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Posted on 06-09-09 07:43:01 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Supakitsune
Keep the ads as you have them set up now, Xk. There's only a (really vocal) minority who seem to be out-and-out opposed to them.


Yea, and we're not happy with it, hence saying put em back the way it was.

I don't know why you'd keep them this way when keeping it how things were would be a bit of an aesthetic please. I just think it's dumb to do so for registered users.

Non-registered? Different story. Ad the thing up.

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Posted on 06-09-09 07:49:12 PM (last edited by Xkeeper at 06-09-09 04:49 PM) Link | Quote
That might make sense if we had more than 2 unregistered non-spambot non-hack guests on per day.

Seriously, is it really that big of a deal?

The other half of this (aside from paying bills) is that if we manage to get ahead, we can look into other services, e.g. a Ventrilo server for those of us who miss the days when Skype didn't suck total ass.

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Posted on 06-09-09 07:51:26 PM Link | Quote
And I'm saying others like myself and I can foot the bill regardless.

If you really wanted something like what you've just mentioned, you would've mentioned it a long time ago...I've already told you a while back that I don't mind footing dough towards benefitting this place. There is honestly no need to make this place look any worse to attempt to compensate for something so little.

If this was something in or around the tune of 1000 dollars, I think we would have more cause for concern. As it stands, I make what we owe a year in a little over a day right now.

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Posted on 06-09-09 07:53:02 PM Link | Quote
The point is that I WOULD RATHER BE INDEPENDENT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RELY ON PEOPLE TO FOOT THE BILLS.

Much like moving out versus living with your parents, having a site that is self-sufficient feels good, and means that we can save all of the potential donors for when things really go wrong.

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Posted on 06-09-09 07:53:58 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
The point is that I WOULD RATHER BE INDEPENDENT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RELY ON PEOPLE TO FOOT THE BILLS....


Well, now this all starts making sense...

I get it now. Okay. You do what you want.


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Posted on 06-09-09 07:57:54 PM Link | Quote
Well, that and in the event something irreversable happens, nobody feels cheated out of their money. That's another big one. Honestly, I just want to avoid taking donations as much as possible.

Oh, and by the way, I was acutally going to make an option in editprofile that would hide the one in threads. But after all of this? It can wait a few days.

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Posted on 06-09-09 08:00:42 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Well, that and in the event something irreversable happens, nobody feels cheated out of their money ... Honestly, I just want to avoid taking donations as much as possible...


Oh right and the amount of posting and the bandwidth, down and up, wouldn't make me want to put just a little bit in to compensate for your trouble.

But I get it...you just don't want to feel like you owe people when we're not in it for something like that. Purely fine...don't want to make you feel like such an offer by staff would serve to put you on point like that. I understand perfectly.

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Posted on 06-09-09 08:26:32 PM Link | Quote

We should have some fake ads. I got photoshop on my computer, so I thought about making some for shits and giggles.

Never made a .gif before with it, so now would be a good time for me to learn.

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Posted on 06-09-09 08:36:11 PM Link | Quote
I'm not that bothered by them, actually. I click on them pretty frequently to help get the income up. I do that on a few sites I frequent. That's the next best thing next to donation, so if you want to help, click some damn ads. Just don't spam click the same ones, usually if the ad's company won't pay if they see multiple clicks from the same person. At least that's what I've heard.

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Posted on 06-09-09 08:37:31 PM Link | Quote
Geeze, what's wrong with wanting to have some self-sufficiency? I'm totally fine with the ads.

Heck, I hardly notice it, even with its new positioning. Only place I actually notice it is at the bottom of the page without something bringing attention to them (like this thread).

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Posted on 06-09-09 09:08:22 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Bitmap
We should have some fake ads. I got photoshop on my computer, so I thought about making some for shits and giggles.

Never made a .gif before with it, so now would be a good time for me to learn.

You mean like the old Nick.com prank ads?

(apparently nobody on the internet anywhere ever seems to remember this, so I'll just explain: Nick.com had weird "fake ads" for things like "Immortal Wombat" and whatnot. Like Wacky Packages except with ads, basically.)

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Posted on 06-10-09 12:00:26 AM (last edited by GuyPerfect at 06-09-09 09:03 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Much like moving out versus living with your parents, having a site that is self-sufficient feels good, and means that we can save all of the potential donors for when things really go wrong.

Wait, you mean people will voluntarily pay my rent and utilities? I'll take it. I'll save the employment for such a time when I need it. You know, like a backup plan for when things really go wrong.

