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Posted on 07-04-17 01:32:36 PM Link | Quote
I feel like I need to improve my English speaking skills. I think I can write and read well enough and that I can also understand what other people are talking, but my accent is the most broken thing ever and I also have a slight difficulty of thinking about what words I'm going to say on the spot.
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Posted on 07-04-17 04:52:07 PM Link | Quote


I on occasion get held-up while speaking cuz my mouth gets ahead of my brain and it takes a few good seconds of stuttering to pick back up... /:

I also cracked under pressure during speech class one time... hated that

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Posted on 07-04-17 04:59:06 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by brian151
I on occasion get held-up while speaking cuz my mouth gets ahead of my brain and it takes a few good seconds of stuttering to pick back up... /:

Happens to me as well, sometimes in weird ways though even in my main language, such as when I mixed the words vogal (vowel) and consoante (consonant) and got vogante and consoal. Usually it's because I'm still joining words together even though I'm also speaking so both end up merging as a result.
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Posted on 07-04-17 07:55:36 PM Link | Quote
@brian151
A lot of people only see classroom settings as the place to learn materials. It ultimately depends on the subject at hand and your motivation. At the end of the day, self study alone won't get you a degree in a subject. You still have to be tethered to classes but for certain subjects, self study can be much easier and cheaper. People seem to doubt themselves. It isn't that hard to Google up subjects and start learning right away. There is also something to be said for researching up some books that you can look at or pick up from a library. Beats a classroom where professors can force you to get the latest edition of book X. Shit is expensive and sucks.

Public speaking sucks.

@RanAS
Has you (or anyone else) ever tried apps like Tandum or HelloTalk? They are basically apps that allow you to engage in conversation with someone who speaks language X. I haven't personally tried them myself. Found out about them after thinking it would be cool to have pen pals with someone from another country with the goal of improving conversation skills (at least written). If I decided to learn Japanese, I'd probably give these apps a waggle. I guess the other thing one could do is just go to websites in said desired language but these apps are geared for conversarion. It would be cool to find more apps & websites that are similar.
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Posted on 07-04-17 08:52:53 PM Link | Quote


@RanAS
Yeah, I'm not sure why it happens to me, but it does...

@Cuber456
When that's what you're lead to believe. But even some experts have admitted that setting might not be so optimal, and the school/work environment is so artificial/unnatural that it's actually hindering people.

Degrees are... IDK... Plenty of people question their value. They're nothing more than a certificate of authenticity, but even less reliable. A case in point my dad brought-up is doctors. God help you if your doctor is the guy that graduated at the bottom of his class. Also, seeing the stuff some 'experts' say these days, I wonder if they really know anything... or even, if they've been paid-off to lie.

Yes, it does... I very near failed that class, too... the grade weights are BS! (or at least, they were at my school)

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Posted on 07-05-17 07:38:43 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cuber456
Has you (or anyone else) ever tried apps like Tandum or HelloTalk? They are basically apps that allow you to engage in conversation with someone who speaks language X. I haven't personally tried them myself. Found out about them after thinking it would be cool to have pen pals with someone from another country with the goal of improving conversation skills (at least written). If I decided to learn Japanese, I'd probably give these apps a waggle. I guess the other thing one could do is just go to websites in said desired language but these apps are geared for conversarion. It would be cool to find more apps & websites that are similar.

I haven't tried it, might consider it since I do agree it sounds cool, but I'm usually very nervous talking to someone I don't really know.
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Posted on 07-05-17 11:08:50 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by RanAS
but I'm usually very nervous talking to someone I don't really know.

That's a fair point. You really don't know who you are talking to. That's part of the reason I've held back. Well that and because I don't know a foreign language well enough to throw myself into the fray! Being pen pals with someone from another country does sound wicked cool though.

@brian151
Ideally, public speaking is about knowing the material you are going to present and practicing like crazy so that you've nailed down what you are going to say.

