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Posted on 08-11-07 02:45:50 AM; last edit by HyperHacker on 08-11-07 02:46 AM Link | Quote
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Yeah, Wet-Dry World is split into two areas, that load as you're going through the tunnel.

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Posted on 08-11-07 03:33:45 AM Link | Quote
Hi I have made a new discovery about the water polygons I found out how to make the water invisiable( well part of it outside the castle grounds

First get a hex editor

second enter this hex data into this address

0xFD8EFF: [00 01] 00 00 00 [14] 00 [0F] [E4 27] [E3 CA] [E4 27] [FF C6] [20 3D] [FF C6] [20 3D] [E3 CA] 00 [01]

change it into

0xFD8EFF: [00 00] 00 00 00 [00] 00 [00] [00 00] [00 00] [00 00] [00 00] [00 00] [00 00] [00 00] [00 00] 00 [00]

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Posted on 08-11-07 05:27:03 AM Link | Quote
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Well you set all the coordinates to 0,0,0 so of course it won't show up.

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Got it!
Bingo!
Eureka!

It was an easy find, I just didn't look for it that much before...

Command 0x44 is the one that loads the "swimming boxes", and its found after the 0x43 objects (which itself is just after the solidity data), and are just before what I call the 0x42 objects.


0xFD8DA9: [00 44] [00 02]

[0,1]: 0044= Command that loads one or more "swimming boxes".
[2,3]: Number of swimming boxes

The first swimming box that's loaded is for water around the castle.


0xFD8DAD: [00 00] [E4 27] [E3 CA] [20 3D] [FF C6] [FF AF]

[0,1]: The ID of the water polygon commands that goes with this swimming box
[2,3],[4,5],[6,7],[8,9],[10,11]: Coordinates the box sides? (16-bit signed integer)

The second swimming box is for the lake.


0xFD8DB9: [00 01] [04 00] [FF C6] [20 26] [1F C9] [FF AF]


And yes you can (obviously) disable the swimming by setting all coordinates to [00 00]

BTW jgame56: Welcome to the forum

The swimming boxes for Tall Tall mountain are found at 0x118A023:


00 44 00 04
00 00 F8 01 0A CD 07 9A 13 CD EE CE
00 02 09 36 0B 21 0E D0 0D 92 F1 01
00 01 07 B4 0D 99 0E 39 11 99 F0 01
00 03 06 32 03 82 0D FF 0A BF F9 9B


There are four of them in TTM.

If anyone wants to try to find which coordinates controls what, it could be a nice contribution to the project

I suspect that the water height in Castle Ground may still be overridden by the game, so it may be better to experiment with TTM.




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Posted on 08-11-07 11:13:03 PM Link | Quote
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For coordinates, I'd guess something like X,Y,Z of one of the top corners and X,Z of the corresponding bottom, with the Y being minus infinity or something, since you can never get below the box. They could also specify points of the polygon to take coords from, but it doesn't look like they do.

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Posted on 08-11-07 11:41:34 PM; last edit by ksonic1055 on 08-12-07 02:38 AM Link | Quote
VL-Tone- So you're saying that this:

00 44 00 04 <---Indicates that more than one "Swimming box" exists within this specific level, and that there is a quantity of 4 specified within this level?

And then the following hex is of the four boxes in the case?

Also, within the setup of an individual box, you said that [0,1] indicates the ID of the water polygon. Does this mean how is appears, or how it behaves?

I know I'm a noob. Don't bite me.

I'll mess around with coordinates.




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Posted on 08-12-07 01:46:52 AM Link | Quote
Thank you for welcoming me to the fourms Vl-Tone

Maybe when we have all the water polygons found maybe you can add it to toads tool

i heard on vista the toads tool will work faster with an adobe update in december 2007

I have also just found out the addresses for the water fall outside the castle well part of them

FD8FCF: 00 09 E3 DF 04 3B EC 31 00 02 00 09 E2 66 07 FA E9 7A 00 04 00 09 E0 3C 0B 91 E5 97 00 06 00 09 BF 00 00 00 00 00 0A 32 BF

Change This Code To All Zeros And Part Of The Water Fall Should Be Toutching The Castle In Castle Gorunds Course

Any Thing Else That You Guys Know About Put On The Fourms So We Can Get Far On This Project

Thanks People

I'll Let You Know More When I Find Something

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Posted on 08-12-07 11:22:00 AM Link | Quote
jgame56, you're saying that specific line determines how the waterfall appears? I replaced that line to all zeros and it looks like the waterfall is stretched...

