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Posted on 09-05-09 07:38:37 PM Link | Quote
Grading homework? Don't they do that in elementary school?

That's quite odd.

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Posted on 09-05-09 07:40:43 PM Link | Quote
Some of my teacehrs in high school still graded homework.

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Posted on 09-05-09 07:42:30 PM (last edited by Terra at 09-05-09 04:42 PM) Link | Quote

Most of mine in high school at least looked at homework, but sometimes they just made sure you did it and didn't care about the answers. Most of my teachers in college don't even collect homework, which is fine with me (well, except this semester!)

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Posted on 09-05-09 07:44:41 PM Link | Quote
Yeah, this is what I usually expect. My teachers also looked for the homework in high school but didn't care at all about what you actually wrote there, as long as it made some sense you could write anything on there. Now, the teachers give homework but don't care if you actually do it

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Posted on 09-05-09 08:22:49 PM Link | Quote
Most of my classes at university had graded homework too (counting for 20-40% total), sometimes even weekly, but it wasn't exactly like the repetitive exercises from high school and before ...

And for the few that didn't, the exams (midterm and final) counted for about half of the grade each, so that wasn't always better

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Posted on 09-05-09 08:32:08 PM (last edited by Terra at 09-05-09 05:32 PM) Link | Quote

I took a semester of classes in Germany, and over there the final exam is most of the grade. However, if you fail it, you only have to retake the exam itself and not the whole class. (I don't know if this is true of all German schools though.)

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Posted on 09-05-09 08:55:46 PM Link | Quote
The best is when teachers assign a mark (say, 5 or 10%) for attendance. Or "class participation".

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Posted on 09-05-09 08:58:10 PM (last edited by Terra at 09-05-09 05:58 PM) Link | Quote

The humanities department at my school is obsessed with that. Sometimes it's even like 30% attendance and participation, and they often automatically fail people who don't show up enough even if they get perfect grades on all papers and tests.

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Posted on 09-05-09 08:59:08 PM (last edited by IIMarckus at 09-05-09 06:00 PM) Link | Quote
I guess I just have cool teachers then. B] Really, I would hate having to actually turn stuff in. This is college, we’re all adults, and if we can’t understand the subject then we’ll either do enough work to learn the subject of our own volition or be weeded out.

I have one class this semester with grading for participation. It’s in a 160‐student lecture hall. How does that work?

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Posted on 09-06-09 12:09:36 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by IIMarckus
I guess I just have cool teachers then. B] Really, I would hate having to actually turn stuff in. This is college, we’re all adults, and if we can’t understand the subject then we’ll either do enough work to learn the subject of our own volition or be weeded out.

I have one class this semester with grading for participation. It’s in a 160‐student lecture hall. How does that work?


It doesn't. Now, I have classes with about 30 people total or less, so we often have attendance taken. Unfortunately, it's hilariously dumb when you have an assignment in class that counts as attendance for the day. I had it totally completed, then left before realizing my error when my teacher was likely long gone from the school.

But I find that it's pretty easy to get behind in school work in college. I can really do my homework when I want to in time for the next class, so it's not like I have to worry about "ZOMG I HAVE 6 HOURS OF HOMEWORK I HAVE TO GET DONE BY TOMORROW!!!!1", but it's way easier to forget some of them since there's more time to decide when to do it. It a good deal to not have to do it all in one night, though.

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Posted on 09-06-09 12:57:50 AM Link | Quote
Haha, non-graded homework. I wish.

About 95% of the homework we got in high school was

a) for a grade
b) highly repetitive
c) incredibly boring
d) ridiculously ambiguous

Have fun completing every even question on the page. Oh, by the way, there are 50 of them.

