 column 93 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 141 column 19 - Warning: <td> attribute "width" has invalid value "120px"
line 141 column 98 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 148 column 43 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 148 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 148 column 243 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 161 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 161 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 161 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 161 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 162 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 172 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 179 column 827 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 179 column 827 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 188 column 2010 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 195 column 16 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 195 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 195 column 59 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 195 column 59 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 195 column 102 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 195 column 102 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 195 column 145 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 195 column 145 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 195 column 188 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 195 column 188 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 195 column 231 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 195 column 231 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 195 column 274 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 195 column 274 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 195 column 317 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 195 column 317 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 195 column 360 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 195 column 360 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 196 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 196 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 196 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 196 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 207 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 224 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 224 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 224 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 224 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 225 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 235 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 242 column 637 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 242 column 637 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 244 column 1086 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 253 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 255 column 45 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 263 column 1010 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 263 column 1116 - Warning: <center> anchor "acj1k3" already defined
line 263 column 1134 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 265 column 1206 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 268 column 1629 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 268 column 1629 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 269 column 1944 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 269 column 1944 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 274 column 2508 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 274 column 2508 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 281 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 281 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 281 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 281 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 282 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 292 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 299 column 779 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 299 column 779 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 303 column 1463 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 310 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 310 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 310 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 310 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 310 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 310 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 310 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 310 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 310 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 310 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 311 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 311 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 322 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 337 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 337 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 337 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 337 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 338 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 348 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 357 column 1472 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 357 column 1472 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 359 column 1546 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 359 column 1546 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 366 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 367 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 367 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 367 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 367 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 368 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 378 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 17 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 17 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 60 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 60 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 103 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 103 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 146 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 146 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 189 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 189 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 232 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 232 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 275 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 275 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 318 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 318 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 392 column 361 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 392 column 361 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 393 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 436 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 520 column 555 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 520 column 555 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 520 column 688 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 521 column 807 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 532 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 539 column 1516 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 539 column 1516 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 547 column 56 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 559 column 459 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 559 column 459 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 559 column 665 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 559 column 819 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 559 column 949 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 567 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 567 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 567 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 568 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 578 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 585 column 687 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 585 column 687 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 587 column 1205 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 598 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 607 column 1520 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 607 column 1520 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 614 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 614 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 614 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 614 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 615 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 625 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 634 column 819 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 634 column 819 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 634 column 1030 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 642 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 642 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 642 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 642 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 643 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 653 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 660 column 1081 - Warning: <div> anchor "shadic1-bg" already defined
line 660 column 1100 - Warning: <div> anchor "shadic1-sky" already defined
line 660 column 1120 - Warning: <div> anchor "shadic1-logo" already defined
line 660 column 1141 - Warning: <div> anchor "shadic1-ground" already defined
line 660 column 1164 - Warning: <div> anchor "shadic1-jd" already defined
line 661 column 1276 - Warning: <div> anchor "shadic1-box" already defined
line 661 column 1512 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 661 column 1512 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 664 column 1745 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 664 column 1745 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 675 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 682 column 1422 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 682 column 1422 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 692 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 694 column 45 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 702 column 980 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k1" already defined
line 702 column 995 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k3" already defined
line 702 column 1010 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 702 column 1116 - Warning: <center> anchor "acj1k3" already defined
line 702 column 1134 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 704 column 1206 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 705 column 1257 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k2a" already defined
line 705 column 1273 - Warning: <div> anchor "acj1k2" already defined
line 705 column 1452 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 705 column 1452 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 707 column 1714 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 707 column 1714 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 710 column 1907 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 710 column 1907 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 718 column 43 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 718 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 718 column 243 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 727 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 732 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 359 column 1628 - Warning: trimming empty <p>
line 520 column 291 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 539 column 1634 - Warning: trimming empty <center>
line 607 column 1637 - Warning: trimming empty <center>
line 664 column 1829 - Warning: trimming empty <p>
line 684 column 1755 - Warning: trimming empty <center>
line 712 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 212 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 240 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 242 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 261 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 297 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 299 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 327 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 353 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 355 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 356 column 1187 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 383 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 409 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 411 column 1596 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 411 column 1896 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 411 column 2149 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 428 column 4268 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 452 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 488 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 518 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 520 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 537 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 539 column 1139 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 539 column 1258 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 539 column 1688 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 553 column 39 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 583 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 585 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 603 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 605 column 1139 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 605 column 1258 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 607 column 1691 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 630 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 632 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 658 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 660 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 661 column 1187 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 680 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 682 column 1139 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 682 column 1258 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 684 column 1809 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 700 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 467 warnings and 4 errors!

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md