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Posted on 12-12-14 05:15:45 PM Link | Quote
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Re: Krystal and Galdon:

even in some of the videos Sabre uses Krystal's audio and GUI, meaning Krystal was finished first (which makes sense, since you play as krystal first) so those screenshots are probably from earlier, from before Sabre was finished enough to use.

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Posted on 12-14-14 01:21:52 AM (last edited by RLTD112095 at 12-14-14 01:22:12 AM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by 2Tie
I'm not sure if it was expressly stated, but me and FYeahDinosaurPlanet came to an agreement that the 1hr footage is earlier stuff. When it first shows Warlock Mountain the texturing and model is different than the later clips as well.








I agree with you completely. Compare Kyte's voice clips with those found in MPEG - they're quite different!
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Posted on 12-14-14 01:26:18 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by 2Tie
Huh. That's Ocean Force Point Temple in SFA, and due to the appearance of a RedEye in one of the promo images, I assumed that Oceanpoint in SFA was originally DP's Walled City; though, since that was in the Desert folder, maybe it was actually the Desert Force Point Temple? Thinking more about it, the weird oasis motif in Oceanpoint could also fit a desert theme...







640x480? *sigh* How I wish this had been released!
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Posted on 12-14-14 01:27:24 AM Link | Quote
Please don't double-post, thanks.

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Posted on 12-14-14 04:07:53 AM Link | Quote
Post #5182 · Sun 141214 000753
Originally posted by gilgamesh
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?pid=437602#437602

If you observe the houses surrounding the left. It looks like a map of Diddy Kong Racing (Greenwood Village?).




Somewhat off topic, I remember the official DKR player's guide book (I think it was?) had a map of Greenwood Village that showed some bananas behind a building, but there was an invisible wall blocking the way to actually get there...

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Posted on 12-26-14 11:31:18 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rena
Originally posted by gilgamesh
http://jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.php?pid=437602#437602

If you observe the houses surrounding the left. It looks like a map of Diddy Kong Racing (Greenwood Village?).




Somewhat off topic, I remember the official DKR player's guide book (I think it was?) had a map of Greenwood Village that showed some bananas behind a building, but there was an invisible wall blocking the way to actually get there...

I checked the prima guide and didn't see it, must be the official one then.
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Posted on 12-31-14 03:56:07 AM Link | Quote
have we found any files from the menu yet? I'm really curious because in this video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gxUq2w_fiA#t=7714

you can hear music on the menu that i've never heard before.

also something i noticed while perusing the old archived DP website is that, on this page, they use the same title image style as the menu in the game!

http://web.archive.org/web/20010124150100/http://www.rareware.com/recent/games/dino/dloads/
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Posted on 01-06-15 06:44:03 PM (last edited by koolaidman at 01-06-15 07:05:34 PM) Link | Quote
Just a heads up. For those wanting to still play this in Dolphin, there has been progress in getting the game to work in newer revisions. You can download one of the development builds on dolphin-emu.org (4.0-4941 as of writing). Dual core works perfectly fine for me now, and most if not all of the graphical glitches "exclusive" to playing this version are gone. Now all that remains are the graphical glitches that are common in this version as well as the final. The performance has also been improved tremendously, so I advise checking it out.

I recommend grabbing the Ishiiruka-Dolphin builds (or download them from directly off of MEGA from here). Most of the performance issues attributed to the game are caused by the great number of times the shader has to be compiled, which causes massive hitching in the frame rate even if your hardware is capable of running much better. This can be greatly reduced by using the Full Async Shader feature present in this build. This feature isn't present in the normal development versions of Dolphin, but it's a great feature to use in games especially like this.

It can cause more graphical problems, however. But it will make playing this as well as the final version MUCH better. I still highly recommend using it.

EDIT: Not sure if this was mentioned before, but if you finish the Ice Mountain part of the demo and return to the title screen to select Thorntail Hollow you start out with Tricky and the staff. While the opening cutscene when you first arrive at Thorntail Hollow still plays it doesn't seem like you can actually advance to the rest of that section in the demo normally because you already have the staff.
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Posted on 01-07-15 10:18:31 PM Link | Quote
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Uh, the download link for the game is broken in the OP, snagged that dolphin dev build wanting to finally get around to playing the demo, but uh, yeah...

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Posted on 01-08-15 05:30:34 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Phugolz
http://www.mediafire.com/download/46779m0jwr2teq7/Star_Fox_Adventures_E3_2002_prototype_(5-17-02).7z

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Posted on 01-18-15 04:51:28 PM Link | Quote
The picture below is from the 20th december '01.



