Register - Login
Views: 99385477
 Main - Memberlist - Active users - Calendar - Wiki - IRC Chat - Online users
Ranks - Rules/FAQ - Stats - Latest Posts - Color Chart - Smilies		 04-24-22 04:06:27 AM
Jul - The Cutting Room Floor - My Perfect Dark soundtrack CD has N64 devkit materials on it New poll - New thread - New reply
Next newer thread | Next older thread
Nat
Random nobody
Level: 4


Posts: 1/3
EXP: 239
For next: 40

Since: 07-02-16


Since last post: 5.8 years
Last activity: 5.8 years
Posted on 07-02-16 01:12:30 AM Link | Quote
I posted about this on HG101 and they reminded me that you guys might find it interesting. Hopefully this is the correct place for it.

I borrowed the Perfect Dark Dual CD Soundtrack from my local library, but the second disc doesn't work as intended. It won't play music in a stereo and foobar2k won't read it. Instead, Windows opens it as a data disc. This is what it displays in the root directory:

Perfect Dark Soundtrack files

And this is what's inside the exegcc folder:

Perfect Dark soundtrack files 2

This isn't music. Creating an ISO of the disc is only 74MB; there's no audio on this CD. install.txt tells us that os20l_eng.exe is an installer for Nintendo 64 OS2.0L, which appears to be development software from the N64 era. exegcc is a tool from Kyoto Microcomputers Co., Ltd., who partnered with Nintendo in 1996 to develop their SDK.

I've done some searching, but I can't find anybody online who's ever observed this in their copy of the OST. One VGMdb user replied with evidence that theirs was working as intended. Some mutual friends reached out to Grant Kirkhope and Graeme Norgate, but neither of them could explain it, nor would I expect them to be involved at that stage of production.

What are you guys' thoughts on this? I'm quite interested in finding out more and learning how this kind of mistake could have occurred - and in such small numbers, at that.
Foxhack
Member
Annoying fuzzball
Level: 54


Posts: 661/722
EXP: 1173412
For next: 60458

Since: 04-17-12

From: Mexicali, Mexico

Since last post: 2.0 years
Last activity: 1.8 years
Posted on 07-02-16 11:39:57 AM Link | Quote
... what the frig?

Did you compare physical scans of the artwork to the ones on VGMdb, if any? Maybe there's an easily identifiable misprint version with this.

____________________
My Video Game Collection
Hiccup
Member
Level: 57


Posts: 669/772
EXP: 1474052
For next: 11876

Since: 05-19-09


Since last post: 101 days
Last activity: 2 days
Posted on 07-02-16 03:31:19 PM Link | Quote
Well, that's one way to leak a devkit.

____________________
NNID: MegaKoopa | External Signature
Nat
Random nobody
Level: 4


Posts: 2/3
EXP: 239
For next: 40

Since: 07-02-16


Since last post: 5.8 years
Last activity: 5.8 years
Posted on 07-02-16 03:46:00 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Foxhack
Did you compare physical scans of the artwork to the ones on VGMdb, if any? Maybe there's an easily identifiable misprint version with this.


I have, and it looks identical to me. The quality of the CD art - glossy and slightly embossed - is professional grade, so I don't suspect a bootleg. I don't see any obvious differences in the front or back covers either, though I could try to scan it in if you want. This release has no catalog number either, so there are no identifying marks to contrast with a standard copy.
devin

Yoshi
i'm mima irl
Level: 112


Posts: 3212/3519
EXP: 14918633
For next: 419572

Since: 04-29-08

Pronouns: any
From: FL

Since last post: 297 days
Last activity: 1 day
Posted on 07-02-16 04:01:22 PM (last edited by devin at 07-02-16 04:02:51 PM) Link | Quote
Looks like that's part of the same N64 kit mentioned in this thread...

Small runs of mispressed music CDs have definitely happened many times over the years - here's just one of several that Discogs lists. Given the OST was manufactured/published by Nintendo, it's probably the same scenario - i.e. someone just got sloppy when pressing the discs and used the wrong master by mistake. It probably just as likely could have been swapped with any other CD that Nintendo had been pressing at the time.

____________________
Photo by Luc Viatour
Nat
Random nobody
Level: 4


Posts: 3/3
EXP: 239
For next: 40

Since: 07-02-16


Since last post: 5.8 years
Last activity: 5.8 years
Posted on 07-04-16 02:20:21 AM Link | Quote
It makes sense that it would have come about from using the wrong master, but that kind of production happens in batches. I'd expect more instances of this to be out there, even if they caught it before they all went out.

Not that I'm complaining, but why the sticky? I didn't think this would get much attention.
divingkataetheweirdo

Bandit
TCRF Super Editor
Level: 57


Posts: 603/822
EXP: 1479672
For next: 6256

Since: 07-09-11


Since last post: 1.6 years
Last activity: 253 days
Posted on 07-04-16 02:52:56 AM (last edited by divingkataetheweirdo at 07-04-16 02:57:43 AM) Link | Quote
Probably to show how one can come across developer material in the most unusual ways possible and how easily this sort of thing can be overlooked. That stuff made it onto a publicly released disk by accident is something quite unusual, especially considering this is Nintendo, who only let these kits go out to approved developers.

