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Posted on 10-29-09 05:42:40 PM (last edited by Lunamon at 10-29-09 02:43 PM) Link | Quote

So... do you like this or prefer the old one better?

(I made this and the old one is a shameless rip-off. )






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Posted on 10-29-09 05:51:51 PM Link | Quote
Hmm... I tend to like the old one better. It was less busy.

But this one is cool too. Good job

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Posted on 10-29-09 07:23:36 PM Link | Quote








This one's pretty sweet, but I'd like it more if it was darker.

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Posted on 10-29-09 08:21:58 PM (last edited by TheKinoko at 10-29-09 05:23 PM) Link | Quote
Same feeling. This background is too much distracting, making it harder to read your post.

The old one was less distracting, more plain. That's why I tend to prefer that one.

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Posted on 10-29-09 08:36:51 PM (last edited by Tarale at 10-29-09 05:37 PM) Link | Quote
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There isn't enough contrast between your background colour and your text colour. Consider something like #9D94FF for text instead.

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Posted on 10-29-09 08:48:37 PM (last edited by TheKinoko at 10-29-09 05:49 PM) Link | Quote
Right. Just tested the original colors with that CCA tester Tarale gave me: fail.

#9D94ff does pass.

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Posted on 10-29-09 08:51:37 PM Link | Quote
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Right. Just tested the original colors with that CCA tester Tarale gave me: fail.

#9D94ff does pass.


My Windows computer exploderated (overheated) yesterday, what value did it get as a pass? When I use the CCA and a program on my Mac together (Colour Schemer Studio) I aim to make it pass at on or only a fraction over 5.00 so it's not too disruptive to the colour scheme intended by the designer.

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:28:48 PM Link | Quote

Trying something new again... comments? :<

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:31:33 PM Link | Quote
This background is a bit too distractive. Apart from that it's nice!

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:32:47 PM Link | Quote
Again, not enough contrast between the text and background, especially compared to the tiling pattern around it ... but light blue should be good

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:36:47 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, that contrast is a bit "vibey"; not enough of a difference in luminosity. It can actually hurt some people's eyes (like mine).

Give this tool a go to find something a little more suited with regards to luminosity. It is your friend and it is awesome, and it will ensure you always make a layout or website that is readable for everyone:

Colour Contrast Analyser

It's an excellent tool, and it is designed with accessibility standards in mind. It's actually required-use in any web development project where readability and accessibility is needed—and given you want us to read your posts (I assume), you're best to give it a go

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:39:21 PM Link | Quote
Yeah. The background tends to hurt eyes.

The post text color is definitely too dark to stand against such a background.

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:43:57 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lunamon
So... do you like this or prefer the old one better?

(I made this and the old one is a shameless rip-off. )



I see we have the Joystiq effect going on here, so thanks for that.

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:44:55 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by TheKinoko
Yeah. The background tends to hurt eyes.

The post text color is definitely too dark to stand against such a background.


But the text is on a black BG, how can that be hard to read?


Also, is this BG better?
I made it a bit darker...


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Posted on 11-01-09 10:46:24 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gwendolyn
Originally posted by TheKinoko
Yeah. The background tends to hurt eyes.

The post text color is definitely too dark to stand against such a background.


But the text is on a black BG, how can that be hard to read?


Also, is this BG better?
I made it a bit darker...


It's more that the blue text needs to be lighter. It doesn't have enough contrast with the black, so it causes this "vibey" sensation with the eyes where they can't quite focus on the text properly.

Check it out with that Colour Contrast Analyser.

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:47:26 PM Link | Quote
I don't see much difference on the BG.

But, actually, it's allright when the black box covers all the height. But when there are gaps, the background tends to distract the eyes and make reading the post harder...

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:49:02 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by TheKinoko
I don't see much difference on the BG.

But, actually, it's allright when the black box covers all the height. But when there are gaps, the background tends to distract the eyes and make reading the post harder...


I will have to try and make longer posts then! ;

Tarale: I made it brighter, is this good?


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Posted on 11-01-09 10:50:19 PM Link | Quote
I'm on my Mac (my Windows computer blew up last week) so I can't use the Colour Contrast Analyser until I get an appropriate VM set up again, but using a different analysis tool, try #7A99FF against black.

That should pass. Colour Schemer Studio doesn't give me the luminosity pass ratios, but it still tells me if something passes or doesn't

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:50:51 PM Link | Quote
Will help you making non-empty posts

So yeah, now try making a short post so we see better how it stands against the background?

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Posted on 11-01-09 10:52:45 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Gwendolyn
Originally posted by TheKinoko
I don't see much difference on the BG.

But, actually, it's allright when the black box covers all the height. But when there are gaps, the background tends to distract the eyes and make reading the post harder...


I will have to try and make longer posts then! ;

Tarale: I made it brighter, is this good?

It's better, but not enough. Ran it through Colour Schemer Studio on the Mac and it doesn't pass the luminosity contrast.

It will take me a few hours to install Windows on a VM to get exact values, so it might be quicker for you to try Colour Contrast Analyser yourself in the meantime.

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line 389 column 1306 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 423 column 2136 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 438 column 403 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
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line 535 column 1731 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 559 column 496 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
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line 588 column 765 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 621 column 1730 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 627 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 634 column 157 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 634 column 157 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 636 column 464 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 636 column 547 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
line 636 column 630 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" lacks value
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line 665 column 1810 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 680 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 680 column 245 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 689 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 694 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 468 column 991 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 494 column 367 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 544 column 2206 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 584 column 367 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 621 column 1855 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 671 column 2323 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 674 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 201 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 228 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 254 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 282 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 295 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 323 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 353 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 356 column 78 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 356 column 78 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 369 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 387 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 389 column 933 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 415 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 434 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 461 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 492 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 494 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 494 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 529 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 555 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 582 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 584 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 584 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 617 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 632 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 659 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 366 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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