You want to know your material because, if you are presenting in front of people, you are the assumed expert! This part is really more critical for when you get the person who likes to ask questions on your presentation (during or after) that divert away from your original script. This can be a little tricky because you might get an oddball question you have to field.

You want to have some sort of script practiced and memorized so that you can hit the ground running and keep a pace. It sucks when you are presenting something and you are fumbling around for what to say (I've been there and it blows). Also sucks for the audience because they have to watch you break a sweat.

I hate public speaking just because it does require thorough prep to get right and I also hate being the center of attention.
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Posted on 07-06-17 03:40:35 AM Link | Quote


What's funny, is even my own mother agrees that the "memorize everything" part is a complete joke and waste of time. (my mom and i often argue because very rarely do we see completely eye to eye) Most people today use teleprompters and cue cards. I would certainly use the latter. The expectation for experts to have completely memorized their shit is a bit unrealistic... put them under pressure, it's even more so. Oddball questions can appear anywhere. Honestly, I can struggle with normal questions, even. One of my speeches I honestly couldn't fully answer one of them "what kinds of games would you make, if you could make anything?" To this date, I can't answer it. All I am certain of is I want to make something special. Now, as for cracking under pressure... I tried explaining programming, and I used batch as an example 'cuz it's VERY easy to use as one. I tripped-up on the arithmetic operations... yeah, real smooth..... I absolutely HATE being the center of attention. I don't like to be completely ignored, either, but I HATE having massive amounts of attention drawn towards me. Also, let's apply "memorize it!" in a more drastic scenario: chemistry. If I were to become a chemist (I have no desire to, I fear I'll blow something up or poison someone) , I'm not relying on my memory, I'm relying on notes or books with the formulas and whatnot, as much as possible. People are not computers, cramming stuff into memory is extremely error-prone, and it can fail altogether in stressful situations. When programming, you should see how often I open-up online documentation or look for an answer on StackOverflow. I go by my memory as best I can, but expecting me to 100% know everything (and remember, even after doing it) is just absurd. In the regards of mandating everyone to remember some speech, I have NO respect for public speaking. Especially when the high-profile speakers have cue card and teleprompters, anyways. Some of them don't even WRITE their speeches. Sorry if this is kinda rambling, but it'll be a cold day in Hell when I take the "thou shalt memorize speeches forward, backwards, inside out, sideways, any-ways" thing seriously... One half because it's a double-standard, and the other because it's a highly unrealistic expectation in the first place, one that very few people, realistically, will ever be capable of.

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Posted on 07-07-17 11:33:06 PM Link | Quote
I used to hate public speaking for all the reasons people mentioned already. However, my mind began to change after taking my first public speaking course in college.

Instead of memorizing a full speech, I learned to put down some bullet points on notecards or a powerpoint instead, and fill in the rest freeform. In this way, all of my focus goes to imparting knowledge and sounding the best I possibly can, instead of putting so much pressure on myself to repeat back a bunch of words in a specific order.

Also, while memorization may not be the most practical way to prepare for a speech, I find that rehearsing what I might say off of bullet points is be much more helpful. Not only do I feel myself getting more and more comfortable with what I might say and soak in what I already know, but it also helps me get comfortable with any time limits I may have (in case, say, I only have 5 or 10 minutes to speak). More often than not, I usually have far less time than I think, making it even easier on me.

TL;DR: Practice and Rehearsal is better than memorization. Notecards always.
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Posted on 07-08-17 02:45:01 AM Link | Quote


hardly merits a tl;dr
and tbh, that excuse annoys me...

what you're saying makes sense. still won't change my opinions on taking such courses, and especially on the being mandated. Some people aren't cut-out for public speaking, and that's the plain and simple truth. The sooner schools cut this "jack of all trades" and "one size fits all" bull crap, the better everything will be.

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Originally posted by brian151
hardly merits a tl;dr
and tbh, that excuse annoys me...


Which excuse do you mean?

Originally posted by brian151
what you're saying makes sense. still won't change my opinions on taking such courses, and especially on the being mandated.


I'm not looking to change opinions or preferences, just sharing what worked for me in the past.