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Posted on 08-12-07 09:30:07 PM; last edit by ksonic1055 on 08-14-07 03:45 AM Link | Quote
VL-Tone, When you state, for instance, [00 01], is this meant as each byte defines something different, or in pairs?

*EDIT- OK i've assumed they are in pairs, and i seem to be correct. So far, here are VL-Tone's discovered, which i have added to, concerning a normal "Swimming Box" such as this (These could be incorrect, if you notice errors, let me know):

[00 00] [F8 01] [0A CD] [07 9A] [13 CD] [EE CE]

[0,1] - The ID of the water polygon commands that goes with this swimming box
[2,3] - Possibly the position along the x axis???
[4,5] - Unknown
[6,7] - width of the swimming box on the x axis.
[8,9] - width of the swimming box on the z axis, or its position on the z axis
[10,11] - The height of the swimming box on the Y axis, stretching from the bottom of the body of water, to this entered value i assume.

Use this image to get perspective on what i am describing.


Axis

Ill continue to add to this post.
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Yes You Are Right Crash Dance

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Posted on 08-13-07 02:18:16 AM Link | Quote
I hate to throw in another variable, but think about hazy mazy cave maze with the hazy ...haze. It works just like water, the way it sucks your hp like water, yet you (obviously) can't swim in it. And the hazy...haze has a different texture on the top. There needs to be a value that does that.
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There's also a Gameshark code that swaps their behaviour: You walk under water and swim in the poison gas. So yeah, the gas probably is water, just using a different texture and not invoking the swimming action.

Originally posted by ksonic1055
[10,11] - The hight of the swimming box on the Y axis. It seems that if [FF FF], the hight is infinite.
Odd. If you put another object's Y position at FFFF, where does it show up? Unless the game is explicitly checking for this case, FFFF should just be -1, which would be near the center of the level. (Unless the level model is just way below center, so the center point is way up in the air. )

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Odd. If you put another object's Y position at FFFF, where does it show up? Unless the game is explicitly checking for this case, FFFF should just be -1, which would be near the center of the level. (Unless the level model is just way below center, so the center point is way up in the air. )


Not Y position, the Y height. Stretched up, not moved. If the height is set to FFFF, It's not infinite after all. I some how got it to be unintentionally, however, infinite, but i can not reproduce this... I will edit my previous post.

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ksonic1055:

Thanks for the help and welcome to the forum I'll be looking to implement the water objects in the next version when I know exactly what these values are for.

Could you just please edit your post and put a smaller image, ideally in .jpg format? PNG is good for smaller images, or pictures with less color shades in them. This one is 1.1MB and may load very slowly for 56k users.

jgame56:

You're simply corrupting the waterfall polygons, which I already knew about. Thanks anyway for the contribution!

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Posted on 08-14-07 02:25:35 AM Link | Quote
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Originally posted by VL-Tone
Could you just please edit your post and put a smaller image, ideally in .jpg format? PNG is good for smaller images, or pictures with less color shades in them. This one is 1.1MB and may load very slowly for 56k users.

I went ahead and updated it to a 44KB image and removed the forced-sizing.

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Posted on 08-14-07 02:31:05 AM Link | Quote
VL-Tone:

Thanks. I am still adding to my previous post, trying to figure the exact functions of each value. Hope my findings can help.

XKeeper: Thank you for updating the image to an appropriate format.
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XKeeper: Thank you for updating the image to an appropriate format.

Uhh... See, I edited your post and replaced the image with another version, but you edited it back in... Try not to do that

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Xkeeper:

Im sorry. I was editing it while you had updated it, and before i read the posts after it, I had already updated it. It was completely unintentional and it will not happen again.

It is now fixed, so there should be no more confusion.

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Ah, alright. Carry on, then :p

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Hmm i never really thought about editing water, anyway nice job im sorry to hear what happened at your office, i haven't really been online in a while

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line 180 column 3880 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 243 column 2664 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 243 column 3918 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 293 column 2623 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 305 column 3093 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 337 column 4083 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 416 column 766 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 433 column 354 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "888888" and has been replaced
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line 557 column 3301 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 557 column 3301 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 791 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 791 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 818 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 818 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 818 column 244 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 827 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 832 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 812 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 204 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 240 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 267 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 269 column 157 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 269 column 222 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 269 column 318 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 269 column 408 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 269 column 488 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 269 column 1443 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 334 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 361 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 402 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 431 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 456 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 500 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 526 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 552 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 581 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 613 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 615 column 157 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 615 column 222 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 615 column 318 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 615 column 408 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 615 column 488 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 615 column 1443 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 647 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 680 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 710 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 743 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 775 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 807 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 346 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md