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Posted on 08-05-07 06:45:52 PM (last edited by Metal_Man88 at 12-24-07 02:52 AM) Link
Alright, I'm not staff or anyone with any forum of power [EDIT: Apparently, I am now], but I think I'm going to take a bit of initiative and make a bit of a forum rule system. Here goes.

This is MetalMan88 here, I'm going to add to this already useful post some more information on how to use this forum. The FAQs of course remain. -Metal_Man88



BEFORE POSTING A THREAD


Many junk things have been posted in here. It's time for that to end. When you go to post a thread, it must be somewhat like the following:


  • A tool or project
  • A theory (with information to back it up)
  • A new discovery
  • A mod or hack itself (there's more rules on those, keep reading)
  • Something informative that isn't blatantly obvious
  • A well-phrased non-duh Question


It must posess the following if it is to survive long in this forum:

  • Pictures (If a tool or a project)
  • A constructive use (If a tool)
  • Quality (Nobody's going to be reading a bunch of gibberish)
  • A link to the related patch/program (Especially with hacks, but also with tools; we don't want to just be teased with the images and a 'COMING SOON' message)
  • Some interesting or positive quality (You could make a tool to mess up all the colors without reason, but who would use that???)
  • If a question or theory, some practical reason to ask it or reason for you to posit it (You could post "Penguins are always blue! OMG" but that'd not be useful)
  • Something else along these lines


Furthermore, if you are posting hacks, you must follow these guidelines when posting a hack/mod:

Originally posted by VL-Tone
From now on, you'll have to get the permission from me or another moderator until you can make a thread about an individual mod/hack. First, you'll have to demonstrate, by showing your mod in the dedicated thread http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?id=436 that your mod is worthy of having its own thread.


Random questions, threads about drama, idiocy, whining, threads without any supporting purpose/picture/movie/patch/reason and such are likely to be closed and/or deleted.

In addition to that, please read the FAQ below.




FAQs

Before you ask ANY QUESTIONS, please read the forum FAQ, the Toad's Tool FAQ and the Toad's Tool help thread. There are few things more annoying than being asked the most mundane, half-way obvious and easily answered questions over, and over, and over by someone who didn't have the courtesy to read the FAQ.

ROM POLICY

Direct linking to any commercial* ROM, be it the vanilla game or a hacked version, is expressly forbidden. IPS/NINJA/PPF/whatever patches are okay. However, what you do in private is none of our business.

*Commercial refers to a ROM that was dumped from a video game that was released on a console for profit. Homebrew ROMs, meaning that they were made by amateur programmers who are coding for the system for non-profit reasons, are perfectly fine to link.

HOW TO GET HELP

If you've read the FAQs and help thread and you still have questions, post a reply to the help thread with clear and concise information on your problem. If you post a question simply saying "I open the program and it crash what do I do" - you will probably get no help at all. We're not mind readers, we can't know exactly what the issue is. If you need help on a feature, be specific on what you need to be done. If you're having technical issues, be very specific. If the program is behaving oddly, note very specifically what is going wrong ("it turns black" is NOT specific at all). If the program is crashing or failing to start up, post exactly what the error message says, along with system specs. The more in depth you explain your problems, the greater your chances of being helped.

(Take note that I'm just writing this FAQ; I do not actually use Toad's Tool myself so I will probably not be able to answer your question)

DON'T BE AN IDIOT

This should be common sense, but I'm going to throw this down for consistency. First off, type reasonably well. "hey wen u open th rom ware do i find how2 chang tihng?s" is absolutely unacceptable. If English is not your native language, there will be much more leniency for you. Still, don't use it as an excuse to not make sense. You don't need to be completely perfect by any means, but at least give an effort.

Another part of not being an idiot is being reasonably nice to people. Don't be rude. If a newbie comes along and violates everything I've said in this thread, please don't just roast them on the spot. Many of the users will likely be young and won't know much of common forum decency. Instead, just give them a friendly link to this FAQ and leave it at that. If you jump all over them with a series of personal attacks and general flaming, you may quickly find yourself being the one in trouble. If a person repeatedly violates the rules, don't play moderator; let someone who IS a moderator/admin take care of the situation.

