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Liliana
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Posted on 08-19-09 12:38:47 PM Link | Quote
Really, there seems to be lots of hidden stuff, including:

* sigsize.php
* the wiki
* the hidden disclaimer

but there's probably lots of stuff I missed. Anything more to be discovered?

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Posted on 08-19-09 01:41:36 PM Link | Quote
I thought the wiki was dead. There's another one? For Jul?

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Posted on 08-19-09 02:39:33 PM Link | Quote
the wiki

You can't do anything with it (yet), but I'm sure it will be revealed to the public someday.

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Posted on 08-19-09 07:38:57 PM Link | Quote
fortyfive-antelope (the hidden disclaimer you mentioned)
Photo album (dead)
activity.php (but you have it in your bio, so it's not that hidden)
Xkeeper's Goggles

There's a page that lists all mood avatars (when it doesn't crash your browser), but I don't remember where it is.

There are also several secret forums, but aside from here you need an elevated powerlevel to see or post in them.

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Posted on 08-19-09 07:41:39 PM (last edited by Prince Kassad at 08-19-09 05:02 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Joe
There are also several secret forums, but aside from here you need an elevated powerlevel to see or post in them.

At least you can know what they're called by going through all the forum IDs. Even if you can't read them, it will tell you what the forum is called.

EDIT: There's also memberlinks.php. Almost forgot about that one.

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Posted on 08-19-09 09:38:29 PM Link | Quote
Now with 60% more chance of spontaneous combustion.
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Originally posted by Joe
There are also several secret forums, but aside from here you need an elevated powerlevel to see or post in them.

http://jul.rustedlogic.net/forum.php?id=-0

Though this is more of an error or something rather than a secret forum. It's different becouse the announcements are considered forum announcements there.

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Posted on 08-19-09 09:43:45 PM Link | Quote
While we're at it, if you go to year 1 in the calender, it shows a year zero at the navigation bar at the bottom. If you try to go to year zero, however, you end up in the current year.

But if you change the URL to go to year LOL, it says year zero at the bottom.

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Posted on 08-26-09 10:45:22 PM (last edited by Bob-omb8194 at 08-26-09 07:50 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Prince Kassad
While we're at it, if you go to year 1 in the calender, it shows a year zero at the navigation bar at the bottom. If you try to go to year zero, however, you end up in the current year.

But if you change the URL to go to year LOL, it says year zero at the bottom.


The odd thing about this is the age it says you will be. Instead of an age, it shows the year you were born. If you go into the negative years (B.C.), for example, -1, it shows the year after your birth year, and so on.

Also, other non-existing forums are empty. It says you can make threads, but it probably won't work. (Never tried, and never going to.) Putting a leter in the forum ID displays an error message.

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Posted on 08-27-09 05:19:39 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Bob-omb8194
Also, other non-existing forums are empty. It says you can make threads, but it probably won't work. (Never tried, and never going to.)

Fun fact: if you try that, you get an error "The username or password is incorrect."

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Posted on 08-28-09 12:47:29 AM (last edited by Bob-omb8194 at 08-28-09 05:11 PM) Link | Quote
There is a page that I have seen that has all of the images in it. I just looked at the adress for one of the smilies. I'm pretty sure that there isn't alot of interesting stuff in there, with the exeption of possible unused images.

I haven't really looked at it, but I bet it would be interesting to look.

For an example, adress for is http://jul.rustedlogic.net/images/smilies/smile.gif
(Found by looking in the image properties.)

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Posted on 08-28-09 02:24:28 AM Link | Quote





Now, we just need all the shortcuts for the smilies.

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Posted on 08-28-09 05:31:34 AM Link | Quote
Anyone remember this?

And then there's this:

And if you look around, there's stuff like this:


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Posted on 08-28-09 06:10:00 AM Link | Quote

Originally posted by Prince Kassad
* sigsize.php

wow, it's a shame the top guy never posted

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Posted on 08-28-09 01:04:48 PM Link | Quote
Oh wow that one is filled with stuff. But at the very least, it will only kill the 56k users, and not everyone with eyes like some other layouts

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Posted on 08-28-09 08:16:15 PM (last edited by Bob-omb8194 at 08-29-09 07:30 PM) Link | Quote
There is a ton of stuff, mostly things only used during certain events, and a lot of old stuff. There even was some sort of audio file stuck in there.