After all, there are bits of source code included by accident in many games. We are missing loads of instances of this though, especially on newer console and computer games. And there are instances in games where people have found developer materials, such as Pikmin and Bloody Roar 4.

____________________
Gerry_MAN
Random nobody
Level: 2


Posts: 1/1
EXP: 41
For next: 5

Since: 07-11-17


Since last post: 4.8 years
Last activity: 4.8 years
Posted on 07-11-17 03:56:48 PM Link | Quote
Hi Nat,

I'm Reviving your old thread here....
I was actually just looking for a copy of this disc, and found your post.

Do you know of a way you could somehow forward me a link to the .ISO of this disc?
Not sure if that will work... was the image very large?

Let me know when you get a chance.
Cheers!
-Gerry
Next newer thread | Next older thread
Jul - The Cutting Room Floor - My Perfect Dark soundtrack CD has N64 devkit materials on it New poll - New thread - New reply


Rusted Logic
Acmlmboard - commit 47be4dc [2021-08-23]
©2000-2022 Acmlm, Xkeeper, Kaito Sinclaire, et al.

32 database queries, 2 query cache hits.
Query execution time:  0.123275 seconds
Script execution time:  0.012542 seconds
Total render time:  0.135817 seconds


TidyHTML vomit below
line 1 column 1 - Warning: missing <!DOCTYPE> declaration
line 119 column 11 - Warning: <form> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 118 column 10 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 120 column 11 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 120 column 119 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 124 column 16 - Warning: plain text isn't allowed in <tr> elements
line 120 column 11 - Info: <tr> previously mentioned
line 125 column 68 - Warning: missing </nobr> before </td>
line 141 column 68 - Warning: missing </nobr> before <tr>
line 147 column 35 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 147 column 50 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 148 column 37 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&id"
line 147 column 231 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
line 149 column 35 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 149 column 50 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 149 column 91 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
line 156 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 158 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 176 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 177 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 179 column 172 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&scrollTo"
line 183 column 649 - Warning: <img> attribute "]" lacks value
line 183 column 649 - Warning: <img> missing '>' for end of tag
line 197 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 199 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 217 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 218 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 225 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 227 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 245 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 246 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 251 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 253 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 271 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 272 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 279 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 281 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 299 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 300 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 302 column 713 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&name"
line 302 column 725 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&file"
line 302 column 740 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&topic"
line 302 column 751 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&forum"
line 304 column 1057 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&format"
line 307 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 309 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 327 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 328 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 335 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 337 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 355 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 356 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 363 column 9 - Warning: <div> isn't allowed in <table> elements
line 152 column 17 - Info: <table> previously mentioned
line 365 column 9 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 383 column 13 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 384 column 102 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&postid"
line 399 column 17 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 399 column 17 - Warning: discarding unexpected <table>
line 402 column 35 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 402 column 50 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 402 column 91 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
line 404 column 35 - Warning: missing <tr>
line 404 column 50 - Warning: missing </font> before </td>
line 405 column 37 - Warning: unescaped & or unknown entity "&id"
line 404 column 231 - Warning: missing </font> before </table>
line 406 column 17 - Warning: discarding unexpected </textarea>
line 406 column 28 - Warning: discarding unexpected </form>
line 406 column 35 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
line 406 column 43 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noembed>
line 406 column 53 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noscript>
line 406 column 64 - Warning: discarding unexpected </noembed>
line 406 column 74 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
line 406 column 82 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
line 406 column 90 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
line 408 column 9 - Warning: missing </font> before <table>
line 420 column 25 - Warning: discarding unexpected </font>
line 429 column 57 - Warning: discarding unexpected </font>
line 407 column 1 - Warning: missing </center>
line 120 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 125 column 19 - Warning: <td> attribute "width" has invalid value "120px"
line 125 column 93 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 141 column 19 - Warning: <td> attribute "width" has invalid value "120px"
line 141 column 98 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 148 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 148 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 148 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 161 column 21 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 161 column 62 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 161 column 111 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 161 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 172 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 202 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 202 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 202 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 202 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 203 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 213 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 222 column 241 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 222 column 241 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 230 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 230 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 230 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 230 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 241 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 256 column 21 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 256 column 62 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 256 column 111 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 256 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 267 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 274 column 291 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 274 column 291 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 283 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 284 column 23 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 284 column 64 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 284 column 113 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 284 column 163 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 285 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 295 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 312 column 21 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 312 column 62 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 312 column 111 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 312 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 323 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 339 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 340 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 340 column 63 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 340 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 340 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 341 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 351 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 360 column 731 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 368 column 21 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 368 column 62 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 368 column 111 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 368 column 161 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 369 column 11 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 379 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 395 column 407 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 395 column 407 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 405 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 405 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 405 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 414 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 419 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 399 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 402 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 218 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 246 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 272 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 300 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 328 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 356 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 384 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 155 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
Lobby your company to join the W3C: http://www.w3.org/Consortium

Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md