Originally posted by brian151
Some people aren't cut-out for public speaking, and that's the plain and simple truth.


Do you believe this about yourself? If so, how did you find out?

To be clear, some people will always have a natural talent for public speaking (or any skill, really) over others. However, that doesn't mean that people can't improve, or at least learn the basics to get by if they have to.

Worst case scenario, people can learn their limits and skills and move on elsewhere, but you're never going to know until you give it a shot.

Originally posted by brian151
The sooner schools cut this "jack of all trades" and "one size fits all" bull crap, the better everything will be.


I haven't followed this thread since the beginning, but I have to wonder which "schools" you're talking about. I've noticed this complaint more about the Junior High / High School and 1st year college levels. This doesn't last forever, and the further up in higher education you get, the more majors and specialized training kicks in. Which level are you referring to here?
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Posted on 07-10-17 09:38:30 PM Link | Quote


excuse:
"too long, didn't read"
I've personally been told this a million bloody times...
And when i go to shorten it?
"explain more"

opinions:
fair enough
i'm too used to confrontations over such things...

some can't some can:
me?
honestly, yes... because i too easily crack under pressure. same as i can lose motivation if there's next to none and i'm literally just regurgitating stuff. both of these hit me very bad through school.

natural talent?
i agree with that much. forcing those who simply aren't comfortable with it i do not condone, and liability falls entirely on the person forcing them into it, if/when they should screw-up.

try things?
i gave it a shot, cuz i was forced, but still... i barely survived...

jack-of-all trades, 'standards':
ugh, this is going to need a text wall... i don't wanna
i will say this much:
"jack of all trades, and a master of none"
standardized education (most especially how it's being approached) just can't work because people learn differently. In addition to this, gimmicky education is far more effective (same in work environments) because the human race learns/produces more in playful and fun environments than these, well, basically, prisons. One problem that now to think of it, that I've observed, since people learn at different paces, is the "standardized tests"... For slower people, achieving even the 'average' score is difficult/impossible. For the faster and smarter people, the test is a complete waste of time and not challenging them. And then the college entrance exams... I'm with the people that say it's probably not necessary. Was already "allowed" (forced, more like) to do the SAT for free, and it was nothing but utter hell and caused extreme anxiety the whole time. Also, it's controlled by an organization that's basically like Big Brother. (In fact, i'd say that organization is absolutely, by all definitions, a police state.) I'm kinda rambling, and not being clear here, sorry, this is just a touchy subject for me, and it takes me far too much brainpower to formulate any type of argument about the subject. I may skip replying to this entirely, sorry. I just... it's complicated.

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I have Ride On Time (the Japanese funk song) stuck in my head and while I like it the bits with the backup singers going "ooooohhh" sticking in my head kind of drive me up the wall.

I'd still recommend Tatsuro Yamashita (and Toshiki Kadomatsu) because they have some good discographies and their music is great "night out on the town" stuff.

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I come home from Finland and Jul seems to have had this multiple-day spree? Well, I had actually thought it was about time if you check the trend line!

We're having a resurgence!


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Yes, you can definitely feel the increased activity. It's great! It's like an impromptu spree, let's hope it leads to a sustained activity increase!
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And at some point someone makes a post that nobody replies to, and it all falls apart...

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That just means you need to make more threads. They don't last forever.

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line 793 column 74 - Warning: <style> isn't allowed in <td> elements
line 793 column 9 - Info: <td> previously mentioned
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line 582 column 1028 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 617 column 16 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 685 column 74 - Warning: <table> attribute "bgcolor" had invalid value "031c69" and has been replaced
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line 793 column 901 - Warning: <div> anchor "xklayout" already defined
line 802 column 43 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 802 column 140 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 802 column 241 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 811 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 816 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 685 column 309 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 796 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 203 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 233 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 260 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 292 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 328 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 355 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 391 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 419 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 451 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 482 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 528 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 580 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 606 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 634 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 683 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 685 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 712 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 738 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 765 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 791 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 397 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
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