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Posted on 08-09-09 12:58:35 AM (last edited by Nelrith at 08-08-09 10:02 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by The Red Snifit
So, yeah, she looks nice and all that, but you didn't seem to understand the "disappearing leg" issue, so I prepared a little visual aid for you:


You might want to at least fix that before you move on to your "magnum opus", wouldn't you say?

I actually did that intentionally, it helps the viewer have better regard for the ribbon, as apposed to being a mere accessory. It is a completely separate entity in this illustration.

I originally wanted to do this in Photoshop and add a Gaussian Blur finish to it but I ended up figuring out Paint Tool SAI's stabilizer function and wanted to play with it a bit.

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Posted on 08-09-09 01:17:24 AM Link | Quote
...What does any of that have to do with the fact that you apparently drew an amputee?
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Posted on 08-09-09 01:25:13 AM Link | Quote
For the same reason why the arms and body aren't included in a bust sculpture. The leg isn't supposed to be as significant as the ribbon in this particular case.

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Posted on 08-09-09 02:11:41 AM Link | Quote
Alright, first of all, even if that is true, it's indistinguishable from a simple mistake; it comes off as a bit sloppy as opposed to a method of drawing one's attention to the ribbon.
Second of all, I find it odd that this one part of her leg was the only significantly insignificant bit that needed to be cut to draw attention to the ribbon. If you were going remove some of her body parts to promote the image of the ribbon, why would you pick that horrid spot to do so?
Third of all, including the rest of her leg would have detracted from the focal point? Are you serious?

My apologies if I'm mistaken, but it really does seem like you're dishonestly trying to cover up a mistake instead of fixing it; that'd be quite a shame, since you are obviously quite talented.

Regardless of the reason it's missing, I really think that including the rest of her leg could only improve the illustration, assuming that you would draw it with the same skill you used for the rest of it.
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Posted on 08-09-09 03:21:11 AM Link | Quote
Trust me, it was intentional.

Also, since you're obviously focused on that point, when I redraw her I'll make her legs expand as well, tightening around them so they become amputated! MWAHAHAHA!

Okay, I'm joking about that. If you really want me to change it, I will. I'm just trying to say that it was my own decision to cut off the leg. If the other leg were visible at that point, I would have done it to that one as well!

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Posted on 08-09-09 03:40:57 AM Link | Quote
I think it looks a bit weird being cut like that, yeah. Just something stylistic that didn't quite work as it should've and would've been better with the whole leg.

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I think the problem was that, since the other leg seemed to be there (after all, it wasn't cut) it seems like her right leg was just ... missing. If both were shown like that, it would've worked better.


Also, since you're obviously focused on that point, when I redraw her I'll make her legs expand as well, tightening around them so they become amputated! MWAHAHAHA!

A bit more of an hourglass figure never hurt anybody, but that might be a bit much

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Posted on 08-09-09 03:46:51 AM Link | Quote
As Xk said, the reason it looked werid is simply because the cutoff part of the other leg is not actually shown in the image. Had it been there and we could see that both legs were cut off I could definitely see it is an artistic liberty but the way it is now it does look like a mistake.

Despite that, I still really like the image. I wish I could draw that well...

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Posted on 08-09-09 04:10:34 AM (last edited by Nelrith at 08-09-09 01:16 AM) Link | Quote
Actually, now that I'm focusing on the ribbons and the legs, I've noticed a really big mistake that I was going to fix but forgot about. I'll add that to the list of what people want me to change/fix.

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EDIT: My personally biggest gripe is the shading. Just like the Miku pic, I made some really stupid errors with it and should have given it a second look-over.

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line 240 column 415 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "000000" and has been replaced
line 240 column 481 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 240 column 553 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 240 column 553 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 240 column 889 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 240 column 889 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 240 column 889 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 241 column 935 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 241 column 935 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 241 column 935 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 242 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 242 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 242 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 250 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 250 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 250 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 281 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 293 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 300 column 415 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "000000" and has been replaced
line 300 column 481 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 300 column 553 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 300 column 553 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 304 column 1062 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 304 column 1062 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 304 column 1062 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 305 column 1108 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 305 column 1108 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 305 column 1108 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 306 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 306 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 306 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 314 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 314 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 314 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 314 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 315 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 325 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 332 column 278 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 339 column 1340 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 339 column 1340 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 339 column 1436 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 339 column 1532 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 339 column 1645 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 42 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 42 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 85 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 85 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 128 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 128 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 171 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 171 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 214 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 214 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 257 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 257 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 300 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 300 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 343 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 343 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 386 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 386 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 429 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 429 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 472 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 472 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 345 column 515 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 345 column 515 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 347 column 33 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 350 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 357 column 99 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 359 column 819 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 365 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 365 column 50 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 366 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 366 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 366 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 366 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 367 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 377 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 384 column 415 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "000000" and has been replaced
line 384 column 481 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 384 column 553 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 384 column 553 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 388 column 1111 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 388 column 1111 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 388 column 1111 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 389 column 1157 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 389 column 1157 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 389 column 1157 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 390 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ff3300" and has been replaced
line 390 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "9900cc" and has been replaced
line 390 column 1 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "ffffff" and has been replaced
line 399 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 399 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 399 column 245 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 408 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 413 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 179 column 536 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 179 column 502 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 179 column 481 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 179 column 574 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 179 column 553 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 179 column 553 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 179 column 553 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 179 column 553 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 240 column 536 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 240 column 502 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 240 column 481 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 300 column 536 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 300 column 502 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 300 column 481 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 384 column 536 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 384 column 502 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 384 column 481 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 393 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolorlight"
line 179 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolordark"
line 179 column 186 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 179 column 351 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 211 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 238 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 240 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 240 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolorlight"
line 240 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolordark"
line 240 column 186 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 240 column 351 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 266 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 298 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 300 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 300 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolorlight"
line 300 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolordark"
line 300 column 186 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 300 column 351 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 330 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 355 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 357 column 99 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 382 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 384 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 384 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolorlight"
line 384 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "bordercolordark"
line 384 column 186 - Warning: <td> proprietary attribute "background"
line 384 column 351 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 513 warnings and 4 errors!

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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