EDIT:
This post is, of course, a parallel to the board here in that my home represents the hosting service and my job represents the ad revenue. It wasn't as obvious as it sounded when I typed it.
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Posted on 06-10-09 03:46:59 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by GuyPerfect
Originally posted by Xkeeper
Much like moving out versus living with your parents, having a site that is self-sufficient feels good, and means that we can save all of the potential donors for when things really go wrong.

Wait, you mean people will voluntarily pay my rent and utilities? I'll take it. I'll save the employment for such a time when I need it. You know, like a backup plan for when things really go wrong.

EDIT:
This post is, of course, a parallel to the board here in that my home represents the hosting service and my job represents the ad revenue. It wasn't as obvious as it sounded when I typed it.

You're a few hours late to the party, there, champ.

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Posted on 06-10-09 03:54:48 AM Link | Quote
Jeez, not being Spontaneous Madness is gonna take some getting used to...
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Originally posted by GuyPerfect
Wait, you mean people will voluntarily pay my rent and utilities? I'll take it. I'll save the employment for such a time when I need it. You know, like a backup plan for when things really go wrong.

Wait, don't you mean the other way around? First you try to be self-sufficient and then if it fails ask for help...
Unless... that's your point.

And I actually don't mind the extra ads. My only complaint is the ads themselves I get, but that's just my problem. It probably works quite well otherwise...

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Posted on 06-10-09 03:56:51 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Reimu
Originally posted by GuyPerfect
Wait, you mean people will voluntarily pay my rent and utilities? I'll take it. I'll save the employment for such a time when I need it. You know, like a backup plan for when things really go wrong.

Wait, don't you mean the other way around? First you try to be self-sufficient and then if it fails ask for help...
Unless... that's your point.

And I actually don't mind the extra ads. My only complaint is the ads themselves I get, but that's just my problem. It probably works quite well otherwise...

He was being sarcastic. He does that.

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Posted on 06-10-09 04:18:05 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Reimu
First you try to be self-sufficient and then if it fails ask for help...

Normally sounds like a plan, though if people offer to throw money at me, I'll cover expenses out of that instead and if that fails, I'll fall back to the ever-reliable taxable income.

Philosopical considerations, is all. If you don't want to go that way, Xkeeper, I'll shut up about it.
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Posted on 06-10-09 04:30:16 AM Link | Quote
Okay, you've managed to completely fucking confuse me.

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Posted on 06-10-09 04:41:44 AM Link | Quote
People offering to get rid of ads = Free Money.
Ad revenue = Standard Income.
Asking for people to donate = Emergency Funds.

The way I see it, take any free money that's available. If none is available, use the normal means of income to cover any costs. In the event the income dries up, ask for money to fill the cracks until income is available again.

From my perspective, accepting donations even during a period of self-sufficiency is not only acceptable, but a good idea. I don't consider it to be at all depreciating to pay for the site with donations if donations are available. I get the idea that you want to avoid donations because you see them on more the emergency funds side than the free money side.
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Posted on 06-10-09 04:53:01 AM Link | Quote
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Posted on 06-10-09 06:51:28 AM Link | Quote
In the event you're still that damn adamant on donating to get rid of the ads, here:

Donate link. By proxy.

From there, whenever I get the notice, I'll remove them for you. Jeez.

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line 388 column 74 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "000000" and has been replaced
line 388 column 287 - Warning: <td> attribute "bgcolor" has invalid value "#00000"
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line 694 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 694 column 58 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 694 column 58 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 694 column 101 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 694 column 101 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 694 column 144 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 694 column 144 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 694 column 191 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "cc66cc" and has been replaced
line 695 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 715 column 1912 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 715 column 1912 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 716 column 2260 - Warning: <font> attribute "color" had invalid value "CDE9F4" and has been replaced
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line 756 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 756 column 243 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
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line 770 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 445 column 793 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 471 column 357 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 564 column 516 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 750 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 179 column 1308 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 179 column 1411 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 185 column 2326 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 209 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 239 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 241 column 1308 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 241 column 1411 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 245 column 2368 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 269 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 297 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 299 column 1308 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 299 column 1411 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 304 column 2094 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 328 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 356 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 358 column 1308 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 358 column 1411 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 362 column 2463 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 386 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 388 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 415 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 441 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 443 column 254 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 469 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 471 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 500 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 530 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 561 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 563 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 569 column 1335 - Warning: <marquee> is not approved by W3C
line 593 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 624 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 653 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 679 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 711 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 713 column 1370 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 741 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 413 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md