PUNISHMENT AND ENFORCEMENT

All rules are usually enforced. The punishment for breaking the rules generally goes as follows:

First offence: warning
Second offence: three day ban
Third offence: week long ban
Fourth offence: indefinite ban

This is not set in stone and in varies per situation.

CONCLUSION

Don't be intimidated by this FAQ! It's actually not that complicated. In summary:

Read the FAQ
Don't post ROM links
Type reasonably well
Don't be a jerk

That's all you really need to know!

FOOTNOTE

While it's no means a rule, if you want people to try out your hack, post screenshots. Post them in the thread. No one will download it if you do. Even if you put screenshots in the RAR, no one will download it. People need to see what they're downloading before they consider downloading it, mmkay?

And a final note from the administration, to those who think they can ignore the rules or are entitled to clogging the forum to junk.

Originally posted by Guy54123
Many of you are dangerously close to being nuked into oblivion due to EXTREEM IDIOCY. If the IQ around here doesn't improve by some detectable amount, expect your posting privileges to be revoked with extreme prejudice. I don't feel much like hosting a daycare on my server.

That is all.



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Posted on 08-05-07 08:41:17 PM Link
By the way, where's the paragraph on NINJA and IPS patches?

Just wondering, since if you manage to make M64 too big for an IPS patch you WILL be needing a NINJA patch

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Thank you very much Kles for this very useful post

Originally posted by Grey Mario
By the way, where's the paragraph on NINJA and IPS patches?

Just wondering, since if you manage to make M64 too big for an IPS patch you WILL be needing a NINJA patch


Part of the level data in the Extended SM64 ROM is over the 16MB limit (the total size is 24MB) so some of the things that are edited won't be patched with an IPS patch.

I recommended standardizing over the PPF patch format for SM64 hacks, and that's what TT64 users have been using for now.

PPF is the "Playstation Patch Format", but it's already used to patch many other types of file, and there are dozens of programs supporting it.

I chose PPF over NINJA simply because there's no NINJA patching tool on the Mac, but there are PPF tools on all platforms. Since all SM64 patches released until now are in .PPF format, all patches I will release will be in PPF and since TT64 is for Mac and Windows, it makes sense to use PPF over NINJA, even though some of you may not care about the Mac platform.

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Posted on 08-05-07 09:02:52 PM Link
Good, Im already experimenting with both of those.

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Posted on 08-05-07 10:50:15 PM Link
Also, a side note: This is a good example of a bad thread and post

Also, bad layouts in be nuked/maimed and your ability to edit these (and possibly your avatar set/userpic) will be disabled if this keeps up.


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Posted on 08-05-07 10:54:54 PM Link
I figured this was a place to ask questions about the rules of this er... sub-forum...thing, so if it is not delete my post.

anyways, should we post singular threads to show off out mods, or should we make one thread to do so?
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Posted on 08-05-07 10:56:55 PM Link
You could do, or we could always sticky a Mario 64 project thread (with screenshots)


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Posted on 08-05-07 10:58:46 PM; last edit by Kles on 08-05-07 10:59 PM Link
Pozeal: I think we should just have one thread for general screenshots, but you can go ahead and make if you'd like.

EDIT: Individual major projects can have their own threads.

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Posted on 08-05-07 11:01:27 PM Link
how do you scale if the project is major or minor? does it depend on the progress of the hack? how do you tell when it is makor?

god I ask too many questions due to my lack of common sense
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Posted on 08-05-07 11:10:49 PM Link
Just rearranging the tiles - messing around as too complete overhaul of the original and designed from scratch.

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....so you mean customizing and making creative missions is major?
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Posted on 08-05-07 11:13:33 PM; last edit by roger3245 on 08-05-07 11:18 PM Link
not for me it isn't...