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Posted on 08-31-09 02:39:43 AM Link | Quote





There's the Mega-Moron page, but it's not exactly super secret.

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Posted on 08-31-09 02:08:56 PM Link | Quote
It's more like remembering to bookmark the thing before you forget about it again.

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Posted on 08-31-09 08:10:32 PM Link | Quote
Time to be the all-knowing, I guess...

Originally posted by Prince Kassad
the wiki

You can't do anything with it (yet), but I'm sure it will be revealed to the public someday.

That was for a personal project, but I've long since given up on it (and never think about it any more); in the event that I ever do something with it, it'll probably end up being a privately-edited Cutting Room Floor-type wiki, depending on if BMF is ever up for searching for stuff. A board-oriented one was a pretty big failure before, no reason to try it now.

Originally posted by Joe
fortyfive-antelope (the hidden disclaimer you mentioned)
Photo album (dead)
activity.php (but you have it in your bio, so it's not that hidden)

The "hidden disclaimer" is actually one of these.

The Photo Album was left for dead with the rise of the much better "Jul Faces" thread. Too much work to keep the normal one maintained and it doesn't allow for multiple photos anyway.

The activity graph was never a secret, but I would imagine these two might have been for you.


Originally posted by Reimu
Originally posted by Joe
There are also several secret forums, but aside from here you need an elevated powerlevel to see or post in them.

http://jul.rustedlogic.net/forum.php?id=-0

Though this is more of an error or something rather than a secret forum. It's different becouse the announcements are considered forum announcements there.

Forum -0 is seen as "non-false" when checking if the id field exists (it evaluates to "-0", not 0). The reason announcements show up there is simple; all announcements have a forum tag, with the global ones being 0. The intval of -0 is 0, so when doing the search for forum announcements, it gets all the global ones.

Originally posted by Prince Kassad
Originally posted by Joe
There are also several secret forums, but aside from here you need an elevated powerlevel to see or post in them.

At least you can know what they're called by going through all the forum IDs. Even if you can't read them, it will tell you what the forum is called.

EDIT: There's also memberlinks.php. Almost forgot about that one.

Yeah, there's that. It's pretty obvious how long it's been since I touched it (if I ever did), note that minipics are forced to 11x11 when I changed them to 16x16 almost right away.

And yes, there are a ton of "hidden" forums. They're all powerlevel 5 (inaccessible though normal means), though, and most of them are just relics from a bygone era, though 3 of them do make up the usual Member + accessible group.

Here's another hidden page for you: Minipic list. I'm sure there are others, but letting you guys have at it and then explaining them is part of the fun.

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Posted on 09-01-09 09:16:55 PM Link | Quote
I was messing around, and found this.

It's a lot like this one, but with some options involving the date and time.

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Posted on 09-01-09 09:45:46 PM (last edited by Reimu at 09-01-09 06:48 PM) Link | Quote
Now with 60% more chance of spontaneous combustion.
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Originally posted by Bob-omb8194
I was messing around, and found this.

I remember I used to wonder what happened to that page. It's actually pretty cool and somewhat useful.
Too bad the options don't seem to work.

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line 410 column 582 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 436 column 3060 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 501 column 376 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 563 column 406 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 589 column 3060 - Warning: <img> anchor "cimg" already defined
line 589 column 3060 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 732 column 3019 - Warning: <td> anchor "lolefttd" already defined
line 732 column 3042 - Warning: <td> anchor "lomaintd" already defined
line 732 column 3060 - Warning: <img> anchor "cimg" already defined
line 732 column 3060 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 773 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 773 column 245 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 782 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 787 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 289 column 211 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 319 column 494 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 383 column 4277 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 409 column 211 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 441 column 4043 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 589 column 3629 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 734 column 3696 - Warning: trimming empty <span>
line 761 column 494 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 767 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 200 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 202 column 99 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 202 column 257 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolor"
line 202 column 257 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolordark"
line 226 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 228 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 254 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 287 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 289 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 316 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 318 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 323 column 1162 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 347 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 349 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 375 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 407 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 409 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 434 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 465 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 499 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 530 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 561 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 563 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 587 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 613 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 647 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 649 column 74 - Warning: <div> proprietary attribute "width"
line 673 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 730 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 758 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 760 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 764 column 1034 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 368 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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