Figured I'd point that out.
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Posted on 01-18-15 10:45:16 PM Link | Quote
hey yeah, nice catch, i never noticed that! creepy looking guy eeugh
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Posted on 01-21-15 06:26:11 PM Link | Quote
Hey guys, any news of a Dinosaur Planet 2000 demo rom dump?
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Posted on 01-21-15 06:29:49 PM Link | Quote
If there was, we would have posted it, obviously.

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Posted on 01-23-15 07:03:41 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by gilgamesh
E3 2001

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cafesantaria/704980046/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cafesantaria/704105447/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cafesantaria/704105555/

source: Christopher Brown

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cafesantaria/sets/72157600186780616


Notice the screen of Starfox Adventures in the background, in the top-right of the photo...



A different icon for Fox than the one in the screen primarily being photographed... One that I've seen before, and another I haven't.
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Posted on 01-23-15 12:14:28 PM Link | Quote
Notice also how it says "Fox Status" on the upper left; implying Krystal was still a playable character in this build perhaps? I also wonder which build this is, as I've never seen this exact HUD before. Very interesting!
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Posted on 01-24-15 12:54:13 AM (last edited by 2Tie at 01-29-15 12:46:46 PM) Link | Quote
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the one in the far right looks to be the parchment-background Fox icon which was among the assets ripped from the N64 files earlier in the thread;



As for the image itself, i've seen it years ago while looking through screenshots from an old IGN page on SFA:



The portrait of Fox and the "Fox Status" is removed as well as the second energy bar (for tricky, i assume) and adding the gamecube face buttons at a later point in time, leading to a few screenshots circulating that look like this:



Then the C-Stick is removed from the GUI, the Scarab counter becomes another value that hides when not needed, and the Energy bar is flipped into it's final look and direction.



Finally the X button is removed from the GUI, the quickspell is added to Y with an indicator, the energy bar's Staff GUI is added, and the health bar no longer resizes to show the current heart.



only changes i can tell between then and retail release is changing the health hearts to red, changing the maps/adding the utility GUI w/ d-pad function, and i'm not sure if the indicator above targeted enemies was added in this time or at some point before.


AND ANOTHER THING to add regarding the racing town map sections that were found earlier:
DP was originally a DKR adventure game hybrid

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Posted on 01-29-15 11:53:53 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BMF54123
If there was, we would have posted it, obviously.


I seriously wonder if we can somehow contact a key ex-Rare employee who worked during that timeframe and actually do find that.

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Posted on 01-29-15 07:32:40 PM (last edited by foxtribe at 01-29-15 08:45:51 PM) Link | Quote
from what i know, some people have contacted Rare, but nothing came of it. Apparently there was a demo cart but when rare employees last tried it, around '09, it didn't work, and that it was thrown out. Apparently, all the game's assets are on a computer at a Nintendo HQ somewhere. I've also heard, sometime in 2010, that a private collector somehow has DP (i have no idea in what form) and is waiting until its "safe" to share it, but there's nothing to back this up.

Maybe try contacting someone in cahoots with nintendo? nintendo is much more likely to leak games than Rare is so thats a good thing. I don't think Rare even even owns the rights to DP any more so your best bet would, again, be Nintendo.
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Posted on 01-29-15 10:35:40 PM (last edited by 2Tie at 01-29-15 10:36:23 PM) Link | Quote
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RE: rights to DP, the trademark expired over a decade ago;

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75479235&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch

Also, unlike Banjo-Kazooie and -Tooie's trademarks, these were filed by rare themselves, not nintendo.

also, i believe the ownership of Krystal's likeness (don't remember which, cat or fox) has been up in arms for a while too.

also, none of the individual Star Fox games have trademarks, only the Star Fox brand.

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line 783 column 35 - Warning: discarding unexpected </embed>
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line 783 column 82 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
line 783 column 90 - Warning: discarding unexpected </table>
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line 797 column 25 - Warning: discarding unexpected </font>
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line 765 column 362 - Warning: <div> anchor "joyeuse" already defined
line 773 column 1011 - Warning: <div> anchor "joyeuse" already defined
line 782 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 782 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 782 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 791 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 796 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 308 column 5665 - Warning: trimming empty <label>
line 776 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 205 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 239 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 273 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 275 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 299 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 332 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 366 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 398 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 430 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 456 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 483 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 513 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 539 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 565 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 567 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 591 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 631 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 657 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 707 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 709 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 735 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 763 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 371 warnings and 2 errors!

The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

About HTML Tidy: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5
Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
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Do you speak a language other than English, or a different variant of
English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md