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Posted on 09-06-09 12:58:23 AM Link | Quote
DON'T FORGET TO SHOW YOUR WORK TOO OR IT'S WRONG

EVEN IF IT'S FINDING OUT THE HYPOTENUSE OF A RIGHT TRIANGLE WITH SIDES 4 AND 3 UNITS LONG

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Posted on 09-06-09 01:01:51 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Revya
EVEN IF IT'S FINDING OUT THE HYPOTENUSE OF A RIGHT TRIANGLE WITH SIDES 4 AND 3 UNITS LONG


That's a WRONG triangle. *rimshot*

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Posted on 09-06-09 01:01:56 AM (last edited by GabuChickenleg at 09-05-09 10:05 PM) Link | Quote
Ugh, that was the worst.

He means this.

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Posted on 09-06-09 01:02:48 AM Link | Quote
The exact reasons why I hate school/homework .







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Posted on 09-06-09 01:10:27 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by GabuChickenleg
Ugh, that was the worst.

He means this.

More or less. That works for any multiple thereof, too (3-4-5, 6-8-10, etc).

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Posted on 09-06-09 01:14:29 AM Link | Quote
Of course, once you're done with your formal education, it's absolutely necessary to do a lot of the things in what may be your career that your teachers expected you to do for your homework; this would be one reason why school is really preparation for one's potential future.

If you're going to revamp homework to get rid of these problems, you should probably revamp society first.
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Of course, once you're done with your formal education, it's absolutely necessary to do a lot of the things in what may be your career that your teachers expected you to do for your homework; this would be one reason why school is really preparation for one's potential future.

If you're going to revamp homework to get rid of these problems, you should probably revamp society first.

There's a difference between teaching and then using a few homework problems to ensure you understand the concept and not teaching and relying on homework to ruin the rest of your night.

In my experience, most teachers do the latter.

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Posted on 09-06-09 01:29:14 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Revya
DON'T FORGET TO SHOW YOUR WORK TOO OR IT'S WRONG


I hated this. It made it harder for me to cheat.

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Posted on 09-06-09 01:36:07 AM (last edited by Terra at 09-05-09 10:36 PM) Link | Quote

I hated it for a while too because I could often work things out in my head just fine. Mostly in arithmetic classes (we couldn't start algebra until 7th grade). Like, if the problem was "If you divide $100 among 8 people, how much should each person get?" and you write $12.50, it would be wrong. You'd have to show every step of the long division. In algebra and later, I couldn't do the problems in my head as well so writing down the steps actually helped.

Another thing I hated was, you must have units or it's all wrong, regardless of how obvious the units were. Like, for "What is 2 m plus 5 ft?" I can understand, but for "What is 2 kittens plus 5 kittens?" any moron would be able to tell that the unit is kittens. You shouldn't lose all credit for writing just 7.

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line 251 column 548 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 301 column 539 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff99ff" and has been replaced
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line 319 column 1460 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 319 column 1460 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 344 column 74 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "330033" and has been replaced
line 345 column 212 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffccff" and has been replaced
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line 475 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 475 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 475 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 475 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 475 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 644 column 1581 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 661 column 257 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "cc99ff" and has been replaced
line 661 column 257 - Warning: <table> attribute "bordercolor" had invalid value "9966cc" and has been replaced
line 663 column 593 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 663 column 593 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 671 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 671 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 689 column 74 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "330033" and has been replaced
line 690 column 212 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffccff" and has been replaced
line 692 column 1075 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff99ff" and has been replaced
line 701 column 43 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 701 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 701 column 241 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 710 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 715 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 319 column 1578 - Warning: trimming empty <center>
line 556 column 764 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 661 column 359 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 695 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 196 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 198 column 99 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 198 column 257 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolor"
line 198 column 257 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolordark"
line 222 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 249 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 251 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 268 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 270 column 934 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 298 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 317 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 319 column 1139 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 319 column 1258 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 319 column 1632 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 342 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 369 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 397 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 429 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 464 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 492 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 520 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 548 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 550 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 580 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 609 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 637 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 659 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 661 column 99 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 661 column 257 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolor"
line 661 column 257 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolordark"
line 687 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 438 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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