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Posted on 03-22-13 05:27:40 AM (last edited by OKeijiDragon at 03-22-13 05:28:48 AM) Link | Quote
Last week I purchased a VHS cassette called Target: Get Into The Game. Apparently, this was a promo guide prepped by Target stores to showcase the then-upcoming PlayStation and Nintendo 64 games that year. In an era when simple, colorful games reigned supreme, it's nice seeing how games were... just games, period. 1998 was the greatest year for gaming ever.

Anyways, I'm in the process of ripping footage of certain games from this video tape. The tape contains promos of Crash Bandicoot 3, Spyro The Dragon, Ocarina of Time, and Superman 64. Among others that will be uploaded in this playlist soon.



Probably the most interesting piece of footage in this VHS is the Ocarina of Time promo. Among many other elements, Link has different voice samples in this footage! I suspect in this point in time, his voice was done by one single voice actress.

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A special mention should be made for Superman 64. It's a terrible game where "YOU. ARE. SUPERMAN." It's only fitting that it's promo should be just as bad; I guess even the marketing department had a hard time advertising this mess of a product.

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Does anyone have any request of games they want to see uploaded and ripped online?
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Posted on 03-22-13 06:17:13 PM Link | Quote
Nice, thanks for the uploads. Shame about the watermarks, though.

Would it be possible for you to rip the whole tapes?
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Posted on 03-22-13 09:31:42 PM (last edited by OKeijiDragon at 03-22-13 09:35:50 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by ICEknight
Shame about the watermarks, though. Would it be possible for you to rip the whole tapes?

I do have the entire rip available. I just wanted to upload the most interesting parts (OoT) first so people can appreciate and enjoy them individually. If more people want the whole tape uploaded, I'll be more than happy to give. In the meantime, I'll be working on other projects.
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Posted on 03-22-13 11:43:57 PM Link | Quote
Out of curiosity, what hardware are you using to capture this, and how? S-Video or Composite?

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Posted on 03-23-13 07:06:47 AM Link | Quote
That OoT video is a goldmine of rarities! I see Adult Link with the Fairy Ocarina, Young Link with the White Slingshot, shorter Kokiri sword, and Navi on B, and the old, red targeting box. I also see a small glitch in the first scene, where Link's pulled the sword. It looks like its clipped through the pedestal.
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Posted on 03-25-13 07:58:52 PM (last edited by ICEknight at 03-25-13 07:59:11 PM) Link | Quote
Originally posted by OKeijiDragon
I do have the entire rip available. I just wanted to upload the most interesting parts (OoT) first so people can appreciate and enjoy them individually. If more people want the whole tape uploaded, I'll be more than happy to give. In the meantime, I'll be working on other projects.
Well, I don't think anybody would not want to see the entire rip. =|

If it's already done as you say, perhaps you could just leave it uploading in Youtube while you work on other things? That would be very appreciated.
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Posted on 03-26-13 01:55:31 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Foxhack
Out of curiosity, what hardware are you using to capture this, and how? S-Video or Composite?

According to the post, it's VHS, so I doubt composite or s-video matters that much.
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Posted on 03-26-13 06:29:23 PM (last edited by Foxhack at 03-26-13 06:31:06 PM) Link | Quote
... yes it does, actually. I've captured stuff from VHS tapes via S-Video and there's a little bit less interference / blurring through it than with Composite. Of course, if the source material sucks (like EP tapes with Saturday morning cartoons, haha) then there won't be that much of a difference. VHS is a lossy format, unfortunately - but at least you can make things suck less with S-Video.

Heck, there's VHS decks with Component output, unbelievably.

I mostly want to know what hardware he's using so I can shop around.

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Posted on 03-26-13 08:33:03 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Foxhack
Heck, there's VHS decks with Component output, unbelievably.
Actually, this makes perfect sense. VHS tapes store the chroma using a lower carrier frequency than a standard video signal. The conversion from VHS to either S-video or composite requires the chroma to be resampled, potentially reducing quality. Component has more bandwidth than a VHS tape can ever possibly use, so it's guaranteed to lose no information. This is particularly important when you're making copies of a master tape.

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Component video might be overkill for a VHS tape, though.

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Posted on 03-29-13 10:14:29 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Aeonic Butterfly
That OoT video is a goldmine of rarities! I see Adult Link with the Fairy Ocarina, Young Link with the White Slingshot, shorter Kokiri sword, and Navi on B, and the old, red targeting box. I also see a small glitch in the first scene, where Link's pulled the sword. It looks like its clipped through the pedestal.


Not to mention the completely different voice actor, the different symbol in the forest temple, and it looked to me like the Skulltula's death animation was a little more erratic than in the final. Interesting indeed.

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Posted on 03-31-13 06:40:46 PM Link | Quote
Moreover, the Jump command actually made Link jump up (you can see that the player used it once in the video). That's particularly interesting, wonder why they removed that.
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Posted on 04-01-13 01:42:42 AM Link | Quote
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Originally posted by Aeonic Butterfly
That OoT video is a goldmine of rarities! I see Adult Link with the Fairy Ocarina, Young Link with the White Slingshot, shorter Kokiri sword, and Navi on B, and the old, red targeting box. I also see a small glitch in the first scene, where Link's pulled the sword. It looks like its clipped through the pedestal.
Navi is red, the lizards have different voices, and that spider bounced around for quite a while before it died.

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Posted on 04-01-13 03:31:22 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rena
Originally posted by Aeonic Butterfly
That OoT video is a goldmine of rarities! I see Adult Link with the Fairy Ocarina, Young Link with the White Slingshot, shorter Kokiri sword, and Navi on B, and the old, red targeting box. I also see a small glitch in the first scene, where Link's pulled the sword. It looks like its clipped through the pedestal.
Navi is red, the lizards have different voices, and that spider bounced around for quite a while before it died.


I was worrying for a moment that I was imagining that the lizards sounded different.

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Posted on 04-01-13 04:25:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sheeza
Moreover, the Jump command actually made Link jump up (you can see that the player used it once in the video). That's particularly interesting, wonder why they removed that.

Link already jumps automatically whenever it's needed, and with the best precision possible, so a Jump button would be just redundant.
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Posted on 04-02-13 07:42:56 AM Link | Quote
That's not a very worthy counter-point. One could easily say that the jump button makes automatic jumps redundant and there was no reason to add the latter at the loss of the former.

I understand and agree that it makes the game flow a bit more efficiently, but calling it out as redundant is misleading :/
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Posted on 04-02-13 05:50:48 PM Link | Quote
I say it's redundant because, at best, you'd be able to do with it exactly what the automatic jump does, and the game seems to be designed around those on-the-edge jumps.
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Posted on 04-03-13 04:51:00 AM Link | Quote
seems like the voices were all just temps (the lizard and all) before they got the final actors in there...not too uncommon of a practice when you need to time things specifically to events having voice acting, but in a game like this and especially with recorded footage it seems a bit unusual that they might do that. Could also just be that they really did decide to change the actors later in development. Interesting finds!
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line 532 column 112 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 543 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 613 column 22 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
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line 613 column 162 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 624 column 15 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 631 column 503 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 631 column 503 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 640 column 44 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 640 column 142 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 640 column 246 - Warning: <img> proprietary attribute value "absmiddle"
line 649 column 25 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 654 column 267 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
line 149 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 496 column 5037 - Warning: trimming empty <label>
line 634 column 17 - Warning: trimming empty <tr>
line 637 column 50 - Warning: trimming empty <font>
line 125 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 141 column 68 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 177 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 217 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 245 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 272 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 298 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 324 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 352 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 379 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 409 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 439 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 468 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 494 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 520 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 522 column 74 - Warning: <table> proprietary attribute "height"
line 548 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 575 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 603 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
line 629 column 27 - Warning: <nobr> is not approved by W3C
Info: Document content looks like HTML5
Info: No system identifier in emitted doctype
Tidy found 283 warnings and 0 errors!


The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.

For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.

You are recommended to use CSS to control line wrapping.
Use "white-space: nowrap" to inhibit wrapping in place
of inserting <NOBR>...</NOBR> into the markup.

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Bug reports and comments: https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/issues
Official mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htacg/
Latest HTML specification: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/
Validate your HTML documents: http://validator.w3.org/nu/
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English? Consider helping us to localize HTML Tidy. For details please see
https://github.com/htacg/tidy-html5/blob/master/README/LOCALIZE.md