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Posted on 08-05-07 11:16:58 PM Link
Full customization - Creating everything of your own, like deleting all the data and applying by scratch - that is as major as it gets.

Roger, posts have to have some sort of content in them

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Ok, sorry, I was just skim-reading this and was in a hury.

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Posted on 08-05-07 11:22:17 PM Link
but isn't it impossible to "start from scratch" as you say, fue to toad's tool's limitations?
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Posted on 08-05-07 11:24:11 PM Link
I wouldn't know - hacking isn't my style at all.
Anyway, less clutter in the FAQ. Go work on your castle with pipes all around.

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Posted on 08-05-07 11:39:49 PM Link
Okay, I'm not going to bite anyone's head off over this.

Make a thread for your hack if you feel like it, or make a screeenshots for other people. If there is such a screenshots thread, use it unless you'd like to showcase a large hack (which will not exist at this point).

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Posted on 08-09-07 05:07:08 PM Link
Actually, just post in the TT64 Hacks and Patches thread that VL-Tone created.

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I have upgraded this topic. Please post any questions or comments in here.

Just don't post junk in here. That will be deleted.

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Just a note to all who only browse the SM64 Hacking forums:

There are other forums too, where you could post! Join the Jul community today!
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line 448 column 3787 - Warning: <td> anchor "lorighttd" already defined
line 448 column 3820 - Warning: <td> anchor "lobottomtd" already defined
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line 457 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 467 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 482 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 489 column 304 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "888888" and has been replaced
line 496 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 496 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 496 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 496 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 497 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 507 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 521 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 521 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 521 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 521 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 521 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 521 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 521 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 521 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 521 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 521 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 521 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 521 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 521 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 521 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 521 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 521 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 521 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 521 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 522 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 522 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 522 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 522 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 523 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 533 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 540 column 103 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 540 column 245 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 549 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 558 column 317 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 558 column 317 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 558 column 439 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "888888" and has been replaced
line 564 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 564 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 564 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 564 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 564 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 564 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 564 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 564 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 564 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 564 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 564 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 564 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 564 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 564 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 564 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 564 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 564 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 564 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 565 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 565 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 565 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 565 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 566 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 576 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 583 column 103 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 583 column 281 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 594 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 594 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 594 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 594 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 595 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 605 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 618 column 37 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 626 column 324 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "888888" and has been replaced
line 633 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 633 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 633 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 633 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 634 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 644 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 651 column 3342 - Warning: <td> anchor "lotoptd" already defined
line 651 column 3383 - Warning: <td> anchor "lolefttd" already defined
line 651 column 3406 - Warning: <td> anchor "lomaintd" already defined
line 653 column 3884 - Warning: <td> anchor "lorighttd" already defined
line 653 column 3917 - Warning: <td> anchor "lobottomtd" already defined
line 660 column 15 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 660 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 660 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 660 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 660 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 660 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 660 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 660 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 660 column 187 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 660 column 187 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 660 column 230 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 660 column 230 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 660 column 273 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 660 column 273 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 660 column 316 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 660 column 316 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 660 column 359 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 660 column 359 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 661 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 661 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 661 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 661 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 662 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 672 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 679 column 103 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 679 column 301 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 689 column 17 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 689 column 17 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 689 column 60 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 689 column 60 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 689 column 103 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 689 column 103 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 689 column 146 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 689 column 146 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 689 column 189 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 689 column 189 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 689 column 232 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 689 column 232 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 689 column 275 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 689 column 275 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 689 column 318 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 689 column 318 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 689 column 361 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 689 column 361 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 690 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 690 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 690 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 690 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 691 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 701 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 710 column 332 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 720 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 720 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 720 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 720 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 721 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 731 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 749 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 749 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 749 column 216 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 758 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 763 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 708 column 73 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 743 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 282 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 309 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 348 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 374 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 403 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 418 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 444 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 472 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 487 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 512 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 538 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 554 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 581 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 610 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 623 column 47 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 649 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 677 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 706 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 708 column 116 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "background"
line 736 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 366 warnings and 1 error!

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md