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Posted on 07-28-09 11:39:54 AM Link
Originally posted by Shampoo
smp and Peardian are the only two on here using Macs.

And isn't there a Wine for Macs too?

*Cough* (And yes there is)

...But, yeah, I can dual boot, so I wouldn't complain if it was just Windows-only for now. I'd rather not have a Linux and an OSX port hinder what already seems like a long shot of a project anyway, so I also think that it's probably the best way to proceed.

By the way, expect some more plot details relating to Stein in the near future.
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Posted on 07-28-09 04:34:58 PM (last edited by Disch at 07-28-09 01:50 PM) Link
Egads people.

1) Anyone casually suggesting that support for X platform should be dropped for no reason, without any pause, should be punched. If you can reasonably support a platform without extra effort, you should do so. If you disagree, you're a shitty programmer (or not a programmer at all -- which is probably the case here).

2) If you use a competent graphics library (like OpenGL), you should be fine. Don't worry about cutting resources until you notice slowdown. You'd be surprised how fast OpenGL can go even without hardware acceleration. And with it (which is usually the case on any platform), performance for this kind of game will be a nonissue.

3) You shouldn't be doing any blitting. 2D blitting is ancient methodology. Everything on modern PCs is polygons. Render textured quads instead of blitting. That = supported by 3D hardware = bloody fast.

4) Alpha blending is also fast enough to be a nonissue if an appropriate lib is used.


Run some tests. See for yourself. Don't cut flare OR PLATFORM SUPPORT prematurely.


Rendering quads is fast. Changing quads is slow. IE: runtime manipulation of textures is what will bust up your performance.. not the drawing.


EDIT:

21x16 tiles drawn per layer. 4 layers. That's 1344 tiles blitted per layer per frame. 60FPS. That's 80,640 blits.


This assumes that you'll be drawing every tile. Many (most) of those tiles will be fully transparent. So instead of blindly drawing a fully transparent quad, just skip drawing it. Realistically you'll probably be drawing closer to half of that.

But even 1500 quads per scene (frame) isn't extremely demanding by today's standards.

or I have to switch to openGL. This wouldn't be so bad except that I'm not a MacOS/Linux coder and as such I'd have no way to write the code for those OSes


You shouldn't have to. SDL makes setting up OpenGL painless and crossplatform. And OpenGL is a little funky to get used to, but once you're used to it it's easy.

Between SDL and dshlib you shouldn't need to write any platform specific code ;P. And in fact you should refrain from doing so.
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Posted on 07-28-09 06:53:08 PM Link
1) Anyone casually suggesting that support for X platform should be dropped for no reason, without any pause, should be punched. If you can reasonably support a platform without extra effort, you should do so. If you disagree, you're a shitty programmer (or not a programmer at all -- which is probably the case here).


Try listening before you say these things:

Well, running into a couple difficulties. When it comes to performance, software blitting just isn't going to cut it, so either I cut features out of the engine (from 4 tilemaps at a time to 1), or I have to switch to openGL. This wouldn't be so bad except that I'm not a MacOS/Linux coder and as such I'd have no way to write the code for those OSes, which I'm not happy about since that seems like quite a slap in the face for a game meant to involve everyone who wants to be a part of it. So yeah, thoughts on this?


Okay on second thought honestly just drop support for OS X and Linux.


It was suggested because of aparrent performance issues.

Also, pft, I keep forgetting SDL can do 3D work.

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Posted on 07-28-09 07:09:45 PM (last edited by Disch at 07-28-09 04:11 PM) Link
Originally posted by Xkeeper

Try listening before you say these things:


Point taken. I did sort of skim before posting, and edit my post later after reading more carefully. I suppose that's bad practice.

Though I wasn't speaking at Sukasa. He was clearly uneasy about the decision and wasn't sure he wanted to drop support. It was the responses that followed that irked me. They were basically "yeah who cares about portability -- screw the losers that don't use Windows" comments and the like.

Hence why I said "without any pause" in my original post. Sukasa had pause, and was considering the situation rationally (like any good programmer would). It was everyone else that just dismissed it as a nonissue.

EDIT: well not EVERYONE else. But there were some responses like that -- and those where who my comments were directed at.
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Posted on 07-28-09 07:14:27 PM Link
They said that because they would have rather seen a game that worked well on one platform instead of one that didn't on several. Not really rocket science.

Really, the whole thing was just based off the idea that power would have to be cut for speed on all platforms, and if that doesn't actually apply, then it isn't hard to figure that the rest doesn't either.

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Posted on 07-29-09 02:34:17 AM Link
This is our first attempt at a project like this for God's sakes.

Let's get it done, and have all these sexy features in the sequel. :|

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So I have no idea how well it'll run for anyone else or how accurate this count it, but I'm somehow managing to clock 250+ FPS with a dumb renderer using openGL. I dunno how well it'll run once I have proper textures in (probably much slower), but I'm a lot more confident I can pull this off, at least.

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Posted on 07-30-09 03:40:09 AM Link
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Okay guys, more news:

I have a very early tech demo / test program up and running. The download is slightly over 3Mbytes, and I have a request for anyone who's willing to download it:

I need to know how fast it runs on your systems. Anyways, here's the download link and how to work the program:

http://acmlm.kafuka.org/uploader/get.php?id=1867 - Board2 link, so sue me

Anyways, when you run it you should get a black screen with some kinda loud music playing. I'd like to know what the title bar says the FPS is (Wait a couple seconds for it to stabilize). After this, hit [f] and note what the FPS dips to (have have about a second where the dip will show up). Lastly, hit [r] and tell me what the new lower FPS is.

For reference, here's what I get on my machine:

~2450 FPS
~2000 FPS
~1330 FPS

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Posted on 07-30-09 11:43:39 AM (last edited by The Red Snifit at 07-30-09 08:54 AM) Link
It, uh, doesn't run for me.

Apparently, the application configuration is incorrect.

...The music's neat, though. Where's it from?
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Posted on 07-30-09 01:31:09 PM Link
We went over it last night. He needs to figure out what DLLs or SxS is missing.

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Posted on 07-30-09 04:47:10 PM Link
So, yeah, now it's up and running. Here are the FPSs:

[11:45] <@RedSnifit> 1365
[11:45] <@RedSnifit> 1365
[11:45] <@RedSnifit> 645
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Mine have dropped somewhat, too:

1475, 1475, and 711.

Anyways, if you want to help download the version I linked earlier and replace the .exe with this one:

http://sukasa.kicks-ass.org/megajul.exe

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I'm running ~60 FPS. Also, the close button doesn't work.

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I'm running at over 500FPS and the screen is black. :<

(Running windows XP here)

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Posted on 07-30-09 07:30:47 PM Link
Now with 60% more chance of spontaneous combustion.
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490-500
490
~167

It also jumps to 37000 when minimized and pressing other keys causes a massive slowdown on the music.

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Originally posted by Green-Kirby
I'm running at over 500FPS and the screen is black. :<

(Running windows XP here)


Check my earlier post, you have to hit [f] then [r] to start the tiles (debug stuff, etc.), or [f] to close it. press [f] after [r] to close it as well.

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Posted on 07-30-09 07:52:11 PM Link
500. Music is choppy as hell.
165 after that, with even worse music

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Posted on 07-30-09 07:53:23 PM Link
What comp?

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Just for the record I'm not worried about music issues, they're caused because the game itself uses up as much CPU as possible to get the highest framerate it can, which leaves basically no CPU time left for the audio. I had another version I gave out to a couple people having the audio issue (which really just re-enabled the FPS limiter) and their audio problems disappeared.

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Posted on 07-30-09 09:14:22 PM (last edited by Hiryuu at 07-30-09 06:26 PM) Link
76-77 FPS @ 75Hz.

VSync enabled. No audio lag.

>>>

7565 FPS DISCH
7555 FPS DDS/ONEWAYSTAIRS
2943 FPS DDS/ONEWAYSTAIRS/TILES

VSync disabled. No audio lag...but you cut the audio for One Way Stairs a bit tight on the loop...not too bad if you're not used to doing it though.

>>>

Using:
AMD Phenom 9500
GeForce 9800 GTX+, 1GB GDDR3
OCZ 2GB DDR2-800 (PC2-6400)
Windows XP Professional SP3
Sound Blaster Audigy SE

EDIT: So we're using uncompressed graphics in here too? BMPs?

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line 491 column 1142 - Warning: <td> attribute "valign" has invalid value "center"
line 491 column 1142 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 491 column 1336 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 491 column 1406 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 559 column 42 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 559 column 85 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 559 column 128 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 559 column 171 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 559 column 214 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 559 column 257 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 559 column 300 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 571 column 437 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 715 column 933 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 715 column 971 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 715 column 1035 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 715 column 1142 - Warning: <td> attribute "valign" has invalid value "center"
line 715 column 1142 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 715 column 1266 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 715 column 1336 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 715 column 1401 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 715 column 1446 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
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line 767 column 933 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 767 column 971 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 767 column 1035 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 767 column 1104 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 767 column 1142 - Warning: <td> attribute "valign" has invalid value "center"
line 767 column 1142 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 788 column 1799 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 788 column 1869 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 788 column 1934 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 788 column 1979 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "3333FF" and has been replaced
line 797 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 797 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 797 column 216 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 806 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 811 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 791 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 210 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 265 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 301 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 337 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 365 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 367 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 393 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 419 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 459 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 489 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 491 column 788 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 491 column 873 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 491 column 1591 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 515 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 545 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 569 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 571 column 99 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 594 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 596 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 596 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 624 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 626 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 632 column 827 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 656 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 686 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 713 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 715 column 788 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 715 column 873 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 715 column 1521 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 739 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 765 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 767 column 788 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 767 column 873 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 788 column 2054